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Penn State to regain scholarships
ESPN ^ | September 24, 2013 | Josh Moyer

Posted on 09/24/2013 1:57:14 PM PDT by napscoordinator

The NCAA said Tuesday that it will reduce the unprecedented sanctions against Penn State's football program by gradually restoring scholarships starting next season. Officials did not rule out future modifications, such as reducing the four-year postseason ban.

The announcement comes 14 months after NCAA president Mark Emmert levied the historic penalties in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal. Penn State had faced a cap of 65 scholarships starting in 2014, but instead will have 75 scholarships in 2014, 80 in 2015 and the full allotment of 85 in 2016.

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TOPICS: Education; Sports
KEYWORDS: education; football; pennstate; pennsylvania; university
Put this right up there with the great work of Ted Cruz. We conservatives are having an incredibly great day. First the GOP is getting their just due from Ted and now a huge injustice to a fine institution is being rectified. God Bless the United States of America today! Justice is being served all over. Oh and Santorum for President 2016!
1 posted on 09/24/2013 1:57:14 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
a huge injustice to a fine institution is being rectified

Opinion will vary.

2 posted on 09/24/2013 2:00:41 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: napscoordinator

State Penn recovers.


3 posted on 09/24/2013 2:01:19 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: napscoordinator

I don’t know about “injustice to a fine institution”. Jerry Sandusky, Graham Spanier and who knows how many others were guilty as sin IMO. That institution still has a LONG way to go to reform itself.

It was however an injustice to lay the punishment on a bunch of kids who had nothing to do with any of it. Glad to see that at least will be rectified.


4 posted on 09/24/2013 2:01:36 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: napscoordinator
The Mann still supported by the institution formerly run by a noted Scholar of Wife Swapping Studies (and instigator of such brilliances as "Cunt Fest").

Happy Valley --> Gay Valley.

5 posted on 09/24/2013 2:04:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: napscoordinator

Yes, forget all about those unimportant boys who got buggered because of that football program. We need to get our priorities straight! Who cares about some boys having their lives wrecked...we’re talking about football g*d damnit!


6 posted on 09/24/2013 2:05:59 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

Nope. Didn’t forget that at all. The person responsible is in jail. Case closed!


7 posted on 09/24/2013 2:17:56 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Orangedog

This (imo - as I have stated repeatedly on this forum) was all scripted from the start, and bound to happen. Otherwise, there would be no George Mitchell involved.

Anyone who didn’t see this coming hasn’t been paying attention.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 2:34:33 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

This is mere face saving on the part of the NCAA and the BOT since those sanctions were to expire in 5 years anyway.

This way they phase them out over those 5 years and appear gratuitious without having to deal with the reason for them in the first place.


9 posted on 09/24/2013 3:15:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

The NCAA is facing a lawsuit they know they will lose. Blame the dead guy, peak oil, and global warming are hoaxes.


10 posted on 09/24/2013 3:27:52 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Uncle Chip

It’s still an acceptance of guilt (where none was warranted, imo). We need the Paterno/Lettermen lawsuit to get standing (ruling coming 10-29-13) to get to discovery.

Also, I still see no way (even though Kane insists it goes forward) that GS, GS, and TC see a courtroom. That would put Mike McQueary on the stand, and he would possibly be the worst witness in the history of justice.

Of course this was pre-arranged. It’s the only way for the b.o.t/erickson to get the alumni off their backs, and emmert didn’t write the sanctions anyway (erickson did) - what does he care? Anything that makes him look like less of a clown is a win for him.


11 posted on 09/24/2013 3:33:20 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: napscoordinator

“It’s OK to sodomize 10 year olds in your locker rooms. We’ll hammer you, then we’ll back off. After all, we regents like’m young, and male.”

Signed,

The NCAA


12 posted on 09/24/2013 3:39:17 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: napscoordinator

But it happened on their campus. Look at NCAA suspensions, almost all of them include the phrase “lack of institutional control” which is why they punish the school for things they didn’t know their athletes were doing. You can’t get much less institutional control than what Sandusky did. The suspension is at least as clean as every other suspension the NCAA has handed down.


