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What About Us Retirees ?
self ^ | September 26, 2013 | knarf

Posted on 09/26/2013 6:29:37 AM PDT by knarf

With all the obamascare going on, I wonder about my situation as a retiree ...


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Reference
KEYWORDS: insurance; obamacare; retiree
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I get less than a thou for SS and out of THAT, they take $104.00 for medicare, and an additional $38.00 for the drug suppliment which I bought privately and is taken out automatically

Cheap enough for one old codger, but it doesn't leave much to play with ( we're not cold in the winter, we're fed and the car stays paid for .. etc.) .. but;

I've never read anything here, nor heard anything on the radio about us SS recipients.

Will obamascare force US to pay more than what we're paying now?

I really can't afford any glitch in "the system" especially if it costs more money.

1 posted on 09/26/2013 6:29:38 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

Expect your Medicare premium to rise.


2 posted on 09/26/2013 6:31:27 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: knarf
Go Galt.

Hunker in the Bunker.

3 posted on 09/26/2013 6:31:29 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: knarf

Death panels for you old chap. You have lost your usefulness as a worker bee.


4 posted on 09/26/2013 6:32:29 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: knarf

Well if you have a major health issue expect a “death panel” to decide your fate...


5 posted on 09/26/2013 6:33:46 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: knarf

You have become a drain on the system, the Proof of Concept stated that anyone outside the age range of 19-40 was a drain and should get the least care.


6 posted on 09/26/2013 6:35:18 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: dpetty121263

Anybody with adequate savings will be ok.


7 posted on 09/26/2013 6:35:36 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: knarf

I just got word on our Medigap policy (United Healthcare through AARP). The price has not gone up but the out of pocket has risen in all catagories — higher co-pays, higher minimums, less coverage. No out of network coverage and no coverage in certain counties in my state. Think auto accidents. Am I going to have to have a tattoo that says “ship me to Milwaukee County” in case of emergency?

Furthermore, I don’t even have a list of who is in network and who is no in network. Makes it hard to plan.


8 posted on 09/26/2013 6:38:12 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MrChips; knarf
Expect your Medicare premium to rise.

And, your level of care to go down.

With more and more docs dropping Medicare, who/what will be left?

9 posted on 09/26/2013 6:38:13 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: dpetty121263

I don’t know about the rest of us “seasoned citizens” but a close friend who is a few years older than me is facing another problem caused by “ObamaCare”.

She moved into this area in 1981 and has had the same doctor ever since. That is until the end of next month. Because of “ObamaCare” he is closing his doors and leaving the medical practice entirely.

So, at age 72 she has to find a new doctor amid all other issues that “ObamaCare” is causing.


10 posted on 09/26/2013 6:38:16 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: knarf

i can’t state specifics ‘cause i didn’t
read the article, but i did recently see
an article headline stating that
Medicare recipients costs will go up, too.

not good news. what to do? GET MAD and
get loud!


11 posted on 09/26/2013 6:38:36 AM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: knarf
Experimentation sets you free.

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12 posted on 09/26/2013 6:38:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: knarf

SSI and Medicare/Medicaid are essentially socialism

The House should have sent a budget defunding them as well


13 posted on 09/26/2013 6:38:56 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: knarf

well look bud, you are partially responsible for this mess.

do what you can to impact it


14 posted on 09/26/2013 6:40:51 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: knarf
Honestly, I can not tell you how much you will pay.

Though, I can imagine you won't receive much in the way of care anymore no matter what you pay.

15 posted on 09/26/2013 6:41:17 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: knarf

I live part time in an over 55 joint in bad ol Broward county Florida.

I had to take early SS...didnt want to but circumstances were forced on me. I am concerned as you are because at our age we have few choices.

Having said that Im more concerned with the HEALTH of my country, its future and the well being of the younger generation.

The barkeep in one of the saloons I frequent has a masters in something and that is the best job she can find now.

I know guys with families in their 40s that are scared to death about losing their jobs/health ins.

Sad days all around folks.


16 posted on 09/26/2013 6:43:29 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: knarf

With respect for your situation, I too am retired now. However, I am more concerned about what my grand daughters will face under the aftermath of this evil tyrant. It consumes me in my dreams.


17 posted on 09/26/2013 6:44:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: gop4lyf

I’m 59 and ever since my youngest left home my attitude has been to agree with the Apostle Paul: For me to die is gain.

I have not had a physical since my 30’s and other than getting my shoulder fixed and trips to the chyropractor at $25 each. I don’t have much use for health care.

If I get something serious, I’ll die. Big deal. It happens.


