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Only Dems Can Delay Parts Of OCare. When Repubs Compromise With 1-Yr Delay They Are Told To Shove It
9/30/2013 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 09/30/2013 6:58:44 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Obama gives any delays that he wishes to and any time that he wants to by unilateral executive fiat. When Republicans offer up a delay that they wish to implement, they are told by Reid and other Dems that "It's (ObamaCare) the law."

And right after saying "It's the law," Obama/Dems feel no obligation to not offer up another delay if and when they feel like it.

Republicans are told that they aren't willing to compromise.

Guess what? They offer up a compromise - they go from wanting to defunding ObamaCare to voting to delay its implementation for one year. And what do they get in return? They are told that it is dead on arrival.

Compromise to Democrats is do what they say when they say it - and they get to delay any part that they wish to, whenever they wish to (along with susbsidies for Congress, Congressional staffers and federal employees).

If Republicans compromise and offer up a delay on ObamaCare - when they wanted to defund it - they are told to shove it - after they were told that they weren't willing to compromise --- and they DID IN FACT compromise.

Gov't shutdown? If so, Dems/Obama/Reid/Pelosi -- you built that!

At least Manchin, the head of the Teamsters, Baucus and other Dems spoke of caution on going forward with this.


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1 posted on 09/30/2013 6:58:45 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

What is this, Emperor Obama time?

He can by executive fiat delay any part that he wishes to, and right after that Reid says “It’s the law.”

But when the GOP tries to do anything...Suddenly “it’s the law again”....no touching it...What the heck?

What Reid is actually saying is Obama is the law, or it is THEIR (Democrats) law, and no Republican is allowed to try and change it.


2 posted on 09/30/2013 7:01:29 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Slavery was the law of the land once also..

and Democrats clunge onto that one too...


3 posted on 09/30/2013 7:01:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was also once the law of the land.


4 posted on 09/30/2013 7:04:50 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
They next need to send a bill up that requires all federal workers, elected officials, appointed officials, and judges must participate in Obama care. with no subsidies.
5 posted on 09/30/2013 7:04:52 AM PDT by MCF
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The Conservatives have to battle the RINO’s, The Media, AND the Dem’s AND the low information idiot voters. ARgh.


6 posted on 09/30/2013 7:05:07 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Suddenly “it’s the law again”....no touching it...What the heck?

..for the LAST 6 YEARS, anything that exposed the RATS WAS SUPPRESSED or DENIED by the press. Co-Conspirators.

7 posted on 09/30/2013 7:05:57 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
To Obama, compromise is weakness. You don't make any compromises with street thugs or smart negotiators until you sit down for a negotiation and both parties put something on the table.

The HOR already went too far. But if they stop here and don't give Obama anything more, it can be "point taken" and the medical equipment tax will be gone and the troops will be paid.

I wish these 'pubs were capable of getting "mad as hell" and not pandering their way to defeat.

8 posted on 09/30/2013 7:06:09 AM PDT by grania
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The better plan would be to push it forward with the caveat of no waivers and no delays, while stating, “It’s a bad law, we want it repealed, but in the mean time, we want those who are forceing in on everyone to live under it themselves.”


9 posted on 09/30/2013 7:06:11 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Republicans should re-introduce legislation requiring Congressional staffers and employer mandates.


10 posted on 09/30/2013 7:06:25 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Only Dems Can Delay Parts Of OCare. When Repubs Compromise With 1-Yr Delay They Are Told To Shove It

SO TRUE! Here's the proper headline for this EXTREMISM by Dingy Harry Reid ......

Defiant Senate Majority Leader Bitterly Clings to 'Trainwreck' Obamacare; Government Shutdown Looms

11 posted on 09/30/2013 7:06:49 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Actually, I don’t want the so-called Republicans to delay anything with respect to Obamacare if they cannot outright defund it in its entirety.

I want as many Americans to feel the brunt of Obama’s signature legislation’s oppressive policies as quickly as humanly possible - before the 2014 elections.

We’ve seen that while us conservatives out here can make weasely RINOs try their best at show-voting and lying it will not work. BUT! It is still not enough. We need pissed off middle class Democrats, pissed off Independents, in short a ‘pissed-off’ everybody to Tsunami the elections of 2014 and stop this bastard in his tracks until he is forced out of office. No more harm, no more progress (for his policies). As Martha Stewart would say “a good thing.”


12 posted on 09/30/2013 7:06:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Obama and the Dems have gone down a very dangerous road. The road toward tyranny. The law is what they say it is.


13 posted on 09/30/2013 7:07:51 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Tennessee Nana

Good Point. I can think of many others.

Immigration Laws for example.


14 posted on 09/30/2013 7:07:53 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Mind you, I’d offer the following choices: delay ALL of OgabeCare for a year. . . .or delay NONE of it. And no exemptions whatsoever.

