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Discovery of 2 Monoliths,One On Mars,in 2009,& The One on Phobos,in 2007,As Revealed By Buzz Aldrin
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Posted on 09/28/2013 1:04:40 PM PDT by lbryce

This post is a conglomeration of several articles, sources of information, on research that I've gathered, circumstances of which can be interpreted, lead to the conclusion of the seeming existence of two monoliths, uncovered in situations unrelated to each other.

One of the so-called monolith-shaped objects was discovered by the Mars Global Surveyor in 2009 on the planet Mars, whereas the other so-called monolith-shaped object found located on the Martian moon of Phobos in 2007.

I perused through many numerous articles to find the most straight-forward, scholarly, scientifically non-committal, links, sources of information, assiduously avoiding any histrionic, hysteria-driven conspiracy-type sources to as staples of the typical sort of website you'd expect to find just such subject matter.

Before the tsunami of expected comments begin to flood this post and engulf me with the many variations on the theme of

"THIS POST IS USELESS WITHOUT PICTURES"

please let me assure you that there are enough pictures in which a determination can be made regarding the authenticity of the monolith-shaped objects, one way or another.

Please bear in mind that no one is suggesting these discoveries are in any way related to an alien civilization fostering intelligent life throughout the universe or that they have some meaning for mankind that is larger than life, that if you stare long enough at the monoliths you will imagine hearing the strains of Thus Spake Zarathustra, or that groups of opposing simian tribes will be erupting in any mob crowds any time soon.

C-SPAN: Buzz Aldrin Reveals Existence of Monolith on Mars Moon

SpaceRef:Canadian Mission Concept to Mysterious Mars Moon Phobos to FeatureUnique Rock-
Dock Maneuver Press Release Source: Optech Incorporated Posted Thursday, May 3, 2007

Canada Studies Mission to Mysterious Mars Moon

Optech Incorporated, the global market leader in the development, manufacture and support of advanced, laser-based survey systems, announced today that is has been selected by the Canadian Space Agency to lead the study of a Canadian-led mission to Phobos, the largest moon of Mars. The proposed Phobos Reconnaissance and International Mars Exploration ("PRIME") mission was selected from among 12 proposals received by the Canadian Space Agency last year to be the object of a concept and feasibility study.

The focus of the study will be to outline a Canadian-led mission that could rendezvous, study and land on Phobos, one of the solar system's most mysterious objects. Scientists believe Phobos may hold clues to the origin and evolution of Mars and the solar system. Several missions by Russia and other countries have come close to Phobos, but study leader Dr. Robert (Bob) Richards, Director of Optech's Space Division, thinks that Canada and its international partners have the right stuff to get to the surface and unlock some its mysteries. "This mission would be a wonderful evolution of Canada's leadership role in planetary science and exploration to support the advancement of human knowledge of Mars and our solar system," said Dr. Richards.

Wikipedia:Image-Mars Monolith

Wikipedia:Image-Phobos Monolith

Wikimedia:Different Angle:Image-Mars Monolith

Daily Mail:Buzz Aldrin stokes the Mystery of the Monolith on Mars

By Daily Mail Reporter UPDATED: 04:48 EST, 6 August 2009

An image of what appears to be a mysterious rocky monument on Mars has excited space junkies around the world.

The 'monolith', was snapped from 165miles away using a special high resolution camera on board the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter.

After being published on the website Lunar Explorer Italia, it set tongues wagging with space buffs questioning whether there was once life on the Red Plan

But scientists at the University of Arizona, who captured the original image, reckon it's just an unremarkable boulder, which could measure up to five metres across.

Yisrael Spinoza, a spokesman for the HiRISE department of the university's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory, gave Mail Online the original image so readers can make up their own minds.

He said: 'It would be unwise to refer to it as a "monolith" or "structure" because that implies something artificial, like it was put there by someone for example.

'In reality it's more likely that this boulder has been created by breaking away from the bedrock to create a rectangular-shaped feature.'

The image seems to resemble the black monolith that appears during key moments of man's evolution in the Stanley Kubrick film 2001: A Space Odyssey.

