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12 Oct 2013 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 10/12/2013 7:45:54 PM PDT by US Navy Vet

OK did this STUPID "Government" make a "rule" about Car Gas? At Sams Club(Council Bluffs, IA) I can ONLY find that Ethanol BS. My Subaru needs REAL Gas and I don't think that It can run on this Ethanol BS.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: ethanol; gas
Anyone else having this problem. And can My Subaru Use this Ethanol BS.
1 posted on 10/12/2013 7:45:54 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

http://www.buyrealgas.com/


2 posted on 10/12/2013 7:49:37 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: US Navy Vet

In my area it’s possible to buy ethanol free gas at certain stations that sell it. It costs a bit more but certainly is worth it. I run all my yard machines with it. Call/ask around your area. Try asking at a small engine shop if they know of any stations selling pure gas.


3 posted on 10/12/2013 7:54:48 PM PDT by Justice
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To: US Navy Vet

This website lists places where you can buy ethanol-free gasoline.
http://pure-gas.org/


4 posted on 10/12/2013 8:00:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: US Navy Vet

You base this rant on Sam’s club? Why not go to a real gas station.


5 posted on 10/12/2013 8:01:52 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: US Navy Vet

What year model is your Subaru?


6 posted on 10/12/2013 8:08:47 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: US Navy Vet

My Yamaha 150, Stihl weed wacker, chain saw, leaf blower...my generator, snow blower,lawn mower all hate ethenol...it’s a crime.


7 posted on 10/12/2013 8:08:52 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: US Navy Vet

You can find it. Most premium gas 93 octane, will be free of ethanol. That works fine in the motorcycle. Not so economic in the truck.


8 posted on 10/12/2013 8:09:19 PM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: US Navy Vet

You’re in Iowa and you question ethanol? Enjoy the reeducation camp.


9 posted on 10/12/2013 8:17:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: US Navy Vet

89 and 93 doesn’t have ethanol or so I’m told by a small engine repair shop.


10 posted on 10/12/2013 8:18:17 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: US Navy Vet

Family in Omaha noticed same thing. Overnight, the station that used to have real gas stopped selling it. We were in IA end if last month and didn’t have any trouble finding real gas. Casey’s stores and Quiktrip had it. However, I think something has happened to put more pressure on gas stations to stop selling real gas; just carry that ethanol crap.

Contact Grassley (Sen from Archer Daniels Midland) and give him an earful. He is pushing for greater use of ethanol.


11 posted on 10/12/2013 8:18:27 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: US Navy Vet
Just asking,exactly how long have you been deployed away from CONUS?
12 posted on 10/12/2013 8:19:44 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: US Navy Vet
US Navy Vet:".. And can My Subaru Use this Ethanol BS."

See your Subaru owners manual for reccomended fuel
I have used the #4 post source in the past. Ethanol free gas is available at many marinas (but you will pay more due to possible water pollution devises now required.
Also , aviation gas is also ethanol free~ found at airports.
I too buy gas at Sam's since it is always $.10 - $.20 per gallon cheaper than regular retail and service garages
I Always go to Sam's when the price is going down since they buy @ the daily spot price , and have several gasoline drops (tankers )per day.

13 posted on 10/12/2013 8:19:52 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: US Navy Vet

Alaska: all gasoline is ethanol-free.

I am happy to learn that.


14 posted on 10/12/2013 8:20:16 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Vermont Lt

Not economic whatsoever if you have to drive 175+ miles to buy it.....................(Austin)


15 posted on 10/12/2013 8:20:38 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Americans deserve better than an illegal alien communist from Kenya.)
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To: matthew fuller

I was in Northern Vt last week and I saw it all over the place. Not so much in Mass. I figure the colder weather up there now might have something to do about it. Or use in ATVs and other non farm motors.


16 posted on 10/12/2013 8:24:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: US Navy Vet

If your Subaru is relatively new, it will run okay on 10% ethanol. Your gas mileage will go down though. If the car sits unused for any length of time, water will tend to collect in the gas tank as well.


17 posted on 10/12/2013 8:24:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks for the link. The info listed at this link for my town is currently accurate as of today.

Only certain pumps at the stations are marked “real gas”, generally are the 89 octane hoses, and about 30-35+ cents/gallon more than 87 ethanol.


