Skip to comments.Vanity - Has anyone tried installing XP lately? (Update not working for fresh install)
Posted on 10/10/2013 4:46:21 PM PDT by Slump Tester
I just noticed this about 2 weeks ago. It took all night to update, then worked fine. Today's install seems to be updating even slower. Thinking it may be an issue with my ISP, I got a friend (many miles away) to do an install with his XP, and he's experiencing the same issue.
My install cd came with SP2. I slipstreamed SP3 onto it many years ago, and it has worked flawlessly ever since. I can manually install a downloaded media player 11 which makes me validate and that passes, so that's not the problem.
Anyone have any ideas or workarounds? I noticed the screen that makes you enable active-X is gone. I went into internet options and turned on "prompt for active-x", and that got me 1 or 2 updates, but now it seems to be stuck again.
Yea, down load and install IE8. If you still have trouble, look for a update fix available online. Went through the same about 3 weeks ago.
Why install XP? Windows 7 runs fine in 32-bit.
ha ha ha sorry - I’m just so certain that the Window is closing on Windows.
Windows XP - ok yah sure.
Who knows down the road they might get their act together.
I was talking it over with a friend. Seems like the only thing they could possibly do is to re-write their gui for linux and see if they can make a go of it that way.
We shall see. PC’s are becoming dinosaurus Rex anyway. Big phone market right now.
One thing they could do to create some market share is to have their phones, plug right into an office docking station and double as a PC.
Had an XP update pushed to me last night, two .net fixes and an OS security fix. But after these + reboot, about half of the icons in my systray are missing. The processes still start, but no icons.
They are probably doing lackluster/slack QA on these final updates is my guess.
The ISO from the bit-torrent DID update, but it still seemed to take quite awhile.
I'm gonna try the IE 8 update on this install.
Worked in my case, though I did install an update fix I found on line during the process of trying to figure it out. Wish I could remember the name now for you. In your case, the upgrade to IE8 might be all you need to do. It finally downloaded and install around 170 updates to the OS after several hours. You need a good internet connection. SP3 is pretty large by itself.
You’re expecting updates for a 15 year old operating system? Are you daft? If you want something functional and free, go download and install Ubuntu Linux.
XP is no longer safe. You are literally playing with identity theft.
Yes, you need to manually install IE8 and maybe use the update fix.
XP is now officially “too much trouble” to install for personal use. The trouble involved is only justifiable if you must use it for business and nothing else will work.
It is past, past, past time to get off XP.
Windows 7 is still available for purchase and will be for a long time yet. Don’t want to spend money on 7? Fine. Just find a dead Vista machine and use the license.
But GET OFF OF XP. The final cutoff for updates is April. After that, it’s over anyway. No more security or compatibility with anything current.
working off of memory here:
updates only work off of XP SP3, not lower
if your trying to update a fresh XP SP2 install that may be your problem.
active-x for updates: need Windows IE browser or maybe google chrome will work, but Firefox definetly not.
I’m pretty much done with Windows. Hereafter I’m going with some flavor of Linux - Linux Mint is pretty cool for the PC.
Running XP SP2 on one computer, got three security updates Wednesday. Everything seemed to be running slowly and some access problems with certain sites. Ran Advanced System Care scan and repair and now everything is working fine.
I just went on the Microsoft developer site on msdn subscriber downloads and they don’t offer XP. It’s funny that they offer Windows 3.1 thru 3.2 including “for Workgroups”. They skip Windows NT and all the way thru Vista, then offer Windows 7 to the latest.
If your computer Mobo/CPU is 64-bit it makes no sense using a 32-bit OS. Other than that XP SP3 is a fine OS. I prefer W7 though. A 64-bit OS and USB3 is a great combo for digital photography and video.
It took me 2 or 3 tries, but mine finally updated. You should be using IE8, but even that is obsolete.
I have a Gateway that is about 6 or 7 years old. Uses Windows XP. Runs very slowly. Should I upgrade to Windows 7?
For now at least I need to use a Windows OS.
Your comments will be welcome
Did you opt out of Husseincare?
I'm running 7 on this Dell Precision laptop I use mostly now, but have to use XP in a Windows Virtual mode for some older development apps I still use.
I’m pretty sure IE8 is the latest version that can run on XP.
Systray has always had problems. Under XP, I recall several of them would frequently disappear. Under Win7, a similar thing happens with some of them.
With Win7 (it might also work with XP), I can log off (not shut down or restart) and re-log on. That seems to restore most of the missing icons.
Ok I guess i will be tonight’s pinata..
Windows 7 is good stable OS BUT once you RE-learn the basics of using windows 8 it is amazing!!!..There is SOOOOO much you can do...IF you take the time to learn the OS..
Now put yer blindfolds on, and grab yer sticks!
I remember installing XP was an all-day affair.
Then, I discovered a disk imaging program called CloneGenius (now Spotmau Clone Disk). After I got XP and programs running, I would clone the partition. I always put data on a different partition/drive. If I had trouble, I just ran the imaging software to restore the last image.
That saved hours of install and reinstall. Reimaging took about 45 minutes.
Now, with Win 7 laptop and desktop, I do the same. Win 7 has its own imaging program. And I recently discovered a ‘free for home use’ Macrium Reflect and also use it.
