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Mexico stays alive in World Cup qualifying by topping Panama
sportsillustrated.cnn.com ^ | October 12, 2013 | Eduardo Verdugo/AP

Posted on 10/12/2013 10:47:30 AM PDT by BeadCounter

(AP) -- Mexico needed a spectacular Raul Jimenez goal in the 85th minute to beat Panama 2-1 on Friday and revive its hopes of qualifying for the World Cup.

The result moved Mexico into fourth place in CONCACAF qualifying, three points ahead of Panama and three points behind third-placed Honduras with one game to play.

The top three teams qualify automatically for the World Cup, while the fourth team faces an intercontinental playoff against New Zealand.

In the last round of games, Honduras is away to already-eliminated Jamaica and needs only a draw to secure a World Cup berth, while Mexico is away to Costa Rica and Panama hosts the United States. Both Costa Rica and the U.S. have already qualified for Brazil 2014.

Mexico went ahead in the 40th minute through Oribe Peralta's goal off a pass from Javier Hernandez, who missed a chance to double that lead from the penalty spot in the 58th.

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The thread on the USA/Mexico a month ago was so popular, I couldn't resist posting on this story, Mexico looked to have to settle for a draw which would have seriously stymied their World Cup hopes, it won't be an easy road no matter what, Mexico scored early in the game, Panama drew it up in the 81st minute.

And not to support the TriColor but what happened in the 85th minute is an absolute Wonder Goal that needs to be seen by football/soccer fans. Talk about dramatics before 100,000 of your own supporters on a Friday night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Gc6g6GdYs

Another view:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/10/12/vLChjAW.gif

Also, feel free to discuss any other games, USA defeated Jamaica. Tuesday, USA will next play at Panama, Mexico at Costa Rica.

1 posted on 10/12/2013 10:47:30 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Wow, that second goal was a thing of beauty.....But I was hoping the Mexicans would lose.


2 posted on 10/12/2013 10:49:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

The thing is, Mexico has the talent...they just have poor coaching.


3 posted on 10/12/2013 10:50:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

Watched the match last night. Spectacular goal!


4 posted on 10/12/2013 10:55:19 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: dfwgator

1st off, glad you saw this, it was a lively discussion last month.

After the last game in September when Mexico lost to Honduras at home, they sacked the coach/manager...and Victor Vucetich, must be a Mexican of Yugoslavian descent, was brought in: http://us.soccerway.com/coaches/victor-manuel-vucetich/145284/

It was a rather fantastic game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Gc6g6GdYs

But they sure aren’t out of the woods on this, I repeat USA at Panama, Mexico at Costa Rica. Seems it could go any way possible. And then, whomever advances I understand will play the Kiwis, New Zealand, champion of Oceania speaking of, Australia sure got walloped in a friendly versus France, something like 6-0 and sacked their manager. The Socceroos also lost real badly to Brazil not to long ago.


5 posted on 10/12/2013 10:59:22 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Flycatcher

Thanks Flycatcher, DFWGator and all who contribute!


6 posted on 10/12/2013 11:00:07 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

If Mexico brought in someone like Guus Hiddink, there’s no telling what they could do...but they keep insisting on home grown coaches.


7 posted on 10/12/2013 11:00:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

It’s a shame Mexico won. A tie would have put Panama in the driver’s seat. It would have been great if El-Tri was sitting home next summer. Let’s hope Hondura’s takes care of business against the Reggae Boyz.

Spectacular goal,though. It was a deserved win.

Oldplayer


8 posted on 10/12/2013 11:05:08 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Flycatcher

I thought Mexico was sunk, Panama drew it up in the 81st minute, no way did I think Mexico was going to come back. That was really something. Box Score here for everyone: http://us.soccerway.com/matches/2013/10/12/nc-america/wc-qualifying-concacaf/mexico/panama/1409586/


9 posted on 10/12/2013 11:05:47 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

So who has the better team? USA or Mexico?


10 posted on 10/12/2013 11:06:06 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: BeadCounter

Very nice goal, but I’m still looking forward to Mexico getting eliminated.


