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U.S. Bishops Urge Congress: Use CR to Save Catholics from Coercion by Obama Administration
Cybercast News Service ^ | September 29, 2013 - 10:19 PM | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 09/29/2013 10:18:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The Catholic bishops of the United States have sent a last-ditch letter to members of the House and Senate asking them to protect the religious liberty of American Catholics, which is under attack by the Obama administration.

Specifically, the bishops are asking Congress to use the continuing resolution that must be enacted to keep the federal government funded after midnight on Monday—or otherwise use the bill that will be needed by mid-October to increase the legal limit on the federal debt—to prohibit the effects of an Obamacare regulation that force Catholics to act against their faith.

Under this regulation, many Catholics will quite literally be denied the right to live according to their faith so long as they live in the United States. …

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; catholics; coercion; obamacare

1 posted on 09/29/2013 10:18:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Since the US Roman Catholic Episcopate was four-square behind the push to pass 0bamacare -- and still have not repudiated any part of their support except those bits that gore their own particular oxen -- why are we interested in carrying water on their behalf?

A quid pro quo ought to be: full support for conservative efforts to repeal this monstrosity, not just for your narrow interests but in its entirety.

2 posted on 09/29/2013 10:46:27 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: FredZarguna
Since the US Roman Catholic Episcopate was four-square behind the push to pass 0bamacare

Source?

3 posted on 09/29/2013 10:47:59 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Where was the Catholic HIERARCHY when Nanny the RED marched down the streets of WDC carrying her big hammer? Oh and how about that fraud Bart Stupack that spent his political career preening as a pro-life democrat? The list is long of political Catholic creatures that passed this socialistic doctrine. THEY OWN IT!!!!!

Conservatism is taking responsibility for ones own actions. Something apparently not a requirement in Catholic dogma, it is always somebody else that caused the ‘sin’.

4 posted on 09/29/2013 10:54:59 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Olog-hai

Good luck with that. Catholics aren’t a protected class like muzzies.


5 posted on 09/29/2013 10:57:22 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I assume you have a computer and know how to use it. Google "Catholic Bishops support Obamacare", and look for, oh, only about ten thousand results.

US Bishops have never voiced ANY OPPOSITION to socialized medicine. They have been strongly in favor of it EVERY TIME it has EVER been proposed. It's part of the "preferential option for the poor." (read: socialism.) All they want is for contraception and abortion to be left out of it. In other words: "our special pleading should matter, but liberty and sound economics shouldn't."

Read these two articles -- among many -- and weep.

catholic-bishops-lobby-for-obamacare-amnesty-for-illegals

http://seeingredaz.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/church-leaders-who-supported-obamacare-now-outraged/

6 posted on 09/29/2013 11:17:43 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Look it up.

It’s true. The USCCB often pointed out that they had been supporting nationalized, socialize medicine for eighty years.

Dolan’s letter last year to Obama, complaining about the HHS Abortion Mandate, repeated that the USCCB still supports Obamacare.


7 posted on 09/29/2013 11:18:28 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Just mythoughts
I am a Catholic, my family has been Catholic for well over a thousand years. We have always taken responsibility for our actions.

How dare you blame the rest of us for the actions of an apostate, whatever she calls herself?

As you judge, so shall ye be judged.

Or are you just looking for someone to blame? Where were you?

8 posted on 09/29/2013 11:35:31 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/health-care/upload/health-care-reform-summary-2010.pdf


9 posted on 09/29/2013 11:56:50 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Just mythoughts; FredZarguna

Does the US constitution only apply to conservative voters ?

Should religious freedom not be protected for all citizens not just the ones that vote the way we think they should ?

Urge our elected officials to, among other things, support religious freedom for all americans.


10 posted on 09/30/2013 12:19:25 AM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I am a Catholic, my family has been Catholic for well over a thousand years. We have always taken responsibility for our actions.

And yet you are clueless as the reality of what the powers that be within your religion are literally doing? Are you unaware the former pope was all about 'universal health care, fancy way of renaming socialized healthcare?

How dare you blame the rest of us for the actions of an apostate, whatever she calls herself?

she did nothing that did not get approved by the majority! Only now has word filtered down and out that she has a problem. This abomination called 'healthcare' is that old dead lion of the Senate that got a saint's burial, Teddy Kennedy's revenge. Deal with it.

As you judge, so shall ye be judged.

Pot meet kettle!

Or are you just looking for someone to blame? Where were you?

