Skip to comments.Star Trek illustrates perfectly: In the war between savages and civilized man... You know the rest.
Posted on 09/28/2013 7:36:55 PM PDT by HMS Surprise
The Star Trek episode Mirror Mirror illustrates the problem with cultures that solve their problems with violence... perfectly.
Probably always will. Geez, when I die I will MISS the future STAR TREK shows. Dang.
There is some fan fiction that takes this episode and extrapolates what happens when evil Spock "considers" Kirk's proposition, and acts on it.
Let's just say that it doesn't end well for bearded Spock.
The evil empire prevails.
This is one of my favorite episodes. But it also depresses me.
It's hard to think of Spock doing rotten things, but for "logical" reasons.
You have made it neat and simple, so neat and simple, that you have had no reason to stop it.
And You've had it for 500 Years!!!
The unanswered question in that episode is “What would you do if you had a Tantalus field device?”
Barbara Luna = hot.
That’s a good episode, gotta love General Order 24. I always liked the episodes where Scotty got to command.
BUMP for Morning Coffee. Goodnight! :)
I feel ya, cloud!
It also wins the award for most creative use of castoff props from a WW2 movie.
The “Mirror, Mirror” episode always makes me ponder analogies to America, in which some strange point in time, the country I knew and loved disappeared in a wink, to be replaced by an ugly, vomitous, alternate-universe America, in which everything from values to morals has been turned totally upside-down.
And to add an even more depressing footnote, I didn’t even get a sexy Barbara Luna out of the deal.
How has this not been removed by YouTube?
good question, I thought the CBS website was the only place to watch the full episodes.
It also gave us one of Scotty's best-ever lines (in response to the weasely Ambassador):
"The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank."
That was subtle??
The problem with this is that historically the civilized man is quite often in the wrong.
As our own history makes quite clear.
Wait ... Wut?
Love the episode....loved even more the two part last season, ST Enterprise series “Through a Mirror, Darkly”.
especially loved the opening credits and the twisting of the Zephram Cochrane rearrangement of ‘first contact’, from the ST Movie of the same name....
It’s a shift in consciousness. People used to be nice because they had self control and knew about evil. Now you cannot criticize, and if you do you are not considered loving or nice. They dont get it.
Also humanism is the new religion. People are against spanking or controlin our government, not because they are necessarily afraid or lazy, but because they want to enjoy this chaos, they do not want to be bothered into self control, only maybe forced to the random whims of a thug or master.
Yes, the scenes of the Defiant were very well done. Someone actually dove into the old Star Trek blueprints and found that there was a aft phaser array that had never been shown before. And I always thought the Tholians deserved a more thorough butt-kicking, so the episode was satisfying in that regard as well. However, Bakula's mirror-universe Captain Archer made me appreciate just how nuanced Shatner could be, despite all the criticism to the contrary.
Around the same time Luna did the “Star Trek” episode, she was also in an “F.B.I.” episode, with her hair up and classily attired, really looking quite fetching.
I met her once, and I believe, like a lot of actors who guested in “Trek,” is somewhat bemused that out of a long career and HUNDREDS of tv roles, it’s this one singular appearance that everyone cites to her.
Thanks for the ping.
Given the premise of “Mirror, Mirror”, that alternate universe would be getting better.
You would be the En-nessae
of course I had to watch the whole episode and forget all about Freeping and then I turned off the computer because of the thunderstorms and went to bed.
Roddenberry said he bedded all those actresses
Understandable: there's some REALLY good stories in the original series: Balance of Terror, City on the Edge of Forever, Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, Mirror, Mirror…
You should watch the first season of Mission:Impossible on Netflix. That was also filmed at Desilu, and you will see the same supporting actors playing supporting roles in M:I, too. Even some of the same sets, if you look closely enough.
There was a short-run show where they used the same sets from Gilligan’s Island for a season or two!! I forget the name of it though.
Talk about recycling
Roddenberry was indeed the sleaze, and notoriously used his producer status for babes. But actresses who guested on “Trek” like Barbara Luna, or Madlyn Rhue, or Antoinette Bower, and such, had VERY busy and successful careers going on, and hardly needed to succumb to Roddenberry’s “casting-couch favors” for roles. Each would probably laugh in Roddenberry’s face, because they’d have a “Gunsmoke” or “Fugitive” or “Mission: Impossible” role lined up the very next week.
I used to think that, but I have come to the conclusion that there are deeper issues of conflict than mere melanin content of the skin. I'm tired of trying to be altruistic when I/we do not get the same pass.
BTW, Whom Gods Destroy was my all time fave.
I also have to say that the 4-Season “Enterprise
was the only spinoff that approached the original and surpassed it at times.
This episode is scheduled on ME TV tonight.
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