The original image, taken last July, was published again this week on the University of Arizona's HiRISE website on the 'spotlight' page which seems to have led to the renewed interest.

'Is it possible that there used to be an ancient civilization on Mars?' former Montreal radio presenter David Tyler asked on his blog.

'Is it possible that NASA already knows the answer? Could this be the final straw for disclosure

Last but not least to demonstrate that NASA is not ignoring the phenomena, I've provided below a NASA link that purports to answer questions regarding the discovery of the monoliths in this question and answer forum.

Click Here:JPL Search:Martian Monolith


TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: mars; monolith; phobos
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1 posted on 09/28/2013 1:04:40 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Nonsense.


2 posted on 09/28/2013 1:09:05 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Double nonsense.

People will imagine anything to realize their fantasy.


3 posted on 09/28/2013 1:12:50 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: onedoug

I doubt very much if you spent more than a second trying to read what it says


4 posted on 09/28/2013 1:13:13 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: lbryce

5 posted on 09/28/2013 1:15:11 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: lbryce

Look very carefully on that last monolith picture and you’ll see O’s birth certificate...


6 posted on 09/28/2013 1:16:03 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Er)
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To: lbryce


A better monolith...
7 posted on 09/28/2013 1:16:42 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor < still > has no pedigree.)
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To: lbryce
Phobos has been known to be non-solid since the early days of the space age under Eisenhower. Richard Hoagland has been claiming it is artificial for everal years, even prior to the Univ. of Az. HIRISE (color) images. But the HIRISE images leave no doubt:

Real moons are supposed to be made of dirt, rocks, and green cheese, they are not supposed to reflect light all over creation like that. Phobos is clearly made of metallic strakes.

8 posted on 09/28/2013 1:19:10 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: lbryce

Indeed. Wouldn’t it be a shame if God created an infinite multiverse and only populated it with us? I look forward to the official announcement someday. I hope I live that long.


9 posted on 09/28/2013 1:19:17 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: lbryce
Wait a minute! Now just wait a darn minute! Is that a black monolith I see? BLACK? So what we got is mockery going on here??

Siren please....

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!

BLACK MONOLITH?


10 posted on 09/28/2013 1:19:27 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: lbryce

Buzz Aldrin went to Mars. Interesting.


11 posted on 09/28/2013 1:20:36 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: lbryce
Monolith
12 posted on 09/28/2013 1:22:08 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Yes. According to the scientists a group of white monoliths were captured by a horde of black Mono-Liths were killed, eaten and enjoyed.


13 posted on 09/28/2013 1:23:34 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: lbryce
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread327511/pg1

"The Martian moon Phobos, generally accepted as a celestial body, actually may be an artificial satellite launched long ago by an advanced Martian race, according to Dr. S. Fred Singer, special advisor to President Eisenhower on space developments. No mention was made of the other Mars moon, Deimos.

Dr. Singer backed a claim first made by the Soviet astrophysicist Shklovsky. The Russian scientist's announcement that Phobos was a hollow, artificial satellite, proving the existence of a Martian civilization, set off heated arguments among astronomers. Shklovsky based his decision on a long study of Phobos' peculiar orbit, which other astronomers have noted. The Russian claim has calculations and those of earlier astronomers prove Phobos cannot possibly be an ordinary moon.

In 1963, Raymond H. Wilson Jr., Chief of Applied Mathematics at NASA, joined Shklovsky and Dr. Singer in their Martian conclusions. He stated that "Phobos might be a colossal base orbiting Mars."
www.rense.com... "


My own belief is that Phobos is a long-dead space-station of some sort, related to a general escape from our solar system at a time when it appeared the system would be totally destroyed with nothing remaining habitable. It may actually be a prototype for one or more escape vehicles.

14 posted on 09/28/2013 1:27:20 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
That is totally uncalled for. Go to the black, er, I mean, back of the room.
15 posted on 09/28/2013 1:32:22 PM PDT by JPG (Putin Does Obama.)
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To: fwdude
People will imagine anything to realize their fantasy

Indeed. Remember this one that sparked a cottage industry?


and

If the monolith turns out to be man made, it probably has "Made in China" on it.

