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Worst Drug in Arizona: Meth, Bath Salts, or Krokodil?
Phoenix Times ^ | Tue., Oct. 1 2013 | Tue., Oct. 1 2013

Posted on 10/01/2013 11:44:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A local poison-control center reported what appears to be the first reported cases of people using the drug "Krokodil" in the country.

The drug, which apparently gets its name from the appearance many of its users get, due to sores, is described as a "moonshine" version of heroin.

VICE did a video report on the drug, including two Russian brothers who are absolutely, positively fried from using the stuff for a year.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Local News
KEYWORDS: krokodil

1 posted on 10/01/2013 11:44:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Go for the Mix Cocktail Krokethalt. You’ll never look back.


2 posted on 10/01/2013 11:50:21 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: nickcarraway

Under libertarianism it doesn’t matter, a drug is a drug, a recipe is a recipe, a new drug cocktail invention is free to be marketed and advertised.


3 posted on 10/01/2013 11:52:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

Even on the candy aisle, alco-pops move over, here comes Choco-Meth


4 posted on 10/01/2013 11:54:09 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: nickcarraway

I would hate to see anyone who speedballs on meth and krokodil.


5 posted on 10/01/2013 11:56:03 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: nickcarraway; GOPsterinMA

No blue meth?

I’ve never heard of Krokodil.


6 posted on 10/01/2013 11:59:09 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: ansel12

Under libertarianism it doesn’t matter, a drug is a drug, a recipe is a recipe, a new drug cocktail invention is free to be marketed and advertised.

At least those who are stupid enough to ruin their lives on drugs don’t get bailed out time after time by a “compassionate government” that uses the druggies addiction to federal benefits for their votes..

The dumb drug users die in the damn gutter where they were supposed to all along.


7 posted on 10/01/2013 11:59:49 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

As sweet and caring as your hopes are, the reality is that druggies vote for more government and liberalism, live for years, collect and consume vast amounts of tax dollars, have children, families and make up large percentages of very broken and destructive and criminal creating but politically important communities that help the left dominate politics in a city and state.

They don’t just discover drugs and then keel over and die.


8 posted on 10/02/2013 12:07:37 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: All

I doubt this is being used in the US as Codeine isn’t OTC like in Russia and with its close proximity to the Mexican border, there is probably a lot of Black Tar for cheap in AZ


9 posted on 10/02/2013 12:07:45 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Ask the MSM about Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. Observe the subsequent blank stares.)
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To: GraceG

At least those who are stupid enough to ruin their lives on drugs don’t get bailed out time after time by a “compassionate government” that uses the druggies addiction to federal benefits for their votes


There are druggies smart enough to have the taxpayer support them so they can be high on drugs.


10 posted on 10/02/2013 12:10:05 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: nickcarraway

Using what?


11 posted on 10/02/2013 12:12:27 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: ansel12

As sweet and caring as your hopes are, the reality is that druggies vote for more government and liberalism, live for years, collect and consume vast amounts of tax dollars, have children, families and make up large percentages of very broken and destructive and criminal creating but politically important communities that help the left dominate politics in a city and state.

They don’t just discover drugs and then keel over and die.

If the government really wanted to stop all drug abuse of illegal narcotics and what not there is simple solution to it....

Step 1.

Run a PSA saying Drugs ARE LITERALLY POISON AND YOU WILL DIE IF YOU TAKE THEM.

Step 2. Covertly intercept drug shipments and place any one of several poisons in every shipment you intercept.

Step 3.

Run another PSA that explains that Drugs are poisons because the shipments are covertly intercepted and poisoned with several rotating poison types in them BY THE GOVERNMENT.

Drug use will either immediately drop to near zero levels in that it is not a problem no more. or the problem will solve itself within 10 years...

No need for for no-knock raids or any of that crap that steals liberty... Just an actual war on drugs by poisoning the drugs themselves and cleaning the gene pool for those dumb enough to wade to the deep dangerous area of the pool.

Problem Solved!


12 posted on 10/02/2013 12:19:30 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Yeah, real deep.


13 posted on 10/02/2013 12:22:55 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12
Would you care to enumerate the loss to our culture of a tweeker who, knowing what will happen when he injects himself with a mixture of Red Phosphorus and Codeine, rots himself to death?

I fail to see why anyone with a coldly logical intellect should care. These worthless life forms are even more disposable than Democrats. At least they are killing themselves, rather than seeking some emotional justification for the governmental murder of anyone who doubts the Revealed Truth of Global Warming, or Electric Cars, or Alar, or Radon Gas, or whatever else is the current fad of the week.

14 posted on 10/02/2013 12:26:49 AM PDT by jonascord (Hurrah for the Bonny Blue Flag that bears a Single Star!)
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To: jonascord

Read post 8 for the more common reality.

If drugs killed liberals then they wouldn’t control the cities and the drug awash areas would not be baby factories for more liberal voters.


15 posted on 10/02/2013 12:34:56 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12
In europe they are starting to put down miserable people.
16 posted on 10/02/2013 12:42:57 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: nickcarraway

Heisenberg Brand Blue Meth.


17 posted on 10/02/2013 12:51:40 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Euthanized for terminal sexual confusion:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/10346616/Belgian-killed-by-euthanasia-after-a-botched-sex-change-operation.html


18 posted on 10/02/2013 12:54:09 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Amazing.

For me it was barely over 40 years ago when I was telling friends that it won’t be the sound of right wing hobnailed boots coming up the stairs to take us away, it will be the sound of the left’s sandals coming up those stairs.