18 posted on 09/26/2013 6:44:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: MrChips

obamacare is not for people who worked their lives and now can’t find a job because of their age and have started collecting social security.
It is for people who don’t work, whine a lot about White privilege, and vote democrat.
All others pay through the nose.


19 posted on 09/26/2013 6:44:53 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Nip
You will see more and more Doctors quiting...as Obamacare will flood them with clients...and the Government will not pay them what it costs...so they will just quit...let alone the lawyers are still free to sue them at every corner....our standard of care is going to drop dramatically and fast....government run healthcare is what they voted for and it is what they will get....think the Post Office....terrible
20 posted on 09/26/2013 6:45:35 AM PDT by Youngman542012
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To: riri

Now everyone understands why the rush to get guns out of the hands of the electorate. Voting by trigger finger has been made moot.


21 posted on 09/26/2013 6:46:06 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Wolfie
Savings?

What's that ... a new dance ?


I own my home .. no mortgage, just taxes (not much on the scale of things)

We eat Asian ... lots of rice, veggies and a little meat (basically .. of COURSE there's other stuff ... SHE may be Asian but I'M by God a sugar lovin' AMERICAN .. )

We don't drive much .. church .. shopping .. visiting the kids .. all local

So unless something tragic happens ... we survive comfortably


Most importantly ... we tithe.


We just can't have any change in the demands on us.

I refuse to get food stamps which I'm sure we'd qualify for and so far, no LIHEAP fuel gift from the gummint. (I burn fuel oil supplimented with about 6 cords of firewood each winter)

22 posted on 09/26/2013 6:46:42 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Wolfie
Anybody with adequate savings will be ok.

Short term sure - long term not so much. Helicopter Ben and his successor are destroying the US dollar and all your savings. This is by design - IMHO someday in the not too distant future (after all the IRA and 401K have lost their tax deferred status) - this socialists wealth distribution will have driven the middle class to extinction, and EVERYONE still here will be dependent on uncle Sam. The "wealthy" will have moved off shore to escape what is happening.


23 posted on 09/26/2013 6:47:50 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: dpetty121263

I’m a retired fed. I have no idea how this abomination is going to affect me. I haven’t received any paperwork fom OPM yet. I’ll be afraid to open the envelope if it arrives here.


24 posted on 09/26/2013 6:48:11 AM PDT by Ax
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To: rrrod

I’ve said for years now that I feel like the Bruce Willis character visiting the past in 12 Monkeys. But it’s not just that I see the future almost as clearly as he did. Rather, the bible is pretty clear on it. And I believe each generation bears responsibility for not the world they inherit, but what they make of it.

As our founding fathers did.


25 posted on 09/26/2013 6:48:15 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: knarf
I can't get a definitive in-writing answer to what happens in my situation. I'm on Medicare Part A, but didn't not sign up for Part B or the pharmaceutical program. Will I be forced to get any more coverage?

One thing for sure. I wouldn't sign anything unless I saw in writing and official that laid out my options.

26 posted on 09/26/2013 6:48:18 AM PDT by grania
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You are old and no longer useful! Just a drain on society and no longer required. Crawl into a hole and pass quietly into the nite. Who cares about You!

The panels will decide for you...

/blantant sarcasm from a 55 year old


27 posted on 09/26/2013 6:49:08 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: cuban leaf

I completely agree with you. If I get sick, either I will get well on my own or I will croak. Big deal. Life is torturous and not worth living right now in the grip of demons.

My sister was in the hospital this year and it was awful. I would like to avoid all that mess


28 posted on 09/26/2013 6:49:52 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: cuban leaf
Pretty much MY attitude as well.

God's been good to me in that I haven't had any problems in life that wasn't fixed with stiches.

29 posted on 09/26/2013 6:50:37 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: seeker41

LOL...that made my day!!! Thanks!


30 posted on 09/26/2013 6:50:56 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: yldstrk

I really like to read Ecclesiastes. Proverbs is wisdom 101. Ecclesiastes is wisdom 301. And the very last two sentences bring the whole thing into perspective.

Whenever I read it, it is cover to cover.


31 posted on 09/26/2013 6:51:26 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Ax

you ought to be embarrassed not trumpeting the fact that you lived off the taxpayers for years unless you are retired military


32 posted on 09/26/2013 6:52:29 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Nip

Because of “ObamaCare” he is closing his doors and leaving the medical practice entirely.
*********
A couple of years ago my doctor made his exit into an early retirement — because of Obamacare. He absolutely detested it.


33 posted on 09/26/2013 6:52:33 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: rrrod

Welcome to the USSA.