16 posted on 09/28/2013 1:35:17 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: AppyPappy
My mother was at a cocktail party in Honolulu many years ago and Buzz Aldrin was there as well. Since she claims to have witnessed UFO's over Whittier, CA in 1952, she had always been curious about ET.

she struck up a conversation with Aldrin and asked him about Apollo 11. He volunteered that he and Armstrong took film and made cursory inspections of alien artifacts near Tranquility Base. In fact he said the only reason Armstrong made such a desperate attempt to land where they did was because that was the only reason we went to the moon.

17 posted on 09/28/2013 1:38:29 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: GeronL

Ping.


18 posted on 09/28/2013 1:38:53 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: varmintman

By non-solid, do you mean fluid or hollow? It’s certainly not fluid, since it’s maintaining its highly irregular shape due to the fact that it generates insufficient gravity to squash itself into an ellipse, like the Earth and its moon have done.

I’ll admit that I can’t tell whether your entire post is a joke.


19 posted on 09/28/2013 1:39:18 PM PDT by dangus
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ping.


20 posted on 09/28/2013 1:39:18 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: lbryce

Don’t forget the first such objects discovered on our own moon in 1966: the “Blair Cuspids” — see http://www.vgl.org/webfiles/lan/cuspids/cuspids.htm


21 posted on 09/28/2013 1:39:26 PM PDT by earglasses (I was blind, and now I hear...)
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To: Oatka

And “Jesus” on a piece of toast.

As if people know what Jesus looked like.


22 posted on 09/28/2013 1:45:32 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: lbryce

I’m sure Jesse Ventura has the inside scoop..... /s


23 posted on 09/28/2013 1:48:21 PM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: Army Air Corps

yay.... Aldrin is the one who put the flag on Mars?

/s


24 posted on 09/28/2013 1:49:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: JPG
Scientists have been able to decipher messages conveyed from one group of black monoliths to several others and have sought the assistance of the NSA, who have been involved in intercepting their communiques.

The NSA have been able to acknowledge a form of communication to be a dialect of extra terrestrial Ebonics-based language and now finally realize how the lack of minorities in the space program with their special language skills have caused serious damage for the future of inter-galactic peace and harmony of which Obama might very well have been the biggest loser of in not having expanded the space budget to allow for astronauts of color and the inevitable loss of Mars' greatest symbol of love and brotherhood, The Fudge-Pack, Six Pack Falluss of Friendship

25 posted on 09/28/2013 1:50:10 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: dangus
Here is some info from a more reliable source:

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Mar_Phobos

Phobos and Deimos appear to be composed of C-type rock, similar to blackish carbonaceous chondrite asteroids. Observations by Mars Global Surveyor indicate that the surface of this small body has been pounded into powder by eons of meteoroid impacts, some of which started landslides that left dark trails marking the steep slopes of giant craters.

http://www.space.com/20346-phobos-moon.html

The examination of Phobos and its companion revealed more than their odd, nonspherical shapes. The two moons are dark gray in color, and heavily cratered. The moons are some of the darkest, least reflective objects in the solar system.

After observing the pair, scientists concluded that they were made of material similar to Type I or II carbonaceous chondrites, the material that makes up asteroids and dwarf planets. The composition and odd shape led some scientists to conclude that Phobos and Deimos came from the asteroid belt, with Jupiter's gravity long ago nudging them into orbit around Mars.

26 posted on 09/28/2013 1:57:49 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: atc23

When extraterrestrial life reveals itself to us, it will probably have parallels to when the Spanish discovered the new world. That didn’t turn out so well for the native population.


27 posted on 09/28/2013 2:03:31 PM PDT by jrg
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To: varmintman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Singer

1960: Artificial Phobos hypothesis

In a 1960 Astronautics newsletter, Singer commented on Iosif Shklovsky's hypothesis that the orbit of the Martian moon Phobos suggests that it is hollow, which implies it is of artificial origin. Singer wrote: "My conclusion there is, and here I back Shklovsky, that if the satellite is indeed spiraling inward as deduced from astronomical observation, then there is little alternative to the hypothesis that it is hollow and therefore martian made. The big "if" lies in the astronomical observations; they may well be in error. Since they are based on several independent sets of measurements taken decades apart by different observers with different instruments, systematic errors may have influenced them." Later measurements confirmed Singer's big "if" caveat: Shklovsky overestimated Phobos' rate of altitude loss due to bad early data. Photographs by probes beginning 1972 show a natural stony surface with craters. Ufologists continue to present Singer as an unconditional supporter of Shklovsky's artificial Phobos hypothesis.

