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Were headed for a Dalton Minimum, says climate guru
iceagenow ^ | 10/7/2013 | Robert

Posted on 10/07/2013 7:41:51 PM PDT by Signalman

“The government is preparing for warming, which is outrageous.” Low sunspot activity means “the cooling will continue at least until 2030.”

Last week, the IPCC reported it was 95 percent certain that climate change was the result of human activity, specifically the burning of fossil fuels that emit “greenhouse gases,” says this article on WND.

“That’s the result that they get when you premeditate your science,” said Dr. Tim Ball, former professor of climatology at the University of Winnipeg.

“The temperature is going down and has for 17 years while carbon dioxide increases,” Ball said.

The IPCC and other scientists have branded this as a “pause” in climate change. Ball said that characterization implies that temperatures are temporarily holding steady and will inevitably rise again soon. He said that conclusion is dead wrong.

Cooling trend will continue for years to come

Why? “The sun is causing the cooling,” said Ball. “We’re heading toward what occurred around the year 1800. It was called the Dalton Minimum of low sunspot activities,” he explained. “We certainly are down to that in number of sunspots this year. That means the cooling will continue at least until 2030 and yet the government is preparing for warming, which is outrageous.”

“Some people think that this cycle of sunspot activity and global cooling will take us down to as cold as it was around 1680, which was the nadir of the Little Ice Age,” Ball added.

The southern hemisphere has been cooling for some time, said Ball. In fact, new reports from the National Snow and Ice Data Center suggest Antarctic ice levels are at record highs.

However, he believes the clinching evidence comes from the Arctic Circle.

“This was the year that even one scientist at NASA predicted that the Arctic ice in the summer would be gone completely,” he said. “Well, there’s 60 percent more ice this year than last year and the reason is because of the cooling sun and the cooling temperatures.”

The world is lucky to have a scientist as courageous as Dr. Ball, a scientist who dares to stand up and tell the truth.

See Dr. Ball’s website: http://drtimball.com/


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: dalton; globalwarming; minimum
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1 posted on 10/07/2013 7:41:51 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

NWS predicts 6 inches of snow or more above 6,000 ft in the central Sierra Nevada Wednesday night.


2 posted on 10/07/2013 7:45:00 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Signalman

Didn’t some braindead Hollyweird celebrity say just the other day that “climate change” was going to kill us all by 2030?


3 posted on 10/07/2013 7:45:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: Signalman

Break out the foul weather gear.


4 posted on 10/07/2013 7:47:17 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Didn’t some braindead Hollyweird celebrity say just the other day...

Could you narrow it down a little bit for me? That's a very large pool of people.
5 posted on 10/07/2013 7:47:21 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Brain dead celebrity?

Could be most anyone in Hollywood or nyc


6 posted on 10/07/2013 7:47:59 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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"Some people think that this cycle of sunspot activity and global cooling will take us down to as cold as it was around 1680"

It's going to get a lot tougher for the homeless and stray cats.

7 posted on 10/07/2013 7:48:43 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

OMG!!!

it’s Oct 7 and I had to put on longpants for the first time in .....months!


8 posted on 10/07/2013 7:48:56 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48
"it’s Oct 7 and I had to put on longpants for the first time in .....months!"

I am here standing beside myself in total wonder. October? Long Pants? How can this be?

9 posted on 10/07/2013 7:50:52 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Signalman
It's time to indict Al Gore and bring him to justice.

I want him banished to northern Canada with a Speedo and a tube of Coppertone.

10 posted on 10/07/2013 7:51:13 PM PDT by stboz
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Bob Geldorf or however you spell it.


11 posted on 10/07/2013 7:53:29 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Signalman
al gore photo: Al Gore is Gangster al-gore-is-gangster.jpg
12 posted on 10/07/2013 7:53:44 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Signalman

Mini Ice Age ? the E.P.A. is preventing people from buying wood stoves.


13 posted on 10/07/2013 7:54:17 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Signalman

Saying we’re “heading for a Dalton minimum” is like saying we’re heading for a World War II. It’s a specific, named event in the past. We may very well be heading toward a solar minimum, but heading for a “Dalton” minimum is nonsensical.


14 posted on 10/07/2013 7:54:58 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Enterprise

Eat the cat and make a fur coat.


