Skip to comments.Scientists wake up to meteor threat ancient Greeks knew about 2500 years ago
Posted on 10/08/2013 7:50:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin
60 Minutes news program ran a segment entitled "Dangerous game of 'cosmic roulette'?" This segment highlighted the NASA program aimed at finding and tracking asteroids whose orbits cross Earth's thus placing them on a collision course with us. The NASA administrators at first bragged about how they knew with confidence about 95% of all the "major" threats to our planet and were currently tracking these threats. These administrators were clearly trying to convey to the public an attitude of "don't worry, we have it all under control."
Yet as with most statements by government bureaucrats the devil is in the details. The "major" threats were defined as asteroids large enough to destroy all life on Earth. Thus asteroids large enough to merely wipe out a continent and destroy "life as we know it" were simply not being tracked yet. And asteroids large enough to wipe out a major metropolitan area were also not being tracked. And meteors the size of the one that blew up over Russia earlier this year were also not being tracked. And when confronted on these facts the NASA administrators were forced to concede the point that we could get hit tomorrow by a devastating asteroid without any warning whatsoever.
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
“There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes; the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes.
“There is a story, which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Phaethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his fathers chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt. Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals;...
“Whereas just when you and other nations are beginning to be provided with letters and the other requisites of civilized life, after the usual interval, the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and so you have to begin all over again like children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times...
The Earth orbits the Sun. The Sun orbits the galactic center which takes about 250 million years. Ever wonder what the Earth encounters during that time? I doubt NASA does either.
For extra credit, how does that affect climate?
Wow, great quote. I’d never read it before. It’s interesting how both the devil and liberals long to destroy history and the knowledge of it or maybe it’s not interesting, but expected.
What book was this in?
I will remind all gentle readers that, once the Ark had landed back on solid ground, the Lord did promise Noah that He would never again destroy the world by water.
Didn’t say a thing about fire. 8<)
Pol Pot went on an extermination spree of the educated people.
I got it from the article at the link.
It's already happened at least six times, as a conservative estimate.
Indeed. The duck dynasty survives. The kardashians...not so much.
What would happen to Earth if a fairly large meteor hit the Moon ?
It depends on the size and rate of the meteor. Quite possibly one hell of a high tide.
Or no more tide...
We could get pelted with ejecta, too.
Also left out in this is if they know about an asteroid, what can they do about it? Nothing.
True. Pretty much not a whole lot of not good.
Didn’t mention this one, probably politically incorrect:
Genesis 19:4 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the Lord:
28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.
29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
Oh, well of course. But I meant, what can NASA do about it?
Homer had the listed cities [including the City of Pigeons?]that contributed troops and ships to the Trojan War arranged as the points of a Maltese Cross which could only be seen from space. How did he know that? Some of the cities` remains have been discovered right where Homer said they were via satellite photos...hmmmmm
We would be in Thundarr the Barbarian times.
Am I the only one who thought (and still thinks) that the meteor over Russia was actually part of or might have been totally in fact that asteroid that was set to make it’s closest approach to Earth ever that day?
lethal lake natron calcifies animals into stone-like corpses
Signs Plato though the Earth had technology countless times, only to be dust upon dust and forever lost. Makes sense. One would have to surmise, we have been here or similar to here before; countless times.
My vote is part of but do not know for certain. There are many masses of objects which do have some gravitational forces acting upon each of those objects traveling close or rather closely together. My vote is part of but still not certain. Even today scientists have difficulty describing gravity and gravitation forces in relation to space and time. Einstein may have come the closest to understanding the relationship of gravity to time and space but is still an unknown (imho), and to tell you the truth ... I’m the dumbest rock in the box.
Have been reading reports of many brilliant observed fly ins lately. One in NY State, another out West (if am recalling correctly) Colorado and have been others have forgotten, am certain. Certainly is a lot of rock floating around out there. Am remembering something from last year regarding two objects (quite large) headed in from the southern area of sky. Have not been back to check on those objects and that report may have been a hoax. When they come in though, am agreed they are spectacular! Remember one coming in when was about nine years old and living on the East Coast. Lit up the outside as if it was day. WoW! What a rush! Was near nine p.m. but the light was, as you said spectacular from the object passing in the sky.
