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Pope says migrants not 'pawns on chessboard of humanity'
Fox News ^ | September 24, 2013 | AFP

Posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:55 AM PDT by re_nortex

VATICAN CITY (AFP) – Pope Francis on Tuesday called on countries to protect migrants, condemning the treatment of refugees as mere "pawns on the chessboard of humanity".

Countries should cooperate on "the broad adoption of policies and rules aimed at protecting and promoting the human person", he said in a message for the World Day of Migrants and Refugees.

"Migrants and refugees are not pawns on the chessboard of humanity," he said in the message titled "Towards a Better World".

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: catholic; francis; illegals; migrants; pope; tencommandments; vatican
In the message, the pontiff also urged government leaders to "confront socioeconomic imbalances and an unregulated globalisation, which are among some of the causes of migration movements in which individuals are more victims than protagonists."

As I carefully analyze the Holy Father's words, he at no point expresses or even remotely implies that illegal migration is acceptable. Of course, the lamestream media will twist his statements to suit their leftist diversity agenda. At least two of the Ten Commandments make it clear that illegal immigration is a sin against Almighty God: "Thou shalt not steal" and "Thou shalt not covet". Illegals commit both of these sins when they invade another country.

1 posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:55 AM PDT by re_nortex
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To: re_nortex
More like checkerboard of humanity.
2 posted on 09/25/2013 10:36:23 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: lbryce
Furthermore, as I again consider his words, the Pope was referring specifically to legitimate political refugees fleeing totalitarian regimes. The Jews leaving Nazi Germany were such an example. At no point was the Holy Father giving any form of cover to illegal aliens violating a nation's sovereignty.
3 posted on 09/25/2013 10:41:33 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex
"situations of extreme poverty or persecution... millions of persons choose to migrate."

Millions choose? I don't feel comforted, it sounds like the same old liberal/Catholic/democrat/Kennedy message.

4 posted on 09/25/2013 11:07:38 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: re_nortex

Correct.

They are either lawful and welcome, or lawbreakers which the Bible tells us must be held to account.

They are not pawns.

But they may be criminals subject to incarceration or deportation. With humanity.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 11:07:43 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Ted Cruz for President!)
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To: re_nortex
Hey! Francis!

Mexico is a far wealthier country than the United States, it's just that all the wealth is owned by a few families.

Talk to the Mexican oligarchs before you start pointing fingers at us.

6 posted on 09/25/2013 11:11:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: re_nortex
Markomalley pointed this out to me:

"[Migrants' home and destination countries] should be accompanied by adequate international norms able to coordinate different legislative systems with a view to safeguarding the needs and rights of individual migrants and their families, and at the same time, those of the host countries” (Caritas in Veritate, 62).

Note that he's talking about protecting the needs and rights of the host country.

It must also be emphasized that such cooperation [between home and destination countries] begins with the efforts of each country to create better economic and social conditions at home, so that emigration will not be the only option left for those who seek peace, justice, security and full respect of their human dignity. The creation of opportunities for employment in the local economies will also avoid the separation of families and ensure that individuals and groups enjoy conditions of stability and serenity."

Note the bit there about fixing the problems in the home countries, thus eliminating the perceived need to emigrate for financial reasons.

Thought the above might be of interest to y’all.

7 posted on 09/25/2013 11:15:06 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Ay, Jalisco, Jalisco, Jalisco.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Note that he's talking about protecting the needs and rights of the host country.

Thank you for making this clear since it's essential to grasping the larger context to which the Pope was referring. The liberal media is trying to portray the Pontiff as something he's not, failing to understand that he respects the rule of law and the importance of national sovereignty. Just as did Christ, the Pope likewise does not bend to tolerate those who disobey the unalterable Law of Almighty God. The Ten Commandments are not merely suggestions.

8 posted on 09/25/2013 11:23:23 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex

More verbal gymnastics by others when this Pope speaks. Sigh.

For better or worse, and it is increasingly clear that this is for the worst, people are compelled to ‘explain’ what this Pope said. Once in a great while, this may be necessary, but when it happens all the time ... there is most likely a problem NOT with his being misunderstood, but rather that he says what he means.

I think we need to see him in the context of his being a South American Jesuit who (probably) cut his teeth on Liberation Theology.


9 posted on 09/25/2013 11:23:26 AM PDT by stisidore (MM, let's see here)
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To: re_nortex

so why does every Roman Catholic pope use them that way??


10 posted on 09/25/2013 11:31:40 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: stisidore; Mrs. Don-o; E. Pluribus Unum; ansel12
More verbal gymnastics by others when this Pope speaks. Sigh.

I respectfully differ on this point and those of some others in this thread, whom I have pinged following the tradition of FR courtesy. See the post from Mrs. Don-o that provides the complete background context on the Pope's statement.

It's post #7 that makes it all quite clear.

11 posted on 09/25/2013 11:32:13 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Wuli
so why does every Roman Catholic pope use them that way??

Maybe I'm a bit dense (and that's always a possibility) but I don't follow the point. Please clarify.

12 posted on 09/25/2013 11:34:05 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex

My post 4 is clear about what I quoted from the article and my response to it.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 11:37:40 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: re_nortex

” Of course, the lamestream media will twist his statements to suit their leftist diversity agenda.”

Well, of course they will. All part of the narrative. The are two things they won’t ever mention.