34 posted on 09/26/2013 6:54:14 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Jane Long
My doctor (former doctor) still accepts Medicare BUT he now charges $1800 per year per patient for Medical Concierge if you wish to make an appointment. Medical Concierge‎ coming to your area soon. ‎
35 posted on 09/26/2013 6:54:41 AM PDT by satan (The tree of liberty is dying in the drought.)
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To: yldstrk; Ax
Wow!

50 years ago YOU would'a taken a gummint job 'cause they paid SO well and offered terrific bennies.

Yes you would'a ... don't try to deny it.

36 posted on 09/26/2013 6:56:05 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Cheerio

The “wealthy” will have moved off shore to escape what is happening.
*******
Sure to be a growing trend. The idea appeals to many. And the potential for a higher standard of living is icing on the cake.

If you can’t beat ‘em, leave ‘em. :)


37 posted on 09/26/2013 6:58:39 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: knarf

50 years ago government jobs were for losers

government jobs now are a way to get “on the gravy train”—the first time I ever heard this was from my sister who was attending Northwestern University J school in Evanston Illinois.

She is on the gravy train alright, disability.


38 posted on 09/26/2013 6:58:47 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Youngman542012
True a lot of Doctors will quit but expect a flood of foreign doctors.
39 posted on 09/26/2013 6:59:20 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: knarf

God’s been good to me in that I haven’t had any problems in life that wasn’t fixed with stiches.


I think our current culture hates that life is temporary. They are ignoring what man’s lot in life is. They are getting old, but forgetting to pick up wisdom about life along the way.

Us old guys can spend our last days in all sorts of helpful ways. We can teach the young about “real” life. We can help the infirm. We can lead by example. But if we just want to keep on living to please ourselves, and have not seen any change in what pleases us, we are not getting it.

I learned to play bass when I was 44 (1998)and played in “classic rock” bands (among other genres) right up through moving to Kentucky a couple of years ago. That ended it after seeing what I saw.

Specifically, it was fat and ugly men and women in their 50’s, 60’s and 70’s acting like teenagers, only in much more repulsive ways. I actually conversed with many of these people and it’s almost like there is nobody home. They have picked up zero wisdom after many decades on this planet and their lifestyle (even away from the bars) demonstrates it.

And after a great deal of reflection I realized that it was the same in Seattle, except it had a prettier coating on it. A nicer facade. America has become a culture that is rotten to the core. It is why we are where we are. And where we are is a very, VERY bad place. Only a minority of us notice. More are figuring it out, but it takes direct impacts on their lives for it to happen.

It will get a lot worse before it gets better.


40 posted on 09/26/2013 7:00:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Ax

Ax, I’m a retired fed too. Don’t worry — OPM already said fed retiree pensions won’t be affected. I’m not worried.


41 posted on 09/26/2013 7:02:21 AM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: krunkygirl

” GET MAD and get loud!”

Who are you going to get mad at? The government who has spent itself into oblivion, or the poor taxpaying SOB who doesn’t have enough money to pay for his own health insurance, least of all someone elses?


42 posted on 09/26/2013 7:02:52 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Gaffer

You sir, have your priorities exactly in the right spot. Thank you.


43 posted on 09/26/2013 7:04:00 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: knarf

If you have a Medicare Advantage plan, Obamacare promises that the cost will rise as soon as the “temporary delay” is ended (i.e. when the Democrats think they can get away with it without too much electoral pain).


44 posted on 09/26/2013 7:04:11 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: All

Earlier this week I received a nice letter from the Veterans Administration informing me that as a vet I was entitled to healthcare ay my local VA hospital. My insurance qualification for the 2013 Affordable Care Act had therefore been met and no further action was required.

I must add that I have frequented VA in the past and am grateful to have that benefit. It was not free, but earned IMHO :^)

Freegards-


45 posted on 09/26/2013 7:04:38 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: RFEngineer
Or the useful idiot embed down at the SMV ...

They know not what they do and are incapable of receiving any information that would help them formulate more mature thoughts.

46 posted on 09/26/2013 7:05:12 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Nip

Same thing here. My 92 year old mother has had the same doctor for 30 years, until March of this year. She doesn’t trust the new one, as the doc didn’t even do blood work the last time I took her. I wouldn’t be surprised if they stop treating her at 93.


47 posted on 09/26/2013 7:06:07 AM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home.....)
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To: seeker41

Thank you for your service


48 posted on 09/26/2013 7:06:42 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: cuban leaf

Wow, time to seek help for depression. You are slipping over the edge.


49 posted on 09/26/2013 7:09:59 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Ax

Most feds are Democrats, especially the ones in the government unions. And they voted in lock step for this clown.

They thought they were taken care of. They never thought their health plans would be vulnerable. I wonder what they’re thinking today?


50 posted on 09/26/2013 7:11:22 AM PDT by Starboard
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