I don’t know, I’m trying to discover that myself. I’ve never read Plato but after a taste— I want more.
I think I’m going to start here:
These administrators were clearly trying to convey to the public an attitude of “don’t worry, we have it all under control.”
Of course they were. It’s like how they give those “in-flight safety” speeches every time you fly on an airplane. They say you can use your seat cushion in the event of a “water landing”, but there has never been a “water landing” of a jumbo jet where anyone survived to worry about drowning. It’s more to keep you from worrying than anything else.
An asteroid hitting Earth is a threat that, most likely, nobody is going to be able to predict, much less do anything about. So the best they can do is pretend like they have a plan, so we won’t worry about something out of our control.
We’re thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go ‘round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
We have ISON incoming. There is a possibility it is not just a single object, but could be a cloud of stuff. No doubt it’s close approach to the sun will manage to bust a few pieces lose...
And I have been trying to find orbital Java diagrams, as best as I can determine, Earth will pass DIRECTLY through it’s outgoing debris field in January.
Happy New Year!!
Have not been keeping up with ISON and was unaware. Those comets are real bruisers. The one which hit Jupiter made a hole the size of nearly Earth if not as large as Earth. Happy New Year, djf! May our homes dodge another bullet from space. Would surmise we have been extremely lucky for a long long time. Don’t know when our time will be up but it is for certain the cosmic universe holds wonders we humans will never understand and if we do ever become close to knowing or understanding anything those cosmic bullets may come in droves. The demons like throwing things ... LOL.
Very accurate maps were made centuries before it was possible to see the Earth from Space. There is no mystery here.
My most recent comet viewing was about twenty years ago. May have been named HaleBop or something similar; truth is cannot remember. Think there was a cult that killed themselves that made the news with that one (HaleBop). This one (the comet) was about a million to two million miles out but was about one sixth the size of the moon when being viewed for several nights running. This comet was traveling from east to west. Spectacular and similar in size to the one which recently was viewed from Australia. Is the comet which was viewed from Australia ISON? Is your photo posted a view of ISON?
No, that’s Comet Bennet from 1969-1970
The best night viewing it, the head was right on the horizon, and the tail stretched more than halfway to the zenith! And it was quite dark that morning.
But hey, what do I know? I was just a fifteen yr old kid with a 2 1/12 inch el cheapoe refractor telescope!
Funny how some times all it takes is simple things, and yur in heaven, eh?
Thanks for posting this. I missed this when it was on TV. I am shocked that NASA etc have been basically lying for years about what exactly they are tracking. Anything that can wipe out life (or at least us) on a continent would pretty much destroy most of humanity from after effects. I guess I was under the impression they were watching more than they are. Helps to explain what happened recently when Russia got hit on same day they were paying attention to the near miss (17000 miles or whatever it was).
yep ... the views from the refractor telescope kept me up many a night enjoying the sky. Those were the times. Could almost hear the humming of space. Maybe there was an up late bee buzzing around me creating the humming sound but wow ... full agreement was viewing heaven or the heavens. The movements, in the sky, were always a fascination. Nothing would stay still .... LOL.
I think “Game of Thrones” describes the times before some catastrophic event.
Could be ... since am from old school was always taught ... anything is possible. Used to love a saying related to old school that went like this ... For the possible will need only the next moment, for the impossible will require twenty four hours.
Shoemaker-Levy 9 made lots of holes.
Heaven's Gate; March, 97. Hale-Bopp comet.
Refractor scopes are actually the best type for observing planets because they produce the sharpest images. The weakness with reflectors is that the light path is interupted by the mirrors; their only advantage is that it’s easier and cheaper to scale up a reflector to gather more light which is why they’re preferred for deep-space observing.
you folks are highly intelligent ... as I said upthread ... I’m the dumbest rock in the box. Not you folks. Thank You!
Wow .. this looks to be possible. Maybe should be worried about the white coat guys coming to get me? Are they waiters at Milliways?