First, here is a link to his actual address:

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/09/24/popes_message_for_word_day_of_migrants_and_refugees_is_released/en1-731252

The first extract that won’t ever be mentioned:

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Pope Benedict XVI sketched the parameters of such policies, stating that they “should set out from close collaboration between the migrants’ countries of origin and their countries of destination; they should be accompanied by adequate international norms able to coordinate different legislative systems with a view to safeguarding the needs and rights of individual migrants and their families, and at the same time, those of the host countries” (Caritas in Veritate, 62).

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Note the last little bit: “...with a view to safeguarding the needs and rights...of the host countries.”

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The second quote:

It must also be emphasized that such cooperation begins with the efforts of each country to create better economic and social conditions at home, so that emigration will not be the only option left for those who seek peace, justice, security and full respect of their human dignity. The creation of opportunities for employment in the local economies will also avoid the separation of families and ensure that individuals and groups enjoy conditions of stability and serenity.

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Note the bit there about fixing the problems in the home countries, thus eliminating the perceived need to emigrate for financial reasons.

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I wonder why they don’t mention those little items? /sarc


14 posted on 09/25/2013 11:45:01 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
Note the last little bit: “...with a view to safeguarding the needs and rights...of the host countries.”

That's the critical part of the Pope's address which will be oh-so-eagerly dismissed by the lamestreamers in the liberal media complex. Moreover. I think when the Pontiff used the phrase, "pawns on chessboard of humanity", he was referring to the leftists who use migrants to achieve their aims of destroying the host countries.

I'm not Catholic but I have great respect for Pope Francis. I believe he is articulating God's Eternal Word and is helping to advance Conservatism. After all, Christianity and Conservatism are allies in the battle against evil.

15 posted on 09/25/2013 11:58:06 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex

so why does every Roman Catholic pope use them that way??

as usual, as all his predecessors have done, he speaks in euphemisms and not plain talk, knowingly providing support for actions - illegal immigration - he has, via his euphemistic way of speaking given himsself “plausible deniability” of having actually said

because Roman Catholic Popes ONLY speak euphemestically on many important issues, and do not speak plainly concerning actual acts and actual examples of what they mean, leaving them for “interpretation” of what they mean in a real world sense

there meyhod of speaking in public on such matters makes them, to me, as lacking moral authority to speak in such matters

in teaching, Jesus often used parables and symbolizm, but to the public he most often spoke plainly and directly, mensing words with no one and without being theological

the popes are always political even when they are pretending not to be

in the U.S. situation, what are the cultures of the home countries of MOST illegal immigrants im the U.S.? Predominately Catholic cultures; yet this pope, like his predecessors goes blaming the world. I suggest he reserve his words for the need for reform to his own countries and remove the tree from their eye, the eye of his people and his church, before casting stones at the world and “globalization”.

the nations that provided the opportuntity for investment and work are not the problem as to why other nations failed to do that - that problem is internal to each nation and its own history

most illegal immigrants are fleeing neither political tyranny at home or lack of opportunity at home; they just think they have some natural right to go where an opportunity is better than where they are (and certainly where government bennies are better) and to hell with the legal aystem, the legal citizens and the rights of the legal citizens to determine the course of THEIR nation.

This pope IS defending what he refuses to say he is not defending, in plain language, and he knows it.


16 posted on 09/25/2013 11:58:38 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: re_nortex

The Pope did not have to use word “illegal” in front of migrant. Of course that is what he meant. There is no controversy over legal migration. The issue being debated is illegal immigration. So that is what he meant. To claim otherwise is absurd.

The Pope increasingly exposes his liberal leanings. He’s a liberal.


17 posted on 09/25/2013 11:59:35 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: re_nortex

so why does every Roman Catholic pope use them that way??

PAWNS


18 posted on 09/25/2013 12:04:09 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: plain talk
The Pope increasingly exposes his liberal leanings. He’s a liberal.

Based upon my readings here on Free Republic, I've come to think otherwise. For example, this thread, POPE EXCOMMUNICATES PRIEST FOR SUPPORTING GAY MARRIAGE, FEMALE PRIESTS, is but one indicator that the Pontiff is taking a firm, no-nonsense stand against liberalism.

19 posted on 09/25/2013 12:06:47 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex

Come on, guys! 18 responses and no Mongo? First thing I thought of.


20 posted on 09/25/2013 12:13:15 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Wuli; markomalley
As I interpret it, the Pope was actually attacking liberals (”globalists”) when referring to “pawns on the chessboard of humanity”. For it is that crowd responsible for using those people as mere pawns. It certainly is not Conservatives.

As I see it, he was actually making an unmistakable defense for national sovereignty and the rights of the host countries. FReeper stalwart markomalley has a link to the unedited statement in post #14.

21 posted on 09/25/2013 12:14:57 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex
I remember a black congresswoman once asserting, The Republican presidential campaign is based on racism, because it's all code words: they say "drugs" but they mean "black", they say "welfare" but they mean "black," they say "crime" but they mean "black."

What rubbish. I dunno. That's what I think of when people insist the Pope "doesn't have to 'say' illegal immigration to 'mean' illegal immigration." It's like people saying "You don't have to 'say' nigger to 'mean' nigger --- because we know you're a racist, and you were thinking nigger, ya racist!"

I'm so weary of that.

22 posted on 09/25/2013 1:16:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What unites us all, of any race, gender, or religion, is that we all believe we are above average.)
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