Skip to comments."The Stupid Party" is Inadequate to Describe the GOPe
Posted on 09/27/2013 1:21:34 PM PDT by crusher
Yesterday in a mindless, myrmidon-focused speech Obamao threw down a gauntlet, knowing 1) the Senate Rebuttlikins would never pick it up, and 2) if there was a miraculous spinal transplant and they did, the LIV would still gravitate to the coolest bad-boys in town who promised better bread-and-circuses.
Obamaos Brier Rabbit challenge was for the Rebuttlikins to get on board with the funding and enacting of Obamaocare since if it was so bad they (the GOP) could exploit its failure and reap the electoral harvest. I suppose some of the folks on "our side" are stoopid enough to fall for the feint (Hello, Senator McCain?), but any reasonable observer should recognize that WHEN Obamaocare fails, the Rats and the media (but I am being redundant) will blame the GOP for the failure because they were not being ardent enough supporters! Obamao knows that the Dem lapdogs in the Stalininst press (smack! Stop being redundant!) will never hold their collectivist masters responsible for anything. WHEN Obamaocare fails, it will be the GOP fault for being obstructionist troublemakers, not the Communists Party for being, well, communists. And the half-witted voters who comprise a majority of the electorate make a decision, it will be based on the template provided by the media.
As an aside, I cannot help but notice even though we have the highly touted alternative media flexing its muscle, the collectivists control the public discourse, or at least the political process, much more tightly than ever before. We might have bits and pieces of talk radio and the internet, but the Left controls every single institution of the culture. Every single one. It reminds me of Nicaragua and Cuba, where there is nearly universal literacy, but a 100% control of the available reading material.
Besides, extolling the clout of talk radio is no comfort inasmuch as their rise to prominence has been accompanied by a rise of the fascist state and an ever-diminishing menu of liberties.
Obamaocare will be a catastrophe and every thinking person knows this, including its sponsors. But, thats the point. It will not be the GOP who harvests the electoral windfall of the coming medical sysgtem collapse, it will be the collectivists who will finally have their crisis that must not be wasted. They will then propose, and the electorate will clamor for, universal single payer gubmint-run health care for everybody, political elites excepted. Game, set, match.
The electorate wanted a transformed America, what they are getting is an America being transformed into Cuba. When will they see the truth? For many, never. For the rest, when the pain and carnage hits them in their own homes. I mean that literally. When they are wiped out financially, when they are assaulted by roving bands of murderous predators, when the ruling elites retreat behind a wall of hyper-armed security forces while the little people are on their own. Then they will see the truth of what they have voted for.
Am I the only one who sees this?
No you certainly are not the only one who sees this.
What we do now? Can the local party censure them?
You not be alone.
they hold all the cards because some stupid people voted for bammy, some stupid people didn't vote, some stupid people voted third party....sadly, some of these stupid people are freepers.....
It’s not that we don’t have the cards, we don’t have the courage. Regardless of what the Senate has done, the House can walk away from it. They have the votes. Cards, so to speak, mean nothing if you have the votes. But you have to have the courage to vote a certain way, in this case, a vote to shut down the government. They don’t even need to vote. At this point, they can simply adjourn, or move on to other business. In other words, we’re not voting on the measure as returned from the Senate.
The list of traitors -
Here are the 25 Senate Republicans who voted to allow Harry Reid (D-NV) and the Democrats to fund Obamacare today:
Lamar Alexander (R-TN) John Cornyn (R-TX)
Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
John Barrasso (R-WY) John Hoeven (R-ND)
Roy Blunt (R-MO) Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
John Boozman (R-AR) Mike Johanns (R-NE)
Richard Burr (R-NC) Ron Johnson (R-WI)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Jeff Chiesa (R-NJ) John McCain (R-AZ)
Dan Coats (R-IN) Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Tom Coburn (R-OK) Lisa Murkowksi (R-AK)
Thad Cochran (R-MS) John Thune (R-SD)
Susan Collins (R-ME) Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Democrat Lite Party.
Nathan Bedford's second Maxim of American politics: The remedy for failed socialism is invariably more socialism.
Exactly. Hope (and it’s a faint hope) that is what the Republicans are planning on doing. Walking away, that is.
Nope, not biting. Compromise with The Devil and The Devil wins.
The WISP party - World Interventionist Stupid Party.
The lesson of what happened to England after centuries of debilitating wars and costs of Empire everywhere is too much to grasp for the stupid party. They have to change or perish. We need a party to rebuild America for American citizens. What is good for General Motors has not been good for America. Wall Street is not Main Street. Main Street votes.
Principles are stupid— got it.
Abandoning principles and voting for whatever lying chameleon tells you nice things during the campaign is smart, right?
So tell me, how much would you sell your family for?
The whole idea of obamacare is to go to a single payer system, to be administered by the government, eliminating the concept of employer provided healthcare. The savings incurred by business and government interests will not be passed to the employee. Pay more, get less, and be greatful that you get even that.
Sheesh, you peasants refuse to get with the program.
I don’t think you can take sole credit for that maxim, old friend. Most of us have grasped the simple fact that liberals’ solution to any failure is to metastasize. But you can have it if you insist, and I’ll credit you for it. You know what RR used to always say...it’s amazing what can get done if nobody cares who gets the credit.
What is your remedy?
If the people are too stupid to know what a bad thing Obamacare is once they are living it, what hope do we have?
Either the reality leads to repeal or we have lost the electorate to the moochers.
I have not given up hope yet. It seems many here have.
“Wall Street is not Main Street. Main Street votes.”
Main Street votes the way Wall Street tells them to.
They need to change the party symbol from an elephant to a jellyfish.
I am a hopeless optimist, but that does not mean I have lost my ability to see and observe.
As C.S. Lewis is reputed to have said, “Reality is a ruthless instructor. It does not care whether you agree with it or not.”
It is not that the electorate will not recognize Obamaocare for the dog it is, but they will ask for MORE collectivism to solve the problem. If reality leads to a repeal of gubmint interference in the marketplace for medical care, excellent. I do not see anything in the political culture that would lead me to believe this is imminent, or even possible. We simply have two competing factions of the Gimmedat Party deciding the future of the nation.
What do you see out there that gives you hope for the USA? Truly I am not trying to be argumentative, perhaps you are seeing things that I am not and I would like to know what it is.
They’re not stupid. People who vote for them are stupid. McCain is a great example. He shouldn’t have been elected the first time. He’s a traitor.
And by the way, I’m stupid. I voted for the bastard in 2008.
They are not stupid in that they don’t “get” it. They “get” it. They just don’t care, don’t think it affects them, are compromised or agree with it.
The White Flag Party.
I think there is still a majority of regular working people. They are largely apolitical and react to the MSM storylines. In general.
But they have enough residual common sense to reject the farthest flights of fancy, like belief in global warming hysteria.
They largely do not follow politics and thinkn of themselves as caring people. That’s why they vote Democrat. They believe it is the way to show they are compassionate.
But when they get sticker shock and doctor access problems, they will rouse and see who led them here.
The GOP will need a stragegy based on the market, true insurance and charity. It is possible that a govt screwup can nit be an automatic slam dunk for more govt.
Like i said, if things are as you say, then we have already lost. If you think we have lost, then going out with a suicude mission might make sense.
I dont believe all is lost.
Maybe im wrong. Maybe im right. Time will tell.