Skip to comments.Gallup: At Least 25% of Uninsured Americans Say They Will Stay That Way (under Obamacare)
Posted on 09/30/2013 2:38:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Twenty-five percent of uninsured Americans say they will pay a fine rather than purchase health insurance in 2014, according to a newly released Gallup Poll.
Another 65 percent said they are more likely to purchase health insurance than pay a fine. Under Obamacare, people may sign up for insurance on one of the new exchanges; or they may get coverage through their employer, from Medicaid or Medicare, or by purchasing a plan outside the exchanges.
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I wonder how many of those 65% planning to buy insurance actually know what it will cost?
“I will not comply”
I bet there will be more than 25%. The same irresponsible crowd will still show up at the ER and get their free healthcare. Obamacare was designed to help just a few, the politicians extorting votes.
The ones that sign up won’t pay and soon no one is filing taxes.
Obamacare will be like education - a big sham.
RE: At Least 25% of Uninsured Americans Say They Will Stay That Way (under Obamacare)
What if most of them don’t pay the Roberts Tax ( or as it was once called, a fine )?
Does the IRS have the resources to go after millions of them?
That is why it is connected to the IRS. You end up with an IRS bill for not getting it and they will go to bank accounts and property to seize fines.
Time to convert to Islam to become exempt... Crazy evil world IMO.
if I didn't have assets, and I was pretty healthy, I 'd take a shot at foregoing it....afterall, what'll they gonna do?...take blood from a turnup....
you can bet the inner city and illegals won't pay a cent more and they'll get the best my tax dollars can pay for...
All the IRS can do if you don’t pay the fine is withhold it from your income tax return if you are getting a refund
how about those peeps whose annual salary is less than 24K?? How are they able to afford an average of $320 per month?
That’s the question. They say they’ll “probably” buy insurance. Most of these people probably think it’s going to be free or cost very little. When they find out the truth everyone of them will change their minds.
Leading a horse to water does not assure it will drink.
The horse has to have come compelling reason to drink, say, like it’s thirsty?
Grabbing a hose, jamming it down the horse’s throat, and turning on the water full force may get water into the horse, but the collateral damage may not be rationalized.
The horse may very well resist. Even if the “delivery system”, i.e., the hose down the throat, is successfully put in place, the potential for great mischief remains. No way of telling how much water is actually delivered, or if it meets any real need on the part of the horse. The horse may regurgitate the water, draining into its lungs, drowning it, or its internal organs may burst, causing internal ruptures and death by internal bleeding.
Do not start vast projects with half-vast ideas.
You are correct. Yet many here don’t know that.
Actually I believe that the IRS can withhold the Roberts Tax from you tax refund but that is their only recourse, no liens or the like.
So will the subsidies be designed to only cover the premiums of the cheapest plans ?
That has always been my thought that obamacare has been about keeping the earned income credit money
The IRS is prohibited from their usual Stasi tactics for non-payment of taxes. It's in the law:
In the Slate article, they cite the law:
[The Health and Human Services secretary] shall not file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty or levy on any such property with respect to such failure.
I think the only way that people will have to pay the penalty is if they file for a tax refund. The penalty will be deducted from that. But, you can easily adjust your withholding so you never have a refund.
If that is for a family, they likely would be on medicaid
No liens or the like yet.
Obaba, Reid & Pelosi shoved this bill thru Congress without Republican votes.
Then Roberts declared it law in the Supreme Court & called it a tax.
IF this law (tax) is to apply to everyone, then there can be NO exemptions—no people who get to do as they wish on their own.
That includes all the many companies that Obama- by himself- has declared exempt. He should have no such authority.
That includes ALL of Congress & all of Federal employees.
Either it applies to all or it applies to none.
There can be no CHERRY picking of participants.
Telling those of us who earn very little that we can qualify for tax credits is another dodge-—
I don’t earn enough money to even have to file a tax return.
WHAT TAX CREDITS!!!!???
This pack of lies & burdensome rules has to come to a complete halt.
There was nothing wrong with the health care this country had before Obama came on the scene with his controlling attitude.
Obama is plain out & out NATIONALIZING the health system of the USA.
How come no one wants to use those words???
The main groups who were abusing the emergency rooms are the illegals & the gang members who are here because Pelosi, Reid & Obama didn’t close our borders & because the Just Us department won’t go after the gangs.
Another tidbit of information no one wants to say out loud.
There’s going to be a substantial subsidy for the low-wage worker. I wrote my congresscritter about defunding it & his response that there is a built-in subsidy at 4 times the poverty level, which I think is $44k. All these folks will get Obamacare for free or very nearly so, care of the hard work of others.
Doing my best to think outside of the box, here.
We can sell our houses and rent, not keep money in the banks, make sure we do not have “tax” refunds.
We can even go so far as to wear funny clothing, and teach our children in community schools, declaring ourselves converts to the Amish way of life.
Granted the last is a bit hyperbolic, but creative thinking is the best way to revolt, while remaining lawful.
Those of us who see what is happening can consider it a training period, because the entire house of fiat is going to be falling down, and we will eventually be living that way anyhow.
So you trust that an IRS who just fixed an election by harassing Tea Party groups, will not go after these Tax Felons eventually ?
It may create an underground economy for certain.
I wonder how many of those 65% planning to buy insurance actually know what it will cost?”
Only what they are told - that it will cost less than their cell phone bill. What they don’t think about on their own is that they are going to have deductibles and co-pays.
Cell phone bills can be pretty inexpensive, particularly if you just want to use them for an occasional emergency phone. Insurance can also be pretty inexpensive, particularly if you don’t ever plan on seeing a doctor, buying meds or going to the hospital.
I just cited the law.
Do you really think the IRS won't follow a law written exclusively by Democrats?
Yup, they are going to find quickly that even if insurance is available at that price (maybe for a young single person), the out-of-pocket expenses will be significant before it starts to pay any benefits.
This is why I think the Republicans are fumbling away this issue by trying to "compromise". They should just let it take effect, and then campaign loudly for the next 12 months: we tried to warn you, and we tried to prevent it. You want to do something about it? Vote for us in November.
The IRS now has a history of breaking laws. Just ask Lois Lerner.
Nobody will “buy” insurance. There will be millions however who will get insurance and you and I will ay for it while paying increasing premiums and receiving less care and more government intrusion.
So much for the prohibited tactics.
Next, you'll be quoting Art Bell.
No way I believe the Government is going to say, “OK, you don't want to pay, that's fine.”