After all, it IS the Law of the Land. . .


15 posted on 09/30/2013 7:10:36 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: SampleMan

Agree. That would be a better plan that rids the country of this unworkable and unaffordable piece of garbage.


16 posted on 09/30/2013 7:10:47 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Immigration laws are good for the people and good for the country...

Slavery is bad...and unConstitutional...

Obamacare is bad..and unConstitutional

but i repeat myself...

ObamaCare is slavery...


17 posted on 09/30/2013 7:15:13 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Starboard

I am disappointed nobody has brought up the fact that GOP negotiated a settlement of the illegal recess appointments. It is the Dems who have gone totalitarian my way or the highway on kenyancare and everything else.


18 posted on 09/30/2013 7:15:48 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Gaffer
+1

I certainly understood why Republicans wanted to defund Obamacare: it was the right thing to do.
I absolutely do not understand why Republicans would seek a delay so that Obamacare could be improved and implemented with a greater chance of success a year from now.

That strategy makes NO sense.

19 posted on 09/30/2013 7:19:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Exactly.. And the administration has not done very much to enforce the good laws.

Good Law or Bad Law matters not. Obama and the dems decide which to enforce and which to ignore.


20 posted on 09/30/2013 7:21:27 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If I held Boehner’s seat, I’d send the CR back with Obamacare not only defunded but wiped off the books. When they send it back, I’d do it again with all Executive Dept spending withheld, Air Force 1 grounded, IRS defunded and eliminated with a tax free year for all Americans, all staffers funding withheld with NO back pay when they come back, etc. When they send it back again, make it hurt worse and worse. All the while sending single dept funding bills, military first. Let them go on record shutting down the military funding with votes.

Meanwhile during the months and months long shutdown, America will have a chance to recover.

But, that’s just me. They wanna kill the country, I don’t.


21 posted on 09/30/2013 7:21:59 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

A conservative PAC should make a commercial. List all the groups 0 has excused rom the program. Then compare to the one the GOP has proposed THE INDIVIDUAL AMERICAN PEOPLE!


22 posted on 09/30/2013 7:23:26 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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Obama will negotiate with Iran, but not other branches of the American government. Why is this fact not being pointed out in every press conference?


23 posted on 09/30/2013 7:25:02 AM PDT by csivils
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama gives any delays that he wishes to and any time that he wants to by unilateral executive fiat unadulterated fascism.

There, fixed it.

24 posted on 09/30/2013 7:26:09 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The republicans should have stated that all waivers granted by POTUS are illegal and if the law is implemented it will be implemented fully with no exception, no waivers, and no subsidies for congressional or federal workers.


25 posted on 09/30/2013 7:27:37 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: ClearCase_guy
I don't either. Unless it is just the pathetic response to an overwhelmingly vehement conservative constituency that wants blood in the water on this.

However, since they (Republican leadership) are so totally and irreversibly disconnected from us out here in the real world, they think that a Pyrrhic victory like ‘delay it a year’ will do something good and make us shut up, wouldn't it?

In their mind, something - anything against Obama (at least what they think would be enough) should shut us up, right?.. They are just so damned clueless. I really have come to believe these people do not want to win against evil any more.

It's just too damned easy to sit up there in DC and placate, appease, lie and equivocate and keep their saunas, gyms, dining rooms, private banking, barbershops, credit/bank unions, parking spots (at work and airport when they have to make that dreaded trip back to lie to their constituents). Damn them....just damn them.

26 posted on 09/30/2013 7:34:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: All

"We're sick of those House peons sabotaging our perks, privileges and exemptions."

"Republican peasants!!"

"Obama has ruled that we Democrats are the Chosen Ones."

"We do what we want. Republicans can sit at the back of the bus."

27 posted on 09/30/2013 7:40:06 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Obama gives any delays that he wishes to and any time that he wants to by unilateral executive fiat.

If Ocare is law how can he do that ?.
Oh wait he’s a above the law democrat media is owned.


28 posted on 09/30/2013 8:12:57 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It’s been said a few different ways, but the title of your thread is a good way to put it, for our communication challenged RINOs that can’t seem to make the case!


29 posted on 09/30/2013 8:31:54 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

And, interestingly, now that he’s repeatedly said he refuses to negotiate, he’s announced he’ll be spending the afternoon calling members of Congress. Could there be another sequester that he’ll later claim wasn’t his idea in the works?


30 posted on 09/30/2013 12:56:18 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Tennessee Nana
So was Prohibition. And somehow that got changed, too.

-PJ

31 posted on 09/30/2013 12:58:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Best vanity of 2013!

Thanks Laissez-faire capitalist.


32 posted on 09/30/2013 4:49:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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