I recently had to replace my laptop hard drive. After I inserted the new drive, I used the cd install to put the manufacturer’s OEM Windows/drivers on the drive. I then used the last best Windows image to put the programs and Win 7 tweaks. The whole thing took about 2 hours.
Hilarious stuff! All you need is to use Apple computers and OS and your problems are solved. I have been an Apple user for years with nary a problem ever. My brother and his son were dedicated users of Microsoft junk and they had years of problems, crashes and serial software and hardware failures. Nevertheless, they persisted in trying time after time to “fix it.” Sadly, they failed. Modest prediction: The whole computer industry is in terminal obsolescence and the first to go under will be PC makers.
Sometimes the icon cache in Windows becomes corrupt and you see wrong icons for different file types. One way to solve the issue is to restart the computer, but you can also rebuild the icons cache without restarting the computer. Here is how :
1.Press the keyboard combination Windows logo key + R to bring up the Run dialog.
2.Type cmd and press Enter to open the command prompt window.
3.In the command prompt window, type the following commands pressing Enter after each line :
taskkill /f /im explorer.exe
attrib -H “%userprofile%\Local Settings\Application Data\IconCache.db”
del “%userprofile%\Local Settings\Application Data\IconCache.db”
4.This would restart the Windows Explorer and rebuild the icons cache as required.
You can also put all these commands into a command script, so you can run it by just double clicking on it.
Last year, I watched that British comedy series (The IT Crowd) via Netflix. It was so nerdish that I would LOL while watching nearly every episode.
It had a kind of humor that only computer geeks and nerds could appreciate.
It’s a licensing thing, and also I need the ability to R-console in. I have XP Pro, but my 7 is home.
I just need to get the initial "new" condition established so I can back it up.
You can download a program from Microsoft that will tell you if your hardware is 7 or 8 worthy.
It makes no sense using a 64 bit OS unless you have more than 4Gb of ram. I’m behind the curve. Most of my boards only go to 4Gb, and even then they only actually see/use about 3Gb.
Turned it off and on? I even wore my lucky underpants.
What’s your favorite virtual environment? I started using VMWare on my quadcore, but most of my other systems won’t run it so I’m using Virtualbox. It seems to run faster/smoother on cheese hardware.
I run XP SP3 on 2 computers with Norton and have had no problems ever. Norton has caught a few attacks over the years.
Updates are almost impossible without Net Framework 3.5. Check Ad/Remove under Control Panel to verify if you have it installed.
Well aren’t you special.
I'd get Security Essentials for your XP boxes while it's still being offered. (I believe the daily virus definitions are the same for all the OS's, but I may be wrong.)
Not sure if THAT was all it needed, as I had already installed "Microsoft update". (I used that instead of Windows update.) But the bottom line is it works!
LOL - Now I need to slipstream IE8 onto my slipstreamed SP3 install. I wonder if that's doable?
Eeewwww! For over seventy newbies, is there a one-click fix?
What is Windows? Was that a band or a song ? I can’t remember.
“It makes no sense using a 64 bit OS unless you have more than 4Gb”.
I agree. However, installing 4GB or more is standard for 64-bit OSs.
When the CPU runs in 64-bit mode it’s using more registers so its memory use is less. Code which is not memory restricted will run faster in 64-bit. I run large programs over a gig and digital photos all of which run and transfer much faster in 64-bit W7 vs. 32-bit XP.
Also, as more 64-bit programs come on line not having to format and install a 64-bit OS down the road comes into consideration.
The majority of online identity thefts and PC security breaches occur from malware and adware nowadays. Virus detection suites are becoming passé. You could have a full complement of protective measures in place, and one errant click in an email could send every last piece of personal data across the wire or could install a program to track you keystrokes.
Everyone needs to understand that viruses are not the only vectors for PC violations. Having an OS with a bad kernel, which is essentially what you have with XP, leaves you susceptible to kernel-mode and driver attacks that no virus scanning program will detect.
You could just do a virtual XP machine on your W7 box. That’s so easy >> I << do it.
That's why I was installing XP. What I'm doing (since I got the problem fixed), is R-consoling over to a windows 8 box running XP in Virtualbox. I've been using VMware, but the cheese system I have 8 on won't run it.
Now my 7 box can have all 4 cores to itself.
None, I prefer remote access to a real box if possible. lol
Hardware is so cheap now that it just doesn't make sense for what I do, which at some point involves communicating between boxes anyway. But it does beat having to get out of my favorite chair and go work in the computer room. :)
Then I installed a security update for IE8 (IE8-WindowsXP-KB2618444-x86-ENU), rebooted and now the update seems to be working.
Thanks for the update. I got word that both IE8 and Chrome are crashing on the box I reinstalled XP on a few weeks back. Will tell them to bring it by and let me take a look. Virtual XP mode is working fine on my Windows 7 laptop.
I can't find the page again but I found a fix that made it update.
Make sure automatic updates is turned on, then go to the run box and bring up a command promt. Type wuauclt /detectnow, and wait about an hour. (I closed the command prompt and went to bed and left it sit.) The next morning, it had rebooted and I had about 140 updates.
If I get bored today, I'll toss another drive in and try this without installing IE8 just to see if it works that way.
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