15 posted on 10/07/2013 7:55:17 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: American Constitutionalist

the E.P.A. is preventing people from buying wood stoves.


How so?

{I don’t doubt it a bit}.


16 posted on 10/07/2013 7:56:27 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: IMR 4350

There ya go! I guess I was wrong about the Hollyweird part. However, they’re all the same. Celebrity is just a polite way of saying, liberal loon.


17 posted on 10/07/2013 7:57:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Bob Geldoff, IIRC.


18 posted on 10/07/2013 7:58:33 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: xjcsa
Saying we’re “heading for a Dalton minimum” is like saying we’re heading for a World War II. It’s a specific, named event in the past.

Fine. Call it the Algore Minimum if you like. I think that would be perfect, don't you?

19 posted on 10/07/2013 8:05:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Signalman

Any climate change is bad climate change, and all climate change is a result of whatever economic activity is pissing off the lefties on any given afternoon.


20 posted on 10/07/2013 8:07:19 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: laplata

This is probanly what he’s talking about

Wood Stove Ban Made Universal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3073735/posts


21 posted on 10/07/2013 8:09:52 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: xjcsa

There is nothing nonsensical about making reference to a comparative event in the past when you have no existing event in the future to which the comparison can be made.


22 posted on 10/07/2013 8:11:22 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
they’re all the same. Celebrity is just a polite way of saying, liberal loon.

Well, not all celebs are liberal loons...



23 posted on 10/07/2013 8:11:46 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: xjcsa

From what little I understand about the various minimums, They use the names of the most well-known to describe the severity of upcoming minimums. So a “Dalton” is less severe than a “Maunder”.


24 posted on 10/07/2013 8:14:04 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Signalman
“This was the year that even one scientist at NASA predicted that the Arctic ice in the summer would be gone completely,” he said.

Hmmmmm. Wonder which idiot that was?

25 posted on 10/07/2013 8:21:30 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Signalman

When I was very active, from age 14, in chasing DX (foreign countries) on ham radio, I lived and died by the 11 yr sunspot cycles. The very best were in the late 50s. There were some nights when the entire world was open at the same time. A few watts would go around the world. I pretty much quit when I made it to the ARRL’s DXCC top of the honor roll. DE W4EX


26 posted on 10/07/2013 8:22:07 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: stboz

It’s time to indict Al Gore and bring him to justice.

I want him banished to northern Canada with a Speedo and a tube of Coppertone.

______________________________

You are sick man! Sick!


27 posted on 10/07/2013 8:24:31 PM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Signalman
“The temperature is going down and has for 17 years while carbon dioxide increases,”

The more carbon dioxide produced, the more plants have to feed on to produce oxygen, foods, building materials and fireplace logs.

28 posted on 10/07/2013 8:25:46 PM PDT by OldNavyVet ("Learn from science that you must doubt the experts" ... Richard Feynman)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Didn’t some braindead Hollyweird celebrity say just the other day that “climate change” was going to kill us all by 2030?

And the sad fact is, if we do enter a mini ice age, many will die because the US/EURO government has been prepping the wrong way. Of course that bozo celebrity drank all the global warming koolaid and licked the punch bowl clean. So he was with the US/EURO governments. Some of these old hippies really did not age well. They actually became their own worse enemies.

29 posted on 10/07/2013 8:27:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Signalman

It would be kewl to be the guru of cool!


30 posted on 10/07/2013 8:46:58 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: xjcsa

We just need a name to blame it on. Dalton is a good one!


31 posted on 10/07/2013 8:48:07 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: stboz
and a tube of Coppertone.

Or a tube of something...he is a crazed sex-poodle after all.

32 posted on 10/07/2013 8:56:04 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Whatever anyone says the weather is going to be. You can be sure it’s going to be the opposite of that.


33 posted on 10/07/2013 9:02:22 PM PDT by shineon (.)
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To: Signalman

And how, exactly, is this news supposed to help the Democrats and the global communists extract trillions of dollars, forever, in new energy taxes from Americans so that it may be skimmed and “redistributed” to third world pisspots? Well?


34 posted on 10/07/2013 9:03:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I don’t even know why the bastards get paid. All they would need to do is announce:

“Hey everybody, here’s the doppler radar weather map...take a look at what’s coming our way.”