11 posted on 10/12/2013 11:09:59 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Hostage

Mexico has more talent, but the US is the better team.


12 posted on 10/12/2013 11:10:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

The US has nothing to play for, so I won’t be surprised if Panama wins that one. And I also think Costa Rica has second place wrapped up, as well, so I wonder how motivated they are going to be.


13 posted on 10/12/2013 11:12:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

I saw yesterday, that Switzerland qualified for the WC. I thought, wow that’s pretty good of them...until I saw who they had in their group:

Iceland
Slovenia
Norway
Albania
Cyprus

Are you freaking kidding me? Who did the Swiss bribe to get into that group?


14 posted on 10/12/2013 11:15:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hostage

USA has a better team, I’d just say look at the CONCACAF standings:

http://us.soccerway.com/international/nc-america/wc-qualifying-concacaf/2014-brazil/4th-round/r15679/

I certainly wasn’t for Mexico either, I knew that game would be a spectacle. Honestly, Mexico should consider themselves fortunate, played well in the 1st half but to me, it didn’t seem they were that driving in the 2nd half and was par for the course, the goal is all talent but nonetheless, a bit fortunate.

At home, I’m sure Costa Rica will put out a game effort. So it’s really pick them. I’d think our USA team would be Panama to begin with because Panama are not nearly as good as Costa Rica. Panama’s record really isn’t that good but they are improving.


15 posted on 10/12/2013 11:17:34 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: dfwgator

The group looks easy but on the other hand, Iceland might get into the playoffs, they’ve tried for a long time. We only drew Slovenia in 2010 though those games had officiating against us, USA. Albania could end up getting Januzaj, Norway has been to World Cups but on paper, yes, that looks a bit weak indeed.

http://eloratings.net/USA.htm

August 14th, 2013, Swiss defeated Brazil in a friendly. I don’t care if it was a friendly, Switzerland should never defeat Brazil. 1-0

See the result here: http://eloratings.net/Switzerland.htm

And then, like I said, I think the Samba Boys went on to sock it big time to the Socceroos.

Funny game as they say.


16 posted on 10/12/2013 11:23:34 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

I don’t see how Januzaj would pick Albania over Belgium, which is a real threat to win it all in Brazil, IMHO.


17 posted on 10/12/2013 11:24:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

It just seems ridiculous considering that France and Spain are in the same group.


18 posted on 10/12/2013 11:25:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“As recently as June, though, it was thought that Januzaj would opt for Albania, with former Belgium youth coach Marc Van Geersom saying that the player had refused several call-ups because he preferred to play for Albania.”

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1572278/manchester-united-midfielder-adnan-januzaj-likely-pledge-international-future-belgium?source=soccernet&cc=5901

The Croatians are talking to him also. They are often a good team.

He must be making his decision so according to different sources, he has already rejected a call up to the Belgian National Team. BUT that may be that he simply doesn’t feel ready for it yet or has NOT made a decision. I know what you are saying.

Lots of stories on this, it may not even pan out any time soon.


19 posted on 10/12/2013 11:31:34 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

In other words, the situation seems fluid and we don’t always know what stories are correct but yes, Belgium has a very promising future. Now the article says he is definitely leaning towards the Red Devils: http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1572278/manchester-united-midfielder-adnan-januzaj-likely-pledge-international-future-belgium?source=soccernet&cc=5901


20 posted on 10/12/2013 11:36:58 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: dfwgator

I must’ve been watching baseball because I did not see it.


21 posted on 10/12/2013 11:39:47 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: darkangel82

I had to watch it on the Spanish language channel, I wish Fox Soccer still was in full force, they would re-air games all the time.

By the way, Panama is a big baseball nation so this ties in. I believe that is so. I think Honduras actually is too.


22 posted on 10/12/2013 11:41:34 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

ESPN News showed it here but I only saw the post-match commentary.


23 posted on 10/12/2013 11:46:23 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: BeadCounter

Australia has Cahill and Lucas Neill, I wonder if there was a player rebellion because at the least, those are good players for that team to have been trounced so badly at the Parc de Princes in Paris and Australia is already qualified to go to the World Cup.