18 posted on 10/12/2013 8:24:39 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: US Navy Vet

All cars should run on 10% ethanol if your car is within the 1980”and forward time frame. That is all you can find anymore.
Agree with your problem.


19 posted on 10/12/2013 8:28:35 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: Kirkwood

you will find very few places that still sell conventional unleaded. I buy about five hundred thousand gallons of fuel a year from a local transporter picking up at the Marathon Rack here in Indianapolis. As it was explained to me, they are only allowed to sell a small percentage of their total fuel sales in conventional unleaded and have to pay a surcharge when exceeding that ratio.

There used to be a small difference between conventional unleaded and the 90/10 ethanol-gasoline formulation. When pressure by the government raised that differential to about 20 cents I cleaned both of my UST’S as required and switched over to the Ethanol/gasoline mixture. You have probably been buying gasoline with ethanol in it for a long time without knowing it. However, do not buy the 85/15 product unless you have checked to see if your car will handle it.


20 posted on 10/12/2013 8:28:35 PM PDT by PresidentFelon
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To: US Navy Vet

Modern cars are designed to run just fine on gasoline containing 10% ethanol. With Iowa being in the heart of corn country, and containing a LOT of ethanol plants, is it really surprising that all regular gas in Iowa contains ethanol?

By the way, I have to laugh at the Republicans who were so enamored with Minnesota’s Tim Pawlenty for President. When he was governor of Minnesota, he tried to push through a resolution mandating 15% ethanol in the gas in Minnesota, totally ignoring the voiding of car warranties using that blend.

We’ve used regular gas with ethanol in our vehicles and lawn equipment for many years with absolutely no issues.


21 posted on 10/12/2013 8:29:41 PM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: US Navy Vet

My Subaru Sti doesn’t like winter blends but I suffer thru it.
Maybe I will get a meth injection system.


22 posted on 10/12/2013 8:30:01 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: US Navy Vet
Council Bluffs BP 91 Bucky's Express #117 [712-322-8855] 1759 Madison Ave

Council Bluffs BP 91 Bucky's Express #16 [712-329-0009] 15 N 16th St

Council Bluffs BP 91 Bucky's Express #27 [712-256-2713] 2173 S 24th St

Council Bluffs BP 91 Bucky's Express #34 [712-322-2268] 3501 W Broadway

23 posted on 10/12/2013 8:37:02 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Kirkwood

Sam’s club is 10c/gallon cheaper


24 posted on 10/12/2013 8:37:34 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: US Navy Vet

In 2004-2005 I worked in Cedar Rapids, IA. Had a 5th wheel RV towed by a 2003 Toyota Tundra. That was when ethanol was being pushed into almost all gas in IA. I experienced a mileage decrease of about 3-4 miles per gallon. Shell at that time had non-ethanol. That was the only fuel I would use, even though the cost per gallon was higher. As time went on, often could not find non-ethanol at Shell even across TX, LA, MS, AL and FL. Retired, 5th wheel RV has been sold, still difficult to find gas that provides initial miles per gallon without paying significant increases.


25 posted on 10/12/2013 8:40:01 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: BigEdLB

Cheaper because it carries only ethanol. Go to a real gas station and pay more for the real deal if that is what you want. Life is like that.


26 posted on 10/12/2013 8:41:46 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: US Navy Vet

Ethanol laced fuel will destroy your fuel pump in 6 months or less if the pump was manufactured more than 5 years ago.

It will destroy every 2 stroke engine you own.

Adding 10% alcohol cuts gas mileage as much as 20% on closed loop feedback fuel injection systems (all now days).

Who would be against adding alcohol to gasoline?


27 posted on 10/12/2013 8:43:55 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Huskerfan44

Can you even find leaded gas anymore?


28 posted on 10/12/2013 8:53:07 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: US Navy Vet
  There's still at least one station here (Leesburg, GA) that advertises 'no ethanol.' I'm having a little more trouble buying food without high fructose corn syrup. If the government was really interested in lowering the annual deficit and the health of the citizens, the corn subsidies would end.
29 posted on 10/12/2013 8:59:03 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: wrench

I’ve got a 2003 Trailbrazer with the 4.2l engine (Purchased new). Have used nothing but 87 octane with ethanol for 289,000 miles. Still got the original fuel pump and still get 22 mpg on the highway.


