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Math Explains History: Simulation Accurately Captures the Evolution of Ancient Complex Societies
ScienceNewsline ^ | Tuesday, September 24, 2013 | National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis (NIMBioS)

Posted on 09/28/2013 10:44:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The question of how human societies evolve from small groups to the huge, anonymous and complex societies of today has been answered mathematically, accurately matching the historical record on the emergence of complex states in the ancient world.

Intense warfare is the evolutionary driver of large complex societies, according to new research from a trans-disciplinary team at the University of Connecticut, the University of Exeter in England, and the National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis (NIMBioS)...

The study's cultural evolutionary model predicts where and when the largest-scale complex societies arose in human history.

Simulated within a realistic landscape of the Afro-Eurasian landmass during 1,500 BCE to 1,500 CE, the mathematical model was tested against the historical record. During the time period, horse-related military innovations, such as chariots and cavalry, dominated warfare within Afro-Eurasia. Geography also mattered, as nomads living in the Eurasian Steppe influenced nearby agrarian societies, thereby spreading intense forms of offensive warfare out from the steppe belt.

The study focuses on the interaction of ecology and geography as well as the spread of military innovations and predicts that selection for ultra-social institutions that allow for cooperation in huge groups of genetically unrelated individuals and large-scale complex states, is greater where warfare is more intense.

While existing theories on why there is so much variation in the ability of different human populations to construct viable states are usually formulated verbally, by contrast, the authors' work leads to sharply defined quantitative predictions, which can be tested empirically.

The model-predicted spread of large-scale societies was very similar to the observed one; the model was able to explain two-thirds of the variation in determining the rise of large-scale societies...

Citation: Turchin P, Currie T, Turner E, Gavrilets S. 2013. War, space, and the evolution of Old World complex societies. PNAS.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble

and from the first link sent to me:
Mongol horsemen. Intense warfare is the evolutionary driver of large complex societies, according to a new mathematical model whose findings accurately match those of the historical record in the ancient world. (Image courtesy National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis)

Mongol horsemen. Intense warfare is the evolutionary driver of large complex societies, according to a new mathematical model whose findings accurately match those of the historical record in the ancient world. (Image courtesy National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis)

1 posted on 09/28/2013 10:44:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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http://www.sciencenewsline.com/news/images/2013092400020012.jpg

2 posted on 09/28/2013 10:45:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: null and void; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

Thanks null and void.

3 posted on 09/28/2013 10:46:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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GIGO, like this:

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4 posted on 09/28/2013 10:53:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

For later


5 posted on 09/28/2013 10:55:30 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SunkenCiv

OK, now who wins the “Big One” and what is left?


6 posted on 09/28/2013 10:55:53 AM PDT by capt B
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To: SunkenCiv

On the two maps, the data and simulation are different for Great Britain and for Northern Europe.

Anybody know how to get inside this model, and learn the answer about those differences?


7 posted on 09/28/2013 11:06:12 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: capt B

Did Hari Seldon help with the mathematics on this?


8 posted on 09/28/2013 11:07:05 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Comparing the simulation to the data, I’d call results as hitting the side of the barn as opposed to accurate.


9 posted on 09/28/2013 11:22:06 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SunkenCiv
Intense warfare is the evolutionary driver of large complex societies

Might be bad news for anyone hoping to find advanced but benign civilizations out there among the stars.

"No model is correct. Some are useful." - George E.P. Box
So there's that.

10 posted on 09/28/2013 11:30:04 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
And in THIS slide we see Gran;maw an .... CHILDREN! .. pay attention ... this is your FAMILY!


11 posted on 09/28/2013 11:43:18 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wars cause a concentration of wealth and power for those who wage the wars and provide the weapons etc to fight them.


12 posted on 09/28/2013 11:48:18 AM PDT by grania
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To: SunkenCiv

Not new, Asimov and others wrote about this in SciFi decades ago.


13 posted on 09/28/2013 11:57:45 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: grania
Wars cause a concentration of wealth and power for those who wage the wars and provide the weapons etc to fight them.

Wars drive the cutting edge of technology. The wealth comes from the commercialization of the new technology. This message courtesy of the commercial version of ARPANET.

14 posted on 09/28/2013 12:06:30 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: SunkenCiv

Math explains history??

Math is pure logic - by itself it’s an empty vessel. Its use in a model restricts the results to logical consequences. But the crucial aspect of a model are its assumptions about, in this case, human behavior under various conditions and the conditions themselves

Given the unpredictability of human behavior and conditions I don’t see these models getting very far.


15 posted on 09/28/2013 12:07:37 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: knarf

I see the resemblance in the third, eighth and second beads of the first, fourth and seventh rows!


16 posted on 09/28/2013 12:23:12 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Really?

I was thinking more of the 1st bead in the sixth row ... but ... my eyes aren't as good as they used to be ... you're probably right.

17 posted on 09/28/2013 1:07:49 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SunkenCiv
Interesting to see where the simulation does not match the data.
18 posted on 09/28/2013 1:12:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Makes sense. Command and control ICS/NIMS - span of command - separation of functions into operations, planning, logistics, financing all those top down basic organizational models that fit the military and emergency response are the foundational blocks for effectively mobilizing a society to accomplish something together.


19 posted on 09/28/2013 1:35:24 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Reeses

>>Wars drive the cutting edge of technology. The wealth comes from the commercialization of the new technology. This message courtesy of the commercial version of ARPANET.

But what is war other than a high emergency factor situation? Seen in that light, ANY high emergency situation can become a technology driver. My candidate for the mother of all high emergency situations is that chunk of rock out there with planet Earth in its cross hairs. If humans were smart, they’d put their eyes to the little end of many telescopes and stop the eternal bickering over table scraps. One of those chunks of rock wiped out North America only 10,000 years ago. Google Richard Firestone and the Younger Dryas Event. Smart people abstract principle from repetitive phenomena. Crediting war as the engine of progress is a fascist’s wet dream, but does not describe the principle of progress driving, only it’s chronic and largely destructive iteration. We need to wage war on comets and meteors, not each other.


20 posted on 10/01/2013 6:26:35 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
We need to wage war on comets and meteors, not each other.

It's a noble thought, and some people are working on it, however the technology to divert an asteroid away from Earth is the exact same technology needed to steer it directly into Earth to completely annihilate an enemy. That technology is a poor man's Death Star.

By nature humans are highly vain creatures, certain that God made us in his image. The problem with vanity is it's soon followed by envy, and not the good kind, the kind that wants to steal, destroy, rape, kill, and vote Democrat. Vanity and envy are so deeply woven into who we are, they cannot be removed. Warfare made us. We can suppress it somewhat but can't eliminate it. If you want to count yourself among the survivors, never fall for the old socialist disarmament ploy. It's a trap!

21 posted on 10/02/2013 8:09:49 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

“It’s a noble thought, and some people are working on it, however the technology to divert an asteroid away from Earth is the exact same technology needed to steer it directly into Earth to completely annihilate an enemy. That technology is a poor man’s Death Star.”

We have the technology to hit it with ICBM’s, all that is necessary is a hardened nose cone that can penetrate a foot or two to break a big one into smaller bits that are far less dangerous. Hit it early enough and you change its orbit. Hit it at the upper reaches of the atmosphere and you turn it to dust. This is off the shelf technology.

Problem is, you won’t find many liberals who want to turn the world’s nuclear arsenals into a savant technology. They front all sorts of exotic work arounds that will take decades to deploy. They are out there and they can wipe us out.


22 posted on 10/02/2013 8:06:27 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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