24 posted on 10/12/2013 2:22:23 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: dfwgator; Berlin_Freeper

Egypt has a team challenging to represent Africa for the first time since 1990 and what happens? The Arab spring.

Looks like FIFA is compelling them to make sure any games played there are secure, sounds like they have playoff games vs. Ghana.

The game in Egypt is November 19th, 2nd leg.

http://us.soccerway.com/teams/egypt/egypt/658/

“Egypt must provide FIFA with security guarantees before they will be allowed to host the World Cup play-off second leg with Ghana in Cairo.

As political and social unrest continues to destabilise the North African country, concerns have been raised over the suitability of Cairo as a venue for the deciding leg of the play-off on November 19 - with the Ghana FA asking this week for the game to be moved to a neutral location.”

http://us.soccerway.com/news/2013/October/12/egypt-given-world-cup-play-off-security-deadline/n242033/

Ghana’s been good in recent years, I go with the Ghana FA, move it to a neutral location. Not only the turmoil in Egypt but Egypt has had problems at soccer games with violence though to me it’s an offshoot from their politics, a place to vent.

And just repeating what many of us know, former USA coach Bob Bradley manages Egypt.


25 posted on 10/12/2013 4:40:46 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
Something that could really intensify the Mexico/US soccer rivalry - Mexico goes to CR and loses (could happen, even with CR already thru) and the US goes down to Panama and rolls over (intentionally?), gets beat by several goals, and Mexico goes out on goal diff.!

Fortunately for Mexico, I know the US has too much class to do that.

26 posted on 10/14/2013 7:27:48 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: safeasthebanks

Thanks for your message, just saw it this morning.

The thing is, is Panama isn’t a bad international squad, the’ve been runnersup in two relatively recent CONCACAF Gold Cups:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Gold_Cup , 2005 and 2013.

Also: http://eloratings.net/Panama.htm

Panama defeated USA in June 2011 in the USA, a loss in the Gold Cup that was avenged in the final. So, Panama is not a pushover. Costa Rica is no pushover for Mexico.

Though Costa Rica and USA don’t have a whole lot to play for, unless I see them sending in their 2nd stringers and one might want to protect the top players anyway, I’d think both will make a game effort, Costa Rica doesn’t like Mexico either, we’re playing away to Panama and lost the last time in Central America to Costa Rica fairly badly, 3-1.


Glad I was able to answer that post because this gives me a chance to just say (unrelated),

At times, I really think our former coach Bob Bradley should get out of Egypt, look at those guards in the picture here: http://www.aljazeera.com/sport/football/2013/10/bradley-ready-next-egyptian-challenge-20131015132651610582.html

Good luck to him, an Egyptian coach was shot at and thankfully not hit in Libya: http://www.worldsoccer.com/247/coach-shot-libya

And I agree with Ghana, they should not play a play-off game in Egypt, no way, fans could hardly travel there and feel safe.

Leg 1 is in Ghana today: http://us.soccerway.com/matches/2013/10/15/africa/wc-qualifying-africa/ghana/egypt/1593329/?ICID=HP_MS_01_01

The 2nd leg is scheduled for Egypt in November.

Even Libyan and Egyptian and Egyptian and Algerian fans have skirmished there, in fact, last World Cup, the bus carrying the Algerian team was stoned in Egypt and some players got bloodied though no significant injuries.


27 posted on 10/15/2013 8:18:59 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

27th minute: http://us.soccerway.com/matches/2013/10/15/africa/wc-qualifying-africa/ghana/egypt/1593329/?ICID=HP_MS_01_01

Ghana 2 0 Egypt, may be academic to talk about the 2nd leg. Lots of soccer to go though.


28 posted on 10/15/2013 9:28:25 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: safeasthebanks

Costa Rica scores, Panama scores.

27th minute:
Panama 1 0 USA
Costa Rica 1 0 Mexico


29 posted on 10/15/2013 6:57:34 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Okay, last of my commentary, Mexico drew it up, 1-1, 32nd minute, last I’ll say about this until the dust settles. Don’t want to mislead anyone.


