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Obama came up with ObamaCare because he needed a throwaway applause line in a campaign speech
Hot Air ^ | 09/23/2013 | Allahpundit

Posted on 09/23/2013 10:34:01 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Soon-to-be-candidate Obama, then an Illinois senator, was thinking about turning down an invitation to speak at a big health care conference sponsored by the progressive group Families USA [in January 2007], when two aides, Robert Gibbs and Jon Favreau, hit on an idea that would make him appear more prepared and committed than he actually was at the moment.

Why not just announce his intention to pass universal health care by the end of his first term?…

“We needed something to say,” recalled one of the advisers involved in the discussion. “I can’t tell you how little thought was given to that thought other than it sounded good. So they just kind of hatched it on their own. It just happened. It wasn’t like a deep strategic conversation.”… I can’t quote much more due to fair use but you should read the rest to see how the pattern recurred during the 2008 campaign. Not until two months after he made the promise described above did he bother to get up to speed on health-care policy, and that was only because Hillary destroyed him over it at an SEIU candidate forum.

What’s striking about this story is how it mirrors the genesis of his half-assed “red line” on Syria. That was also the product of an idle remark that sounded good at the time on a subject that Obama obviously didn’t consider a high priority.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; healthcare; obama; obamacare; obamaspeech; redline

1 posted on 09/23/2013 10:34:01 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Well who ever thought there was MORE to it than that?


2 posted on 09/23/2013 10:37:31 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Rusty0604

Oh, so the takeover of our medical system hadn’t been planned for years? And Hillary’s push for it during the Clinton administration was all in my imagination?

Yeah, right.


3 posted on 09/23/2013 10:56:59 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Rusty0604

remember Clinton holding up that national healthcare card?


4 posted on 09/23/2013 11:00:09 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Rusty0604; All

The original article from which allahpundit is quoting appeared in Politico, written by Carrie Budoff Brown and Glenn Thrush. So not worth much, in my view. YMMV.


5 posted on 09/23/2013 11:03:05 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism-Lenin)
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To: LearsFool

“Not until two months after he made the promise described above did he bother to get up to speed on health-care policy, and that was only because Hillary destroyed him over it at an SEIU candidate forum.”

Read again.


6 posted on 09/23/2013 11:04:46 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: pluvmantelo

I think it shows him to be the empty suit that he is. Just saying whatever the voters want to hear to get elected.


7 posted on 09/23/2013 11:07:34 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

You lost me. You don’t really think universal healthcare was an Obama invention, do you? A neat-sounding idea-of-the-moment, that two months later was investigated further, and was later developed into the present monstrosity?


8 posted on 09/23/2013 11:12:34 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

bump


9 posted on 09/23/2013 11:14:29 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: LearsFool

According to what I read, it was added to his campaign rhetoric by his handlers because he was competing with Hillary and she was running on it. I don’t see anywhere that it claims to be his invention.


10 posted on 09/23/2013 11:17:11 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
I can’t tell you how little thought was given to that thought other than it sounded good.

That sums up the entire Democrat strategy on almost every issue.

It sounds good ... to the moochers that elect us.

11 posted on 09/23/2013 11:23:13 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Rusty0604

And before ya know it, POOF! A “throwaway applause line” morphs into the biggest industry takeover, government boondoggle, and liberty infringement in the nation’s history. /s

Please, FRiend, don’t be this gullible. Sure, Obama is kinda dumb. But this was planned long before we ever heard of the guy.

We all knew Hillary intended to carry out this plan if elected. Now Obama (or his handlers) thinks he can shrug it off with an “Oops, did I do that?”


12 posted on 09/23/2013 11:29:47 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Rusty0604

Perhaps. We know that absent the marionette strings he is capable of gaffes of all sorts. But I find it difficult to believe that, with healthcare sure to be a huge issue in the campaign, the issue had not been addressed by he and his handlers. Also this story wasn’t ferreted out by some intrepid reporters-it was fed to them by Obama’s people. It was put out for political ends. Thus it seems a bit naive to take it at face value.


13 posted on 09/23/2013 11:34:33 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism-Lenin)
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To: LearsFool

Oh, I know it was planned. If anything, maybe this is part of the Obama “I didn’t have anything to do with it” excuse like Rush says.


14 posted on 09/23/2013 11:35:47 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: pluvmantelo

Maybe this?
“People do not associate Obama with his agenda, and that’s because he’s permanently campaigning. He’s running against his own agenda, by design, on purpose. He’s running against what’s happening. He makes people think that he doesn’t like what’s happening and he’s trying to fix it when in fact everything that’s happening is precisely because he wants it to and has made it happen.”

Rush


15 posted on 09/23/2013 11:38:47 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Yup, you’re probably right.


16 posted on 09/23/2013 11:40:51 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Rusty0604

Maybe.


17 posted on 09/23/2013 11:41:01 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism-Lenin)
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To: Rusty0604
Oh, I know it was planned. If anything, maybe this is part of the Obama “I didn’t have anything to do with it” excuse like Rush says.

I kind of believe Obama really didn't have a plan... after all, when push came to shove, he just said "pass a health-care plan" and let Pelosi and Reid take over while he kicked back and took credit for the end result.

18 posted on 09/23/2013 11:45:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: Rusty0604

Except that I don’t think Obama knows or understands much. He bumbles and stumbles, and so we’re prone to underestimate him...when it’s not him doing all this, but those pulling his strings. So he just smiles and shrugs, and our attention is distracted.


19 posted on 09/23/2013 11:49:17 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: SMARTY

Jon Faverau the crappy director and even crappier actor?


20 posted on 09/23/2013 12:06:50 PM PDT by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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To: Rusty0604

What nonsense.

It was Hillarycare.

Obama’s ENTIRE AGENDA is Hillary’s agenda.

She lost, but her agenda went on. After all, what agenda did the guy bring with him? He had none - he and Hillary admitted many times their agenda was the same, which meant he adopted her agenda (since he didn’t exist before he ran).

Obama was “supposed” to be Hillary’s VP.

But things didn’t turn out as planned : )

So, he took her agenda. Think about it - political agendas are huge things, involving years of planning, kickbacks, promises and payoffs. Sometimes decades. Sometimes centuries.

Obama having an agenda of his own?

LOL


21 posted on 09/23/2013 12:13:43 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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