I have been planting seeds of truth, and it is not my business if the 'soil' is or is not fertile. Only God through Christ saves. And yet I am among the millions of Americans that must suffer through the religion of socialism.

Hey these socialists got their control over OUR healthcare, they have moved on to their next agenda make saints out of illegals. Deal with it.

11 posted on 09/30/2013 12:42:08 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: wonkowasright
Does the US constitution only apply to conservative voters ? Should religious freedom not be protected for all citizens not just the ones that vote the way we think they should ? Urge our elected officials to, among other things, support religious freedom for all americans.

Conservatives are the only voters that give a hoot about the Constitution. The government ...'we the people', are not given authority to enforce religion. It was this bunch that did not seem to mind when Nanny the RED said we would have to pass the legislation to find out what was in it. They put their faith in the wrong place.

Now there is religion, and then there is reality. Reality is whacking US across our nose with continuous blows.

12 posted on 09/30/2013 12:50:02 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: wonkowasright
Your rejoinder is illogical and silly. The US Constitution isn't just the Free Exercise Clause in one amendment, it's an entire body of thought, law, and tradition for which the US Roman Catholic Episcopate has historically shown little, if any regard and often outright hostility.

Urge your churchmen to, among other things, show support for the entire Constitution, and not just the one tiny phrase that protects their special carve-out.

13 posted on 09/30/2013 12:55:34 AM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: FredZarguna

So to be clear you do not think congress should enact laws to protect religious freedom if that freedom protects catholics ?


14 posted on 09/30/2013 1:02:02 AM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: wonkowasright
So to be clear you do not think congress should enact laws to protect religious freedom if that freedom protects catholics ?

Congress is US, they in majority were elected to do exactly what they are doing. Well, except those that helped them get elected thought they were entitled to get 'freebies', even if the rest of US got screwed.

15 posted on 09/30/2013 1:09:07 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: NVDave
Thanks, Dave. From that document, referring to the ACA:

Despite the bishops‟ consistent advocacy, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act signed into law did not incorporate the three moral criteria the bishops had identified. However, though the bishops ultimately opposed the new law, they recognized the good present in the bill and look forward to advocating future legislation that incorporates the three moral criteria necessary for authentic life-giving health care reform.

So, it would not be accurate to state the Bishops supported the act as passed, only the idea of expanding coverage for poor, especially children.

That in no way implies a break with Church Doctrine on the issues of Abortion nor Contraception, as other posters have implied.

Certainly, no one here wants sick and dying children to be denied access to health care, but the issue of Obamacare has never been providing health care, rather, one of control, economic redistribution, and forcing (some) people to pay for procedures or pharma to which they have a distinct moral objection.

That the White House closeted crypto-Muslim would push such is no surprise, and while Nancy Pelosi, (the late) Teddy Kennedy, and others may claim what they will, that does not make them so. Neither is a spokesperson for the Catholic Church.

16 posted on 09/30/2013 1:45:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: FredZarguna; Salvation
Since the US Roman Catholic Episcopate was four-square behind the push to pass 0bamacare -- and still have not repudiated any part of their support except those bits that gore their own particular oxen -- why are we interested in carrying water on their behalf?

With a hat-tip to Salvation:

Updated: *153* Bishops (Over 80% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate

In the past I’ve compiled a list of all the bishops speaking out on a particular controversial issue (for instance, over Notre Dame’s invitation to President Obama) — here are the bishops who have spoken out against the Obama/HHS mandate.

[See my ongoing coverage of Obama/HHS's war against religious liberty herehere, here and most recently here. I'm also tweeting more updates @AmericanPapist.]

If I have missed anyone please let me know in the comments! And please double-check that your bishop really is not there before posting. The list is not in any particular order at this point.

Items in bold mean the statement was read at all diocesan Masses or included in all parish bulletins on Sunday:

SPECIAL MENTION: “The Assembly of Orthodox Bishops in North America just issued a formal statement of protest against the HHS mandate in which the Assembly, representing all 53 Orthodox bishops in North America, references their complete agreement with the statements of the USCCB.”

THANK YOU to everyone who has helped me build and correct this list.

NOTE: If you would like a statement by an Eastern Rite bishop to be included please send me the link/document or post it in the comments! Thank you. I’m trying to provide documentation for all the bishops listed and Eastern Rite bishops have been harder for me to track down. Thank you for understanding!