30 posted on 10/15/2013 7:01:41 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

5 minutes of regulation time,

Panama 2 1 USA
Costa 2 1 Mexico

Mexico facing elimination from the World Cup, minutes....

(Live Feed of play by play http://www.scoresway.com/?sport=soccer&page=match&id=1409590&_teamtype=default )


31 posted on 10/15/2013 8:15:30 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

USA scores 2 in extra time, looks like USA saves Mexico’s hides.

This upsets me immensely, it was so close for Panama to advance to the playoffs, Mexico may lose but USA is going to win or draw, Panama out, Mexico to play New Zealand. Drat!


32 posted on 10/15/2013 8:23:21 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

I know, talk about mixed emotions....Mexico was dead....Why? US? Why?

Oh well, Go New Zealand.


33 posted on 10/15/2013 8:25:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Very upsetting, the rest of the day went well though,

England winning, most of the other games.

Can’t believe it, USA must have scored 2 times in added extra time to break the Panamanians hearts.


34 posted on 10/15/2013 8:26:33 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Honduras gets third and qualifies for Brazil.


35 posted on 10/15/2013 8:28:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I just hope our boys get out of the stadium and country okay, the crowd must have been stunned. Unbelievable turn of events. Drat!


36 posted on 10/15/2013 8:30:11 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Incredible results! I’m actually proud of the US for the effort they showed considering the circumstances. I can’t help thinking were the roles reversed, no other team would show athe effort and, yes, integrity, that we showed.


37 posted on 10/16/2013 5:35:53 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: safeasthebanks

We were playing a lot of second stringers. Panama’s defense collapsed at the end of the game.

Australia, England, Canada, I’d wager they would show integrity too, possibly some others.


38 posted on 10/16/2013 6:08:29 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: safeasthebanks

Of course they showed the effort. For most of the players, this was their only chance to make an impression on Klinsmann to be on the squad for Brazil.

Maybe the US didn’t have anything on the line, but for the players, EVERYTHING was on the line for them.


39 posted on 10/16/2013 6:10:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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You get situations where teams don’t deserve to advance to the World Cup, Mexico and Panama probably are those kinds of teams. I do hope the Kiwis, New Zealand defeat Mexico and NZ should win. Mexico could not win to save itself last night.


40 posted on 10/16/2013 6:12:15 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Mexico is probably going to beat NZ 10-0 on aggregate. But still, we can dream.


41 posted on 10/16/2013 6:12:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: safeasthebanks

Didn’t show until 90+ minutes then. Added Extra time for those who don’t know.


42 posted on 10/16/2013 6:18:08 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: dfwgator
Yeah, I kinda feel sorry for the Kiwis. I'm sure they expected to play someone like Panama or Honduras - much better chance against one of those teams.

As it is, maybe not 10-0, but definitely a convincing Mexico win in the Azteca, and a draw or 1-0 Mexico win in NZ.

43 posted on 10/16/2013 6:29:21 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: safeasthebanks

Ze Coach is Ze German Klinsmann, he runs the team.


44 posted on 10/16/2013 6:29:21 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

The US tied the game 1-1 in the first half. How is that “not showing”?


45 posted on 10/16/2013 6:30:33 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: dfwgator
I got this from the SI website, "comments" section, but if true, it does support your point:

@KyleBeckerman tells me Panamanian players were begging US to take it easy on the field. "I (Beckerman) told them I got to play hard to get to Brazil."

46 posted on 10/16/2013 6:35:58 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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Even if that is so, the integrity would seem to come down to our German manager.


47 posted on 10/16/2013 6:45:54 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: safeasthebanks

For the record, the USA did not tie it until the 64th minute.

http://us.soccerway.com/matches/2013/10/16/nc-america/wc-qualifying-concacaf/panama/united-states-of-america/1409590/?ICID=HP_MS_01_02


48 posted on 10/16/2013 6:47:25 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Costa Rica apparently put out a full effort against Mexico last night so it would seem they showed integrity. Yes, we could make the argument, CR was helping their central American neighbors in Panama.


49 posted on 10/16/2013 6:48:47 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: safeasthebanks

Well if that’s the case, then I am glad the US won.


50 posted on 10/16/2013 6:49:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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