Back then the point was clear, I hope that most still get the meaning although it doesn’t carry the sharpness that it did in 1971 hobnailed boots was the phrase for republicans and conservatives and sandals (or some other shoe, I can’t remember) represented the gentle caring left, I figured out even when I was young that their caring would lead to ever increasing efficiency in their “caring”.


19 posted on 10/02/2013 12:56:04 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: nickcarraway

McCainidyle


20 posted on 10/02/2013 1:07:54 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Impy
I’ve never heard of Krokodil.

It was an old Soviet humor magazine: Крокодил

"After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the magazine was discontinued. It was reinstated in 2005 in Russia, issued monthly, headquartered in Moscow, and with editor-in-chief Sergei Mostovshchikov. The reinstated version is deliberately printed on old Soviet-style paper."

More recently, it has become the street moniker of Desomorphine, a nasty derivative of morphine, which is working to prove out Darwin's theory of natural selection among the two-legged critters.

21 posted on 10/02/2013 1:18:52 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: nickcarraway

Cocaine is out, mccaine is the new drug of choice in Arizona.


22 posted on 10/02/2013 1:26:14 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: cynwoody; GOPsterinMA; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale

There sure are a lot of different opioids you rarely hear about.

” It’s named for the crocodile-like look it gives users’ rotting skin.”

Wow. Figures it’s popular in Russia.


23 posted on 10/02/2013 1:59:08 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: nickcarraway

Drugs need to kill those that take them... they need to work quickly to save society from the evil and carnage that those that do drugs foment. Is that harsh?


24 posted on 10/02/2013 4:18:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: nickcarraway

I can’t figure out how the heck someone came up with the recipe for that stuff in the first place.....gasoline as an ingredient???


25 posted on 10/02/2013 4:23:35 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Drugs need to kill those that take them... they need to work quickly to save society from the evil and carnage that those that do drugs foment. Is that harsh?

I can understand the sentiment, but it doesn't seem very realistic. How's an oxycodone pill supposed to know if it's the one that just made the pain stop, or the one that got the user high?

26 posted on 10/02/2013 4:28:31 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

When someone takes 10 a day like a dead son of a friend of mine did.


27 posted on 10/02/2013 4:58:07 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Didn’t work on Rush Limbaugh, though.


28 posted on 10/02/2013 5:28:24 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Walter White? Probably not up to his standards.


29 posted on 10/02/2013 5:39:58 AM PDT by az wildkitten (8 years 'til I retire)
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To: nickcarraway; Charles Henrickson

Krokodil was also the name of the HUGE circulation humor magazine in the old Soviet Union. Since it was a humor magazine, it was allowed a bit more latitude than other periodicals in presenting subtle jabs at their system. In the final couple of years the subtle humor became more overt as things opened up. It was during that time that they published my humor articles over there. Some of the Krokodil crew visited the USA in 1990 when I met them and the ironic thing is the liberal audience they were addressing became upset that they did NOT like socialism/communism. Anyway, Krokodil ceased publication at about the time the Soviet Union fell the following year.


30 posted on 10/02/2013 5:57:09 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: cynwoody

Glad you posted this info about Krokodil in the Soviet Union. BTW, in addition to the crew from Krokodil I also met the Estonian editor of Pikker which was their own humor magazine. Reason why I remember is I told a funny story about an Estonian friend of mine who had trouble color coordinating his clothes when he came to America from Estonia.


31 posted on 10/02/2013 6:00:46 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: tacticalogic

I am happy Rush survived. I just have no patience for those that abuse society because they cannot handle the drugs that they do. Rush never harmed anyone... most of these street thugs would kill you for a casio watch.


32 posted on 10/02/2013 6:33:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Impy
I’ve never heard of Krokodil.

About a year ago I saw an article on this stuff, it comes out of Russia I think. They made it sound like the absolute worst. It does more damage to the human body than anything. They showed addicts with their jaws just gone, still using (until they inevitably just die).

33 posted on 10/02/2013 6:49:13 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: nickcarraway

RU-486; Somebody almost always dies.


34 posted on 10/02/2013 7:24:11 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Yeah science, b1tch!


35 posted on 10/02/2013 8:19:50 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Idiocracy is non-fiction.)
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To: PJ-Comix
Glad you posted this info about Krokodil in the Soviet Union.

Back in the 2000's, I recall, there was another Russian humor magazine, the Exile, published in English by expatriate Americans living in Moscow. I never saw a dead-tree copy, but the website was a hoot, especially War Nerd's columns. In 2008, it appears, they wore out their welcome with the FSB and ceased publication.

36 posted on 10/02/2013 12:15:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: nickcarraway

It would have to be meth. Not that many actually do bath salts. And krokodile is the latest “oh this horrible thing druggies are doing” new scare that in the end turns out to be a bunch of BS.


37 posted on 10/02/2013 12:17:38 PM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: nickcarraway

Meth 32.33%

Bath salts 8.62%

Krokodil 37.07%

Eh, they’re all pretty good to me 21.98%

It’s a cryin shame that these drugs don’t kill the users after the third useage. I have 0-ZERO-0% pity for drug users who screw up by taking mind benders then expect me to pay for their rehab, penal sentencing and medical treatment for the rest of their life.


38 posted on 10/02/2013 12:46:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: Impy; cynwoody; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale

I prefer huffing solvents or sniffing cans of Cheese Wiz or Cool Whip, chased with bourbon.


39 posted on 10/02/2013 5:42:53 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; randita; Sun; LdSentinal; Viennacon

There is so much meth in the midwest, we could use it all open up ski resorts. This is in spite of law enforcement making it a top priority.


40 posted on 10/03/2013 3:43:01 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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