13 posted on 09/24/2013 3:42:58 PM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: discostu

What exactly happened on Penn State’s campus? I don’t think you have a clue.

And how is that the fault of the football program?


14 posted on 09/24/2013 3:48:58 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Campus, property, training facility, take your pick. Splitting hairs on what the building was won’t unrape those children.

It was their “fault” because it was their building. Lack of institutional control. That’s the standard reason for schools getting punished by the NCAA.


15 posted on 09/24/2013 3:50:42 PM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: discostu

You do realize that V2 (Mike McQueary victim) came forward and said nothing happened that night in the shower, correct?

You do realize that the lead prosecutor in the js case went on national television 3 weeks ago and said that there was zero evidence that Joe Paterno was involved in any sort of cover-up, correct?

There was (during the trial) testimony that included acts on campus, but none that were ever made known to anyone at Penn State. However a vast majority of testimony focused on off campus abuse - mostly at js’ home.

You need to stop judging 2001 actions by Penn State officials using facts known in 2011. That’s not how it works.


16 posted on 09/24/2013 4:00:40 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

I never said anything about JoePa being involved in a cover up. Now you’re just grasping as BS. Bad things happened on their property, lack of institutional control.

Actually with the NCAA that’s EXACTLY how it works. Look at other recent school suspensions. It’s the NCAA way. It’s why the NCAA will probably be busted up soon. But within the NCAA the Penn State punishment is no different than any other.


17 posted on 09/24/2013 4:04:23 PM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: napscoordinator

FPS


18 posted on 09/24/2013 4:13:02 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: discostu
The NCAA needs to get outta Indianapolis, Indiana.

The NCAA are retards.

The State Penn is still guilty though. Especially Spanier.

19 posted on 09/24/2013 4:18:30 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

I agree! Free Penn State!!


20 posted on 09/24/2013 4:26:57 PM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: discostu

I’m just at a loss. You don’t seem to process facts very well. How can PSU act on something they knew nothing about?

Anyone - ANYONE on here that thinks that Joe Paterno or Tim Curley would do anything to protect a known pedophile is simply out to lunch.

They wouldn’t/couldn’t if you had a gun to their heads - demanding they do so.

Stop believing news stories of a paid liar’s report - bought and paid for by the PSU b.o.t. to justify their actions of 11/11. It’s not the truth. Period.


21 posted on 09/24/2013 4:36:07 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Orangedog

These jock-sniffing losers who want to look past the culpability of those other than Sandusky make me sick. They are the ones responsible for creating the atmosphere that allowed Sandusky, Paterno, and Spanier to get away with murder for so long. They care about their football games more than they do about children.


22 posted on 09/24/2013 5:02:57 PM PDT by American Guesser
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To: American Guesser
From Ivan Maisel today: NCAA president Mark Emmert can explain until he turns Nittany Blue that the NCAA eased its sanctions against Penn State as a reaction to the university's good behavior. And on its face, that's true. Penn State has begun implementing the change in athletic culture that the NCAA demanded when it threw the Nittany Lions under its jail for the Jerry Sandusky scandal. The decision to begin restoring football scholarships, Emmert said in a hastily called teleconference Tuesday, is "solely a recognition of the very good work that has been done by the Penn State leadership and their willingness to drive change." But the decision to begin restoring football scholarships to coach Bill O'Brien is a tacit acknowledgment that the NCAA sanctions constituted an overreaction that diminished the organization in the eyes of its member schools and the public. That sound coming from University Park, Pa., is a bell unringing.