In fact they could just have some cheap bimbo do it and have her do it just for ratings.


35 posted on 10/07/2013 9:07:55 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: volunbeer; stboz

“You are sick man! Sick!”
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errr, you forgot the /s tag.


36 posted on 10/07/2013 9:19:58 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Signalman
Welcome King Barack "Canute" Obama the Great.....

...Obama issues an Executive Order to the Sun...

....to increase it's magnetic field....

and make a good crop of sunspots before elections in 2016....

(PhysOrg.com) -- Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2016 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades.

The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years.

Good luck surviving with no electricity and GE modified seeds.

37 posted on 10/07/2013 9:26:06 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: AlexW; stboz

Sorry - I would rather see a Helen Thomas centerfold than Jabba the Enviroslut in a speedo.

It was a bad mental image, but no harm intended towards stboz


38 posted on 10/07/2013 9:31:57 PM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: WhiskeyX

WTF?


39 posted on 10/07/2013 10:53:52 PM PDT by pelican001
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To: xjcsa

>> but heading for a “Dalton” minimum is nonsensical.

You can’t single out “Dalton”. You must quote both terms “Dalton Minimum” given the independent meaning of Dalton’s law.


40 posted on 10/07/2013 11:15:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: WhiskeyX

>> There is nothing nonsensical about making reference to a comparative event in the past when you have no existing event in the future to which the comparison can be made.

If the event to be compared hasn’t occurred, the historical event would only be potentially comparative rendering the assertion of a nonsensical comparison comparatively relevant.


41 posted on 10/07/2013 11:22:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

I hate wearing long pants in winter or anytime.....


42 posted on 10/07/2013 11:45:37 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings)
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To: Gene Eric

Only to the irrational living in a fantasyland.


43 posted on 10/07/2013 11:53:41 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: WhiskeyX

It would be irrational to compare one’s first child to the second that has to be conceived. And for the fugly, it would likely be a fantasy to refer to the unlikely one night stand as a comparative event.


44 posted on 10/08/2013 12:11:01 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: spokeshave

Good luck surviving with no electricity and GE modified seeds.

...or IOW coal, and heritage seeds will be of some importance in the future. Coal miners will certainly appreciate the lift from pariah to prince. Hopefully we will not have forgotten how to use coal to produce energy.


45 posted on 10/08/2013 12:44:47 AM PDT by wita
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To: Signalman

46 posted on 10/08/2013 4:50:20 AM PDT by Oratam (Thank you St. Jude!)
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To: volunbeer
Sorry - I would rather see a Helen Thomas centerfold than Jabba the Enviroslut in a speedo.

Rumor has it JFK hit it.

47 posted on 10/08/2013 4:56:40 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Signalman

Year Without a Summer

The Year Without a Summer (also known as the Poverty Year, The Summer that Never Was, Year There Was No Summer, and Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death[1]) was 1816, in which severe summer climate abnormalities caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1.3 °F),[2] resulting in major food shortages across the Northern Hemisphere.[3][4] It is believed that the anomaly was caused by a combination of a historic low in solar activity with a volcanic winter event, the latter caused by a succession of major volcanic eruptions capped by the 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora, in the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), the largest known eruption in over 1,300 years. The Little Ice Age, then in its concluding decades, may also have been a factor.

48 posted on 10/08/2013 4:58:42 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Signalman

http://www.weather.com/news/science/environment/obama-climate-advisor-stepping-down-20131007

Obama Climate Advisor Stepping Down

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama’s top adviser on environmental and climate issues is leaving.

Heather Zichal has been advising Obama for five years and is the architect of his climate change plan. She also advises Obama on energy issues.

Zichal plans to leave the White House within a few weeks. The White House hasn’t announced who will replace her.

But her departure comes at a key time for Obama’s climate plan. The Environmental Protection Agency is moving ahead with emissions limits for new and existing carbon plants to curb greenhouse gases.

Obama’s chief of staff, Denis McDonough, says the White House will keep pressing ahead on efforts to reduce carbon dioxide pollution and prepare communities for the effects of climate change.


49 posted on 10/08/2013 5:47:44 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Gene Eric

That is a false analogy used as a strawman argument. Try again.


50 posted on 10/08/2013 6:52:43 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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