30 posted on 10/12/2013 9:01:17 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: Maurice Tift

Look at Texas compared to CA. stations, all of CA. has 5, Texas has an
abundance of places VERY TELLING!!!


31 posted on 10/12/2013 9:10:09 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: US Navy Vet

Actually don’t sweat it. All gas in Ca has been ethanol for years and cali is 25% of the car market. I gas up my Z06 on pump gas all the time.


32 posted on 10/12/2013 9:24:52 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: Kit cat
  I checked my state of Georgia and found 309 pure gas stations listed. New York has 256. I think the database is fluid. You can notify them whenever you find a gas station that lets you buy ethanol free gas.
33 posted on 10/12/2013 9:27:46 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Most premium gas 93 octane, will be free of ethanol.”

I didn’t know that. Will they say that on the pump do you know?


34 posted on 10/12/2013 10:53:54 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Live by a track and 100 octane is available in the south. Hope that helps.


35 posted on 10/12/2013 10:56:16 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: US Navy Vet
I have a QUESTION...

I have an ANSWER

OK did this STUPID "Government" make a "rule" about Car Gas?

I don't know.

36 posted on 10/12/2013 11:30:56 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Yes they did, and as soon as we started to put corn in our gas tanks, Mexicans started complaining about the price of tortillas.


37 posted on 10/13/2013 12:04:11 AM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend suggested I use pelosi in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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To: BreezyDog

It is easy to figure out the EPA hates yard motors.


38 posted on 10/13/2013 3:16:56 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: Kirkwood
"Sam’s club? Why not go to a real gas station."

And your definition of a "real" gas station is one with higher prices? I suppose you buy from the contractor with the highest bid, too, since he obviously must be better since he charges so much more.

39 posted on 10/13/2013 4:18:10 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: US Navy Vet
STA-BIL

Lots of info on their site, with links to independent analyses.

Use it in my truck, all 2-cycle yard gear (mostly Stihl), and Deere 318.

40 posted on 10/13/2013 7:24:57 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Justice
Here in Colorado, the last station stopped selling clear gas a couple of years ago. The owner couldn't compete with the ethanol subsidized gasoline.

How is it possible that something that is more complicated to and expensive to produce is cheaper? Government subsidies.

All of our cars ran a lot better on clear gas.

Ethanol is a massive rippoff and the sheeple don't have a clue.

41 posted on 10/13/2013 9:01:24 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: lowbridge
In our state, no. Stations have the option of selling clear gas during warmer months but choose not do because E10 it is cheaper because of the subsidies.

The is an example of how the government can change the use of a product by either making the less desirable product more expensive or the more desirable product cheaper through subsidies.

42 posted on 10/13/2013 9:07:08 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Thank you! A little sparse here in Colorado.

I have a pre-gas pump car that doesn't do well on ethanol gasoline. Tons of vapor lock problems. Running aviation fuel is probably not a good idea — too high of grade.

Too bad there isn't a way to remove the ethanol.

Mixing diesel seems to work okay but not great. Wish there was a better solution.

A noticeable difference in performance in my turbo car, too.

But hey, lots of demand for corn — the corn farmers are doing really well. /sarc

43 posted on 10/13/2013 9:19:27 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

^^^I’ve got a 2003 Trailbrazer with the 4.2l engine (Purchased new). Have used nothing but 87 octane with ethanol for 289,000 miles. Still got the original fuel pump and still get 22 mpg on the highway.&&&

You need to go buy a lottery ticket, and keep your AAA membership up to date. Luck only lasts so long.

I have changed 6 pumps in those chevy 4.3 engine equipped vehicles, and that was in only 4 vehicles. Got 2 older pumps from the parts house that each lasted 3 weeks before giving it up. The impellers turn to goo in the alcohol.


44 posted on 10/13/2013 1:17:18 PM PDT by wrench
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To: wrench
You need to go buy a lottery ticket, and keep your AAA membership up to date. Luck only lasts so long.

Actually I understated the mileage...it has 298,640 miles.

45 posted on 10/13/2013 9:05:42 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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