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Daily Mail ^ | 10/9/13 | Mark Duell

Posted on 10/09/2013 10:11:51 AM PDT by Kartographer

They are more commonly seen being transported on ships and at ports around the world. But with the addition of flatscreen TVs, en-suite bathrooms and air conditioning, these shipping containers are now being billed as a solution to London’s housing crisis.

The containers come from China and are transformed into studio apartments in Britain which can be stacked on top of each other - and are available to rent for only £75 a week.

The scheme looks set to take off after the council granted planning permission to the Forest Young Man's Christian Association (YMCA) to establish two sites in Waltham Forest, north-east London.

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From the outside: The YMCA have unveiled a revolutionary housing scheme at their branch at Waltham Forest in north-east London using converted shipping containers to house young people on low incomes
1 posted on 10/09/2013 10:11:51 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

Would make a easy to build and study BOL.


2 posted on 10/09/2013 10:12:42 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Relatively bulletproof, and depending on the furnishings, darned near fireproof. Structurally strong enough to NOT collapse during earth tremors or earth movement, and an ultimate fortress in serious times of anarchy or civil unrest.

And it is entirely modular.


3 posted on 10/09/2013 10:22:42 AM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: Kartographer

Wow

A neighborhood of BarryVilles

Imagine thousands of them stuffed together, sweltering in the hot sun as the wretched inhabitants struggle to pay taxes, Obamacare rates, and sky high utility rates fluffed up by Climate Change penalties.

Heaven on Earth, right?

Socialism in a box.


4 posted on 10/09/2013 10:22:53 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Kartographer

Cool idea, though obviously not a smart idea in areas prone to hurricanes or tornadoes.

I read about these before, and I thought a good idea would be to take existing industrial buildings and remodel them as “apartment buildings”, but designed to hold these container pods instead of having regular units. Basically like a trailer park stacked up vertically and horizontally inside a structure.

Then, when people wanted to move to a new place, they could just have their container, with all their belongings inside, moved to a new building. No need to pack and unpack every time. The problem is, until there were enough of that type of building to make such easy moves possible, there would be no market for this kind of housing, so someone would have to invest a lot of money to make it workable.


5 posted on 10/09/2013 10:24:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kartographer; Regulator

I could live with this.

6 posted on 10/09/2013 10:25:24 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Kartographer
They are more commonly seen being transported on ships and at ports around the world. But with the addition of flatscreen TVs, en-suite bathrooms and air conditioning, these shipping containers are now being billed as a solution to London’s housing crisis. The containers come from China and are transformed into studio apartments in Britain which can be stacked on top of each other - and are available to rent for only £75 a week.

Britain, forty years from now:

Hulk

7 posted on 10/09/2013 10:26:03 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: alloysteel
an ultimate fortress in serious times of anarchy or civil unrest.

Five gallons of gas and a match and you'll find yourself holed up in a dutch oven.

8 posted on 10/09/2013 10:26:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Boogieman
Then, when people wanted to move to a new place, they could just have their container, with all their belongings inside, moved to a new building. No need to pack and unpack every time.

All you need is a place for your stuff.

9 posted on 10/09/2013 10:28:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Kartographer

http://www.maloystorage.com/mobile-storage-showcase-others.php

Commanche, just west of 25. We had them build a data acquisition trailer for us, it was surprisingly inexpensive.


10 posted on 10/09/2013 10:29:45 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: tacticalogic

How do you figure that?


11 posted on 10/09/2013 10:37:03 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
How do you figure that?

That sheetmetal box is a really good heat conductor.

12 posted on 10/09/2013 10:38:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Kartographer

Not a bad idea, really. I have worked on plans to build a house using the various sizes of these (especially the big boys).


13 posted on 10/09/2013 10:38:40 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Boogieman

Depending how they are achored I bet they would weather hurricanes or tornadoes well after all they are designed to be carried on the deck of a ship.


14 posted on 10/09/2013 10:39:09 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
My first thought, where's the potty?
15 posted on 10/09/2013 10:40:56 AM PDT by McGruff (Obama: The Problem Is ... I am Not the Emperor of the United States)
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To: Regulator

“Socialism in a box.”

Oh, come on. This was invented by private citizens, innovating new ways to use existing technology. Aesthetically, it’s not appealing, but it’s clearly capitalism, not socialism.


16 posted on 10/09/2013 10:41:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Thanks for the link!


17 posted on 10/09/2013 10:42:35 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Kartographer

You could be right. I guess I just imagine they would fare about as well as trailers, but then again, these are steel and built better.


18 posted on 10/09/2013 10:44:01 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: McGruff

See those bushes back there?

J/k... I imagine they have a septic tank dug out underneath, or a sewer hookup, just like any other mobile home.


19 posted on 10/09/2013 10:45:56 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kartographer

I’ve seen them for sale locally (craigslist) for about $3,000 to $4,000 each.


20 posted on 10/09/2013 10:46:53 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Kartographer

I wonder how many FEMA has? Instant concentration camps. Just add economic collapse.


21 posted on 10/09/2013 10:49:16 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Kartographer; All

Everyone realizes that picture is of two different homes, right? One on top, one on the bottom. Way to small.


22 posted on 10/09/2013 10:57:04 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Kartographer

There are quite a number of articles on prepper sites regarding us of shipping containers for cheap housing at one’s bug-out location.


23 posted on 10/09/2013 10:57:40 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Me Likey...


24 posted on 10/09/2013 10:59:02 AM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Army Air Corps

They have a branch in TX, if I recall correctly.