BTW – I could be wrong or thinking of some other crackpot conspiracy site but I thought at one point posting links to Above Top Secret was verboten around here.

28 posted on 09/28/2013 2:07:13 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: lbryce
We have a martian in the White House...


29 posted on 09/28/2013 2:10:16 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: GeronL

Yeah, but NASA won’t let Sheila Jackson Lee see the photos ‘cause they’re racist.


30 posted on 09/28/2013 2:11:14 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

bump


31 posted on 09/28/2013 2:14:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: varmintman

Looks like a spent bullet. Pretty large caliber I reckon.


32 posted on 09/28/2013 2:20:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: jrg
When extraterrestrial life reveals itself to us, it will probably have parallels to when the Spanish discovered the new world. That didn’t turn out so well for the native population.

I think they, whomever they are, have been here for eons but an official announcement from our "rulers" is not so forthcoming. Indeed, the population might very well freak out at the prospect of our own mortality because we have a species wide spiritual malady. JMHO

33 posted on 09/28/2013 2:23:09 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: AppyPappy
Buzz Aldrin went to Mars. Interesting. Sheila Jackson Lee thinks so.
34 posted on 09/28/2013 3:01:20 PM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: lbryce

‘When people find out about that they are going to say, “Who put that there? Who put that there?” Well the universe put it there, or if you choose God put it there.’ — Buzz Aldrin

In the 1960s one of those cool men’s fringe mags (either “Argosy” or “True”) had a frame from the first “dark side” photos taken by the USSR, showing some unremarkable boulders and claiming that one of them was a tall obelisk and three others (in what was described as a straight line) were shorter obelisks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1965-AP-Photo-35mm-USSR-Probe-ZOND-3-Dark-Side-Moon-1st-Tower-UFO-/171094068799

And I found this while looking for that:

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=20212


35 posted on 09/28/2013 3:31:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Army Air Corps
I don't have any recipes for monoliths. Really. Even in my secret recipe notebook.

/johnny

36 posted on 09/28/2013 3:38:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: lbryce

Dumb nonsense.


37 posted on 09/28/2013 3:40:48 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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38 posted on 09/28/2013 3:42:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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More or less hollow. It’s orbit doesn’t work for a solid body the same size.


39 posted on 09/28/2013 4:05:42 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: lbryce

“Open the pod bay door please Hal.”


40 posted on 09/28/2013 4:10:35 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: SunkenCiv

I had actally thought it might have been a topic of discussion here at FR but have only been a Freeper since 2009.

Thanks, SunkenCiv!


41 posted on 09/28/2013 4:11:49 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Any recipes for Xenomorphs? ;-)


42 posted on 09/28/2013 4:26:20 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: TigersEye

bump


43 posted on 09/28/2013 4:30:02 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (The IRS--a softer Gestapo)
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To: Army Air Corps
I can neither confirm nor deny the existance of any recipe for a theoretical xenomorph.

/johnny

44 posted on 09/28/2013 4:34:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: atc23; lbryce; SunkenCiv
she struck up a conversation with Aldrin and asked him about Apollo 11. He volunteered that he and Armstrong took film and made cursory inspections of alien artifacts near Tranquility Base.

Photo taken of the back side of Luna:

NASA images archive link:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS15-P-9625

45 posted on 09/28/2013 5:42:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Dallas59

46 posted on 09/28/2013 6:19:51 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: Dallas59

47 posted on 09/28/2013 6:20:27 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: SERKIT

48 posted on 09/28/2013 6:32:50 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: lbryce

The Death Star’s looking a bit worse for wear...


49 posted on 09/28/2013 7:07:36 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Oatka

The bottom 3 images make the, whatever it is, look even more artificial - it’s oddly symmetrical


50 posted on 09/28/2013 7:55:05 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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