Here's the meat and potatoes: Instead of three more years of granting 15 initial and 65 total scholarships, O'Brien will be allowed to restore five per year in each category. Penn State will return to the NCAA maximum of 25 initials in 2015-16, and a team limit of 85 the following year. The other sanctions -- the $60 million fine, four-year postseason ban and the five-year probation -- remain intact. Emmert said the decision followed the recommendation made by former U.S. Sen. George Mitchell, the independent athletics integrity monitor appointed by the NCAA to oversee a change in the Penn State athletic culture. Here's how much the case has shifted. In the press release of July 23, 2012 announcing the sanctions, the NCAA set forward no conditions by which it would consider easing the penalties. In fact, it said the exact opposite. After demanding that the university execute the recommendations set forward in the Freeh Report, the NCAA added, "(T)he university is subject to more severe penalties if it does not adhere to these requirements or violates NCAA rules in any sport during this (probationary) time period." Ah, the Freeh Report. Commissioned by the university, and leaning heavily on the integrity of former FBI director Louis Freeh, the report said authoritatively that university officials, including the late coach Joe Paterno, knew that Sandusky was a danger to children and did nothing to stop him, fearing bad publicity.

It turns out that key portions of the Freeh Report had the shelf life of the fruit that grows in Penn State's orchards. It turns out that many athletic administrators wondered why the NCAA decided that it had jurisdiction in the Penn State case, especially without bothering to launch an investigation. The NCAA, without the trust of its member institutions, has raised questions about its authority to govern those institutions. The Penn State case, the O'Bannon lawsuit, and the bollixing of the Miami case, which has gone on so long that even Inspector Javert said, "Enough already," all have eaten away at the foundation of the NCAA.

So a year has passed, and instead of threatening Penn State with more penalties, the NCAA is taking some of the sanctions away. In their zeal to pick up torches and pitchforks, Emmert and the presidents who run the NCAA not only damaged Penn State, but hurt their organization, too. Cooler heads needed to prevail, and there wasn't a cool head in the house.

By clutching to the robes of Sen. Mitchell, the NCAA bought some integrity. Mitchell declared earlier this month in a report that Penn State has executed significant change in its athletic culture. On Tuesday, Mitchell recommended that the penalties be modified "to the extent that [the NCAA] deemed appropriate." He called it "positive change for a positive action."

It would have been simpler to do it right the first time.

23 posted on 09/24/2013 6:00:53 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: napscoordinator
Case closed!

Damn skippy! Screw the systemic system of enabling and abuse that allowed all that to happen! We gots us some football to watch! Yeeee Haaaaa!

24 posted on 09/24/2013 6:10:48 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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Um...that didn’t happen. Sorry to ruin your dream.

Like Pesci said in My Cousin Vinny: “It’s ok. You can say it. They know.”


25 posted on 09/24/2013 6:26:30 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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You capitalist haters are all the same. Football is a huge success and is very American...sorry if that disturbs you. I know being pro-American is not in style right now.


26 posted on 09/24/2013 6:34:17 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: napscoordinator

Hopefully, all those receiving scholarships will be over the age of 18, otherwise they’re just meat for the grinder.


27 posted on 09/24/2013 6:38:01 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Oh Lord really. Long live Penn State. Thankfully the school will be there long after you and I are gone. God bless!


28 posted on 09/24/2013 6:40:11 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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Yes, God bless.

The victims.

29 posted on 09/24/2013 6:42:20 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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You’re reduced to pedo-jokes? Facts don’t matter to the uninformed.

Show me the evidence (not opinion from the OAG or liars like freeh) that PSU was IN ANY WAY responsible for any of this. Let’s see it. Time to pony up.

Good luck.


30 posted on 09/24/2013 6:45:36 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Uncle Chip; All
Blehar nails this - even has a copy of the "amended" consent decree:

second mile sandusky scandel

31 posted on 09/24/2013 9:12:58 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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The things people will excuse and try to sweep under the rug just so they can have their bread and circuses. Please, go ahead and wave your penn state pennant. Hell, go get a jersey while you’re at it. It helps identify the pro-child molester crowd.


32 posted on 09/25/2013 3:57:31 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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You are an idiot. You know nothing about what you are posting.
Go back to DU where you belong and where they bloviate false accusations without evidence.


33 posted on 09/25/2013 4:09:00 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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You capitalist haters are all the same.

So being anti homosexual child molestation is now tied to hating capitalism. Just. Damn. How about we just go ahead and change the penn state mascot to the pedobear. Can't wait to see him wearing a penn state jersey!