25 posted on 10/09/2013 10:59:24 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Boogieman

You could put one in the ground as a tornado shelter as long as it could handle the weight of the soil.


26 posted on 10/09/2013 11:05:28 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Kartographer
And they make fun of rednecks in doublewides.
27 posted on 10/09/2013 11:06:38 AM PDT by McGruff (Obama: The Problem Is ... I am Not the Emperor of the United States)
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To: tacticalogic

First you have to get close enough (without someone reaching out and giving you a preppers touch) second 5 gallon isn’t going to burn for long so if you use the right inslulation you ain’t going to feel it. And lastly it would most likely be a waste of a valuble commodity (gasoline).


28 posted on 10/09/2013 11:06:56 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: McGruff

Like Redneck Preppers’ are used to being made fun of and need to be used to the idea that when shtf they will be hated by non-prppers as or more than Rednecks.


29 posted on 10/09/2013 11:09:37 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
We got a bunch of FEMA trailers we'll sell cheap.


30 posted on 10/09/2013 11:16:39 AM PDT by McGruff (Obama: The Problem Is ... I am Not the Emperor of the United States)
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To: MacMattico

Yes. The YMCA used the smaller units to create low-cost housing for people who need a cheap place to live. There are much, much bigger shipping containers available.


31 posted on 10/09/2013 11:18:21 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Kartographer

Specs for a shipping container look to be 2mm for side and end panels, and 1.6mm for the roof. IMHO, that’s not nearly enough to qualify it as “fortress” material.


32 posted on 10/09/2013 11:27:21 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: McGruff

As I understand it ... not anymore ... they let them all sit and rot.


33 posted on 10/09/2013 11:28:56 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: alloysteel
Relatively bulletproof, and depending on the furnishings, darned near fireproof. Structurally strong enough to NOT collapse during earth tremors or earth movement, and an ultimate fortress in serious times of anarchy or civil unrest. And it is entirely modular.

This is a little misleading. There's an early Doomsday Prepper episode where a guy puts a hole in one with a 10/22. There's a Mythbusters episode where they prove as little as 4 inches of dirt on the top collapses the roof. The framework around the container is strong as that's what supports the stacking of them but the sides are really quite lightweight - by design. They are for shipping after all.

They are an affordable solution for many applications but they are not a fortress by any stretch. Just so everyone knows.

34 posted on 10/09/2013 11:30:03 AM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution!)
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To: Kartographer

What about plumbing?


35 posted on 10/09/2013 11:35:55 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: ProfoundMan

One could address the roof and wall issues that you mentioned and do so with modest effort.


36 posted on 10/09/2013 11:44:49 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: McGruff; Kartographer

McGruff wrote: “My first thought, where’s the potty?”

Follow the hose from the back of the fridge...


37 posted on 10/09/2013 12:20:00 PM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Rotten Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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To: KosmicKitty

You install it like you do in any house you build.


38 posted on 10/09/2013 12:27:02 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ProfoundMan; GladesGuru
As I remember no the .22 did not penetrate the cargo container.

I also found this from FR:

ISO containers are constructed of thin Corten type steel with corrugations to give strength. Typical container walls will stop a .22 Long Rifle, and perhaps weaker pistol bullets. Most rifle bullets will easily penetrate the sheet metal of a container. Even the corner posts are just 1/4 inch thick square or rectangular steel tubing, which a decent rifle will penetrate.

While I agree the walls aren't bullet proof you have to agree that they would beat the hell out of a sheet of dry wall! ;-)
39 posted on 10/09/2013 12:42:11 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ryan71

“I wonder how many FEMA has? Instant concentration camps. Just add economic collapse.”

Just add Zombies!


40 posted on 10/09/2013 12:55:57 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: knarf

Nope, they are again for sale...the ones not tested for formaldehyde and not recommended for long term living. So go camping once a year, it won’t hurt ya!

http://www.governmentauctions.org/fematrailers.asp#.UlW6PBCJNa0

http://www.fematrailersforsale.org/


41 posted on 10/09/2013 1:22:45 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Kartographer

When we visited the troops in Bosnia back it the late 90s, these were the majority of the base housing.


42 posted on 10/09/2013 1:50:01 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Kartographer
While I agree the walls aren't bullet proof you have to agree that they would beat the hell out of a sheet of dry wall! ;-)

Perhaps, but they are hardly the "fortresses" I was responding to.

Thanks for all your prepper posts. They are always informative and thought-provoking for those of us who prefer not to just take what comes.

43 posted on 10/09/2013 2:11:49 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution!)
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To: Alex Murphy

You forgot the mosques.


44 posted on 10/10/2013 10:52:20 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
When we visited the troops in Bosnia back it the late 90s, these were the majority of the base housing.

It's what we had for quarters when I was in Afghanistan. 12 stacked on 12. 10 on each level were used to make five double-wide sets of quarters, each housing six and the other two on each level were used for bathrooms and showers.

45 posted on 10/10/2013 10:56:34 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: alloysteel

“Relatively bulletproof...”

It would be nice to think so, but how do you define ‘bulletproof’? ... 22LR, 9mm? When is it not ‘bulletproof’? I doubt it would stop a .45 acp or a 7.62x39...a .223 maybe...


46 posted on 10/14/2013 5:41:05 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Kartographer

I shipped all my worldly goods to Northern Ireland in a 40 footer in 1979...Guess if I had shipped 6 or 7 of them I could have had a home...(I bought a 2000 sq ft home there, that I lived in for 3 years)...the 7 containers would have cost me somewhat less, and I could have been the talk of the town... :)


47 posted on 10/14/2013 5:44:42 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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