UPDATE: Of the 183 dioceses (by my count) in the U.S. who have a bishop currently serving as its head, 155 of them have issued statements. So over 80% of bishops who head dioceses have spoken out against the Obama/HHS mandate.

From, Joint Statement on Health Care Reform by Abp Naumann, Bishop Finn:

I. The Principle of Subsidiarity: Preamble to the Work of Reform

This notion that health care ought to be determined at the lowest level rather than at the higher strata of society, has been promoted by the Church as “subsidiarity.” Subsidiarity is that principle by which we respect the inherent dignity and freedom of the individual by never doing for others what they can do for themselves and thus enabling individuals to have the most possible discretion in the affairs of their lives. (See: Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, ## 185ff.; Catechism of the Catholic Church, # 1883) The writings of recent Popes have warned that the neglect of subsidiarity can lead to an excessive centralization of human services, which in turn leads to excessive costs, and loss of personal responsibility and quality of care.

Pope John Paul II wrote: “By intervening directly and depriving society of its responsibility, the Social Assistance State leads to a loss of human energies and an inordinate increase of public agencies, which are dominated more by bureaucratic ways of thinking than by concern for serving their clients, and which are accompanied by an enormous increase in spending.” (Pope John Paul II, Centesimus Annus #48)

And Pope Benedict writes: “The State which would provide everything, absorbing everything into itself, would ultimately become a mere bureaucracy incapable of guaranteeing the very thing which the suffering person -every person -needs: namely, loving personal concern. We do not need a State which regulates and controls everything, but a State which, in accordance with the principle of subsidiarity, generously acknowledges and supports initiatives arising from the different social forces and combines spontaneity with closeness to those in need. … In the end, the claim that just social structures would make works of charity superfluous masks a materialist conception of man: the mistaken notion that man can live ‘by bread alone’ (Mt 4:4; cf. Dt 8:3) - a conviction that demeans man and ultimately disregards all that is specifically human.” (Pope Benedict XVI, Deus Caritas Est #28)

While subsidiarity is vital to the structure of justice, we can see from what the Popes say that it rests on a more fundamental principal, the unchanging dignity of the person. The belief in the innate value of human life and the transcendent dignity of the human person must be the primordial driving force of reform efforts.

Also see, Health Care Principles [Bishop Samuel Aquila, Fargo, ND]

Also see, ObamaCare and Catholic social teaching (Bishop R. Walker Nickless)



17 posted on 09/30/2013 1:56:46 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: All; Olog-hai

Also, call your senators and sign dontfundit.com, and get a few friends to do the same.


18 posted on 09/30/2013 2:17:53 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Olog-hai
Well, according to this article the weeping speaker who refused to break Nanny the RED’s rules and end the funding of this abomination, when he was ordained speaker, is a Catholic! 6th paragraph, learn something new every day.
19 posted on 09/30/2013 2:42:24 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: FredZarguna

No they weren’t behind Obama care. They were stauchly against it because it funded abortions. Plese catch up on the facts before lambasting the Catholic Church. Do you want to see my very, very, very long list of links that verify this?


20 posted on 09/30/2013 8:18:07 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: FredZarguna
You asked for it.....



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21 posted on 09/30/2013 8:20:25 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
What year was this abomination passed as the law of the land? And what year did saint John Roberts of the Supreme Law of the land approve a tax increase for the poor children? What year did the weeping Boenher become Speaker of the House?

There sure does appear to be an ocean of crying over spilled milk now taking place. The former pope was for 'universal healthcare', and there is no way to have that system without one big tax increase.

So IF the particular reproductive issues are removed from this 'universal healthcare', the bishops do not care IF the rest of US have to pay for their poor being taxed to fund their healthcare.

22 posted on 09/30/2013 9:09:54 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: wonkowasright

Grow up.


23 posted on 09/30/2013 11:01:10 AM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: Salvation

A VERY IMPRESSIVE list which, unfortunately for your argument, does nothing but PROVE my point, and demolish your own. The US Roman Catholic Episcopate only objected to the contraceptive and abortion bits of 0bamacare, and had no interest in anything but advancing their socialist agenda.


24 posted on 09/30/2013 11:02:50 AM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: markomalley
It is pointless to post this rubbish to me, since it only validates my point, and demolishes your own.

The US Roman Catholic Episcopate is, generally speaking, a far left organization with no interest in protecting the Constitution, except for the protections afforded for their own little part of the world. They're no different than any other liberals, who seem to think that the entirety of the Constitution is contained within a few sentences of the First Amendment.

