Skip to comments.I have a QUESTION...
Posted on 10/12/2013 7:45:54 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
OK did this STUPID "Government" make a "rule" about Car Gas? At Sams Club(Council Bluffs, IA) I can ONLY find that Ethanol BS. My Subaru needs REAL Gas and I don't think that It can run on this Ethanol BS.
In my area it’s possible to buy ethanol free gas at certain stations that sell it. It costs a bit more but certainly is worth it. I run all my yard machines with it. Call/ask around your area. Try asking at a small engine shop if they know of any stations selling pure gas.
This website lists places where you can buy ethanol-free gasoline.
You base this rant on Sam’s club? Why not go to a real gas station.
What year model is your Subaru?
My Yamaha 150, Stihl weed wacker, chain saw, leaf blower...my generator, snow blower,lawn mower all hate ethenol...it’s a crime.
You can find it. Most premium gas 93 octane, will be free of ethanol. That works fine in the motorcycle. Not so economic in the truck.
You’re in Iowa and you question ethanol? Enjoy the reeducation camp.
89 and 93 doesn’t have ethanol or so I’m told by a small engine repair shop.
Family in Omaha noticed same thing. Overnight, the station that used to have real gas stopped selling it. We were in IA end if last month and didn’t have any trouble finding real gas. Casey’s stores and Quiktrip had it. However, I think something has happened to put more pressure on gas stations to stop selling real gas; just carry that ethanol crap.
Contact Grassley (Sen from Archer Daniels Midland) and give him an earful. He is pushing for greater use of ethanol.
See your Subaru owners manual for reccomended fuel
I have used the #4 post source in the past. Ethanol free gas is available at many marinas (but you will pay more due to possible water pollution devises now required.
Also , aviation gas is also ethanol free~ found at airports.
I too buy gas at Sam's since it is always $.10 - $.20 per gallon cheaper than regular retail and service garages
I Always go to Sam's when the price is going down since they buy @ the daily spot price , and have several gasoline drops (tankers )per day.
Alaska: all gasoline is ethanol-free.
I am happy to learn that.
Not economic whatsoever if you have to drive 175+ miles to buy it.....................(Austin)
I was in Northern Vt last week and I saw it all over the place. Not so much in Mass. I figure the colder weather up there now might have something to do about it. Or use in ATVs and other non farm motors.
If your Subaru is relatively new, it will run okay on 10% ethanol. Your gas mileage will go down though. If the car sits unused for any length of time, water will tend to collect in the gas tank as well.
Thanks for the link. The info listed at this link for my town is currently accurate as of today.
Only certain pumps at the stations are marked “real gas”, generally are the 89 octane hoses, and about 30-35+ cents/gallon more than 87 ethanol.
All cars should run on 10% ethanol if your car is within the 1980”and forward time frame. That is all you can find anymore.
Agree with your problem.
you will find very few places that still sell conventional unleaded. I buy about five hundred thousand gallons of fuel a year from a local transporter picking up at the Marathon Rack here in Indianapolis. As it was explained to me, they are only allowed to sell a small percentage of their total fuel sales in conventional unleaded and have to pay a surcharge when exceeding that ratio.
There used to be a small difference between conventional unleaded and the 90/10 ethanol-gasoline formulation. When pressure by the government raised that differential to about 20 cents I cleaned both of my UST’S as required and switched over to the Ethanol/gasoline mixture. You have probably been buying gasoline with ethanol in it for a long time without knowing it. However, do not buy the 85/15 product unless you have checked to see if your car will handle it.
Modern cars are designed to run just fine on gasoline containing 10% ethanol. With Iowa being in the heart of corn country, and containing a LOT of ethanol plants, is it really surprising that all regular gas in Iowa contains ethanol?
By the way, I have to laugh at the Republicans who were so enamored with Minnesota’s Tim Pawlenty for President. When he was governor of Minnesota, he tried to push through a resolution mandating 15% ethanol in the gas in Minnesota, totally ignoring the voiding of car warranties using that blend.
We’ve used regular gas with ethanol in our vehicles and lawn equipment for many years with absolutely no issues.
