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‘Jack the Ripper’ as we know him never existed: researcher
TORONTO SUN ^ | September 25, 2013 | QMI AGENCY

Posted on 09/25/2013 5:18:27 PM PDT by rickmichaels

After 125 years, "Jack the Ripper" has apparently been debunked.

Former murder investigator Trevor Marriott spent 11 years pouring over Scotland Yard files and said he learned that the legend of Jack the Ripper as we know it is wrong, Britain's Daily Express reports.

He also said he's figured out who the real Whitechapel killer might be.

Marriott concluded that Central News Agency journalist Thomas Bulling reportedly coined “Jack the Ripper” and sent police a letter from “him” 1888.

In Victorian-era London, five prostitutes' murders were supposedly committed by Jack the Ripper, a rich, educated man -- possibly a doctor -- who legend has it removed organs from the bodies of his victims.

The story has been told in many books and movies over the years, including 2001’s From Hell, which starred Johnny Depp as Jack.

Marriott, who has written several books on the subject and is currently on a U.K. speaking tour, said these works are to partially to blame for popularizing an inaccurate conception of who “Jack” was.

“You have to ask yourself if ‘Jack’ is an urban myth. Around 80% of the books about him have a picture of a chap on the front stalking the streets of London in a long black cape and a top hat,” Marriott told the Express.

“They were the clothes of an upper class, wealthy man. But back in 1888 if someone dressed like that had actually walked around Whitechapel in the dead of night they wouldn’t have lasted five minutes."

So who is the real killer?

Marriott said some of the murders were likely committed by Carl Feigenbaum, a German merchant seaman who was docked at Whitechapel during the killings and executed at age 54 for a Ripper-style murder in New York in 1896


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: carlfeigenbaum; dukeofclarence; godsgravesglyphs; jacktheripper; thomasbulling; trevormarriott; unitedkingdom
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To: free-in-nyc

I always thought “Jack” might be a composite of several criminals plus artistic license.


21 posted on 09/25/2013 8:28:49 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: free-in-nyc
No, I agree with you about that. I ordinarily consider it stupid to correct an otherwise comprehensible post with minor grammatical errors or spelling mistakes.

But there are three exceptions

  1. When it's somebody's blog or published material. I mean, seriously. Come on! Especially a professional writer.
  2. When the person himself has opened this can of worms by correcting someone else, he becomes fair game and
  3. Use of "I could care less." That one, which means EXACTLY the opposite of the correct idiom "I couldn't care less," just drives me (no NOT literally) insane with grammar-rage.

22 posted on 09/25/2013 8:42:08 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: FredZarguna

Thanks for the reassurance! And by the way, I like your home page - great selection of quotations and images.


23 posted on 09/25/2013 9:02:20 PM PDT by free-in-nyc (Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
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To: GeronL

It is certainly interesting that “Jack” proved so profitable for the newspapers of the time.


24 posted on 09/25/2013 9:03:48 PM PDT by free-in-nyc (Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
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To: free-in-nyc

Very true


25 posted on 09/25/2013 9:04:56 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: a fool in paradise; rickmichaels; Bender2; Daffynition; JoeProBono; Revolting cat!
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26 posted on 09/25/2013 9:13:26 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You need to ‘pour’ over it some more.


27 posted on 09/25/2013 9:41:50 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism-Lenin)
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To: rickmichaels

A thousand writers with a thousand ‘theories.’ Take your pick; no one knows for certain.


28 posted on 09/26/2013 2:16:21 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: rickmichaels

Depp played a Scotland Yard detective in the movie. The writer dropped the ball on that.

“Jack the Ripper” was coined by a newspaperman in a phony letter. However, there was another letter sent to the police with one of the kidneys from a victim.

The analysis of the victims showed common threads such as surgical skill in removing organs and that they were removed by a left-handed individual.

The White Chapel killer did exist. However, the identity has never been confirmed. I suspect it was either a butcher, a veteranarian or a medical school trainee/doctor, or some other person of training and experience with scalpal like instruments.


29 posted on 09/26/2013 9:04:52 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: rickmichaels

Depp wasn’t Jack in From Hell, Ian Holm was Jack.


30 posted on 09/26/2013 9:07:53 AM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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Thanks rickmichaels. ***SPOILER ALERT***
Marriott said some of the murders were likely committed by Carl Feigenbaum, a German merchant seaman who was docked at Whitechapel during the killings and executed at age 54 for a Ripper-style murder in New York in 1896...

31 posted on 10/05/2013 7:33:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: donmeaker; carenot; rickmichaels; ought-six; Darteaus94025; colorado tanker; Bender2; ...
In this book, Patricia Cornwell had DNA tests done on the envelope flap of a letter delivered to Scotland Yard, and handwriting analysis, to show who the killer was.

“Portrait Of A Killer Jack The Ripper — Case Closed” by Patricia Cornwell

http://www.amazon.com/Portrait-Of-Killer-Ripper-Berkley/dp/0425192733/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1382387576&sr=8-9&keywords=jack+the+ripper

“Cornwell combines the rigorous discipline of twenty-first century police investigation with forensic techniques undreamed of during the late Victorian era to solve one of the most infamous and difficult serial murder cases in history. Drawing on unparalleled access to original Ripper evidence, documents, and records, as well as archival, academic, and law-enforcement resources, FBI profilers, and top forensic scientists, Cornwell reveals that Jack the Ripper was none other than a respected painter of his day, an artist now collected by some of the world’s finest museums: Walter Richard Sickert...

Adding layer after layer of circumstantial evidence to the physical evidence discovered by modern forensic science and expert minds, Cornwell shows that Sickert, who died peacefully in his bed in 1942, at the age of 81, was not only one of Great Britain’s greatest painters but also a serial killer ...

She exposes Sickert as the author of the infamous Ripper letters that were written to the Metropolitan Police and the press. Her detailed analysis of his paintings shows that his art continually depicted his horrific mutilation of his victims ...

a year-long battery of more than 100 DNA tests—on samples drawn by Cornwell’s forensics team in September 2001 from original Ripper letters and Sickert documents — yielded the first shadows of the 75- to 114 year-old genetic evidence ...”

32 posted on 10/21/2013 5:07:07 PM PDT by exodus
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To: cva66snipe

Tag!


33 posted on 10/21/2013 5:22:39 PM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus

Fascinating...


34 posted on 10/21/2013 7:15:03 PM PDT by free-in-nyc (Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
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To: exodus

Thanks exodus.


35 posted on 10/21/2013 7:40:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: exodus

That book has been trashed by so many knowledgeable critics and Ripperologists that I’ve never been able to bring myself to buy it.


36 posted on 10/21/2013 9:34:05 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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