They do not oppose the welfare state in any of its manifestations, they do not oppose socialism -- unless it keeps people from showing up to throw money into the basket on Sunday morning.

The only parts of 0bamacare they have not pushed wholeheartedly have to do with abortion and contraception. That's not enough. They made a deal with the devil (literally) and now they're shocked that he's holding them to the bargain.

25 posted on 09/30/2013 11:09:53 AM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: Just mythoughts
There sure does appear to be an ocean of crying over spilled milk now taking place.

Careful. They'll suck up the entire bandwidth of the Internet with endless citations that do nothing but destroy their own position. Abortion, abortion, abortion ... and oh yes, contraception. This, in fine and in sum, is the entire extent of the USCCB's objection to 0bamacare. Indeed, it is the position of the entire hierarchy of the Roman Church, and as you correctly point out, that of the previous pope. And given the bizarre and actually evil economic theories and positions advanced by that Church's putative "brain trust," to wit, the Society of Jesus, there is no reason whatsoever to believe that the current pope has an opinion any different from his predecessor.

The former pope was for 'universal healthcare', and there is no way to have that system without one big tax increase.

If that were all there was to it, you would find me firmly on board. The problem is, it's the end of any form of economic liberty and most freedom in this country.

And it gets worse: the same government that preferentially audited and denied benefits to conservative groups, the same government that is intercepting and retrieving every e-mail and blog post in the country, the same government that is storing every phone call and mobile transaction, the same government that has all of your financial records and has been doing this for years and lying about it, is now going to have the most intimate details of your private life.

Anyone who thinks that information is not going to be used to leverage elections or intimidate, isolate, and destroy the enemies of the state is a fool.

The worst part of all this, is that you can say that right to the Bishop's faces, and they won't care. They literally will not care. Because, once you have waved the "it's for the good of the poor" excuse in their faces, nothing else matters. Time and time again this drama has played out in the Third World with them, and time and time again they haven't understood that the only "preferential option for the poor" is Capitalism. The alternative in various guises is diabolical and has led to nothing but torture, oppression, and murder. And they support it anyway.

26 posted on 09/30/2013 11:31:06 AM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: FredZarguna
Well Christ did warn there would always be the poor among us. Poor people IMHO are created and kept to serve the few.

I checked a few of the links presented and the dates were strangely most recent. And yes this bunch made a pact with the dark side and now are bellyaching over what was plain as sunlight even among their very own, what these leftist minded liberals intended to do. They OWN this health care, it is their baby. I heard NONE of them demanding the Catholic Bohner to defund this abomination. Only whine over tiny segments that affect their particular thin skins.

I fully expect this same bunch of Bishops railing on Congress to give to illegals what they really have no authority to give. They have made their bed let them sleep with the dark side.

They serve a different master and they will reap what they have sown. I almost gasp over the pro-life claim when in fact the reality is like their dear prince stated, 'pills instead of procedures for old American grandmothers'. Oh and their dear leader's making Cain the saint of this healthcare seizure.

27 posted on 09/30/2013 12:26:53 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
I fully expect this same bunch of Bishops railing on Congress to give to illegals what they really have no authority to give.

You will be right, but Congress isn't the only outfit that has no authority on the amnesty question; the USCCB also has no moral authority to demand it. The catechism of their own church requires immigrants to respect the laws of their host country, something that clearly illegals do not do.

28 posted on 09/30/2013 12:32:03 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: Olog-hai

Catholic Church: Sun rises in the East!

Harold Camping contingent: HERESY! That’s not what the Holy Scripture says!

Dog bites man.


29 posted on 09/30/2013 12:34:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Catholic Church: Sun rises in the East! Harold Camping contingent: HERESY! That’s not what the Holy Scripture says! Dog bites man.

Church says tax them and the Supreme lawyer of the land says yeah!!!!

30 posted on 09/30/2013 12:49:17 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: FredZarguna

Well I have found the KnowNothing wing of the GOP.

We are a big tent.


31 posted on 09/30/2013 4:31:06 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: wonkowasright
Well I have found the KnowNothing wing of the GOP.

Whadja do? Shave?

Your question is preposterous. I tell you the position taken by the Hierarchy of the Roman Church is TOO NARROW and you want me to make it even narrower, by excluding Roman Catholics? Please. Grow up. Learn how to reason and debate.

32 posted on 09/30/2013 5:49:57 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: FredZarguna

LOL.


33 posted on 09/30/2013 6:56:13 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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