My Subaru Sti doesn’t like winter blends but I suffer thru it.
Maybe I will get a meth injection system.
Council Bluffs BP 91 Bucky's Express #16 [712-329-0009] 15 N 16th St
Council Bluffs BP 91 Bucky's Express #27 [712-256-2713] 2173 S 24th St
Council Bluffs BP 91 Bucky's Express #34 [712-322-2268] 3501 W Broadway
Sam’s club is 10c/gallon cheaper
In 2004-2005 I worked in Cedar Rapids, IA. Had a 5th wheel RV towed by a 2003 Toyota Tundra. That was when ethanol was being pushed into almost all gas in IA. I experienced a mileage decrease of about 3-4 miles per gallon. Shell at that time had non-ethanol. That was the only fuel I would use, even though the cost per gallon was higher. As time went on, often could not find non-ethanol at Shell even across TX, LA, MS, AL and FL. Retired, 5th wheel RV has been sold, still difficult to find gas that provides initial miles per gallon without paying significant increases.
Cheaper because it carries only ethanol. Go to a real gas station and pay more for the real deal if that is what you want. Life is like that.
Ethanol laced fuel will destroy your fuel pump in 6 months or less if the pump was manufactured more than 5 years ago.
It will destroy every 2 stroke engine you own.
Adding 10% alcohol cuts gas mileage as much as 20% on closed loop feedback fuel injection systems (all now days).
Who would be against adding alcohol to gasoline?
Can you even find leaded gas anymore?
I’ve got a 2003 Trailbrazer with the 4.2l engine (Purchased new). Have used nothing but 87 octane with ethanol for 289,000 miles. Still got the original fuel pump and still get 22 mpg on the highway.
Look at Texas compared to CA. stations, all of CA. has 5, Texas has an
abundance of places VERY TELLING!!!
Actually don’t sweat it. All gas in Ca has been ethanol for years and cali is 25% of the car market. I gas up my Z06 on pump gas all the time.
“Most premium gas 93 octane, will be free of ethanol.”
I didn’t know that. Will they say that on the pump do you know?
Live by a track and 100 octane is available in the south. Hope that helps.
I have an ANSWER
OK did this STUPID "Government" make a "rule" about Car Gas?
I don't know.
Yes they did, and as soon as we started to put corn in our gas tanks, Mexicans started complaining about the price of tortillas.
It is easy to figure out the EPA hates yard motors.
And your definition of a "real" gas station is one with higher prices? I suppose you buy from the contractor with the highest bid, too, since he obviously must be better since he charges so much more.
Lots of info on their site, with links to independent analyses.
Use it in my truck, all 2-cycle yard gear (mostly Stihl), and Deere 318.
How is it possible that something that is more complicated to and expensive to produce is cheaper? Government subsidies.
All of our cars ran a lot better on clear gas.
Ethanol is a massive rippoff and the sheeple don't have a clue.
The is an example of how the government can change the use of a product by either making the less desirable product more expensive or the more desirable product cheaper through subsidies.
I have a pre-gas pump car that doesn't do well on ethanol gasoline. Tons of vapor lock problems. Running aviation fuel is probably not a good idea — too high of grade.
Too bad there isn't a way to remove the ethanol.
Mixing diesel seems to work okay but not great. Wish there was a better solution.
A noticeable difference in performance in my turbo car, too.
But hey, lots of demand for corn — the corn farmers are doing really well. /sarc
^^^Ive got a 2003 Trailbrazer with the 4.2l engine (Purchased new). Have used nothing but 87 octane with ethanol for 289,000 miles. Still got the original fuel pump and still get 22 mpg on the highway.&&&
You need to go buy a lottery ticket, and keep your AAA membership up to date. Luck only lasts so long.
I have changed 6 pumps in those chevy 4.3 engine equipped vehicles, and that was in only 4 vehicles. Got 2 older pumps from the parts house that each lasted 3 weeks before giving it up. The impellers turn to goo in the alcohol.
Actually I understated the mileage...it has 298,640 miles.
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