34 posted on 09/25/2013 4:09:56 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Uncle Chip

I wondered when I would get the old “go back to DU!” chestnut tossed at me again. I figured it would be for being against big, intrusive government but I never thought it would be for being anti homosexual child molestation. Maybe if sandusky would have tried to marry the little boys he buggered and penn state covered up the gay marriage, then you guys wouldn’t make excuses for it.


35 posted on 09/25/2013 4:21:05 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

More pedo jokes and still no evidence. Go figure...


36 posted on 09/25/2013 4:47:29 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Orangedog

This board is for those with informed opinions. You clearly missed the “informed” part.

Perhaps you would be happy if the entire Sandusky family, wife, children, cousins, gardeners, mechanics, hairdressers, et al, were thrown in prison for the crimes of one man — not one of which occurred on Penn State campus by the way.

We don’t live where you live — this is America.


37 posted on 09/25/2013 4:51:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: FlJoePa

That’s right. When you can’t defend the indefensible, start with the lawyer talk. If changing the penn state mascot to the pedobear is too obvious, maybe they could change it to “tickle me elmo” to make it a little more ambiguous.


38 posted on 09/25/2013 5:07:00 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Uncle Chip
Oh, I get it! "Informed" means it's okay to bugger little boys for years and take part in a cover up but only when it happens in a college football program. As far as the family of the child molester and the families of the people who helped protect him...nice straw man building you did there! And trying to invoke partiotism with "this is america." Cute.

Have fun cheering for the penn state pedobears this season.

39 posted on 09/25/2013 5:18:14 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

No you don’t get it. You’re hopeless. Just stuck on stupid.


40 posted on 09/25/2013 5:24:22 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Oh I get it alright. When there’s football involved it’s okay to partake in and help cover up the homosexual molestation of boys. From what I’m readimg here I guess anyone against that hates america and capitalism. Please...continue. Maybe we can figure out if it’s okay to diddle kids like that in any college football organization or if it’s only okay at penn state.


41 posted on 09/25/2013 5:36:47 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: FlJoePa

You’re not understanding the situation. The NCAA regularly punishes schools for bad behavior by their athletes that the NCAA even admits in the punishment announcement they didn’t know about and couldn’t know about. That’s why I keep putting the phrase “lack of institutional control” in posts, that’s the NCAA’s reasoning, that’s them saying they don’t care if you could have known you SHOULD have done a better job running your school to not have those type of people around.


42 posted on 09/25/2013 8:01:40 AM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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The NCAA regularly punishes schools for bad behavior by their athletes

So then which athlete's bad behaviour were they punishing here???

43 posted on 09/25/2013 8:35:17 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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For Penn State they’re punishing for bad behavior on school property. It’s the same concept, bad stuff happened and the NCAA doesn’t care if the school could have stopped it, they lacked the institutional control and didn’t stop it.


44 posted on 09/25/2013 8:42:47 AM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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For Penn State they’re punishing for bad behavior on school property.

There is no such thing. If they did that then there would be sanctions against every university across the country because bad things happen on every campus on a regular basis.

Furthermore none of the Sandusky incidents took place on PSU property, being that he was acquitted of the McQueary incident.

45 posted on 09/25/2013 8:51:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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But there is. If the bad stuff has even the vaguest connection to the sports program, which this did, the NCAA will come down on them.

What you really need to look at is NCAA suspensions for players getting “off field benefits”, like USC and Ohio. Frequently they don’t get “caught” until after they’re out of the school, and the investigation even points out that no school official was involved, knew, or could have known, and the school (including current students that weren’t even there) still gets punished. It probably isn’t fair, but it’s how the NCAA works, and when you compare the Penn State punishment with those it’s right in line, it follows the exact same logic and structure. You can make the case that they’re all bad suspensions and shouldn’t happen, but the NCAA is a voluntary membership organization, by remaining in it the schools are choosing to be held to these standards and make themselves subject to these punishments.


46 posted on 09/25/2013 9:02:04 AM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Uncle Chip

For the lynching of Joe Paterno’s reputation, Penn State is dead to me.

Go, Owls.


47 posted on 09/25/2013 9:03:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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