Posted on 10/14/2013 7:03:57 AM PDT by raybbr
I am a member of BJ's wholesale. They have this emergency food supply available: http://www.bjs.com/augason-farms-emergency-food-storage-kit-1-year-1-person.product.211362?dimId=8052
Any thoughts? I have a supply of food that I've been building up over time. About two months for my family of four (two adults - two children).
I want a compact supply and something I can build further on.
Thanks in advance.
Link: http://www.bjs.com/augason-farms-emergency-food-storage-kit-1-year-1-person.product.211362?dimId=8052
Let’s ask the experts.
Trying to use 'emergency' food stores is a sure way to menu fatigue and poor health.
It makes more sense to buy what you normally use in bulk, saving up to 10% with the bulk purchase and another 5% by avoiding inflation.
Good luck.
/johnny
>> Trying to use ‘emergency’ food stores is a sure way to menu fatigue and poor health.
That’s very diplomatic, Johnny... much less harsh than my “if surviving means eating that crap, just shoot me now...” :-)
Sometimes space is an issue. It is a lot harder to store a year’s worth of canned goods than desiccated products. Yes, you will get menu fatigue but you will eat.
When I was feeding 1400 of my closest friends in the field in adverse circumstances, getting them GOOD food made all the difference in the world on unit performance.
/johnny
If you’re a good field cook I think I’ll add a map to your place to my bug-out kit. You feed me good, I’ll hunt and fight for ya — deal?
/johnny
Problem is that most people with menu fatigue won't eat, or not enough to keep up their health and strength. I've seen it first-hand in the military.
/johnny
Dang. Alright, I guess I’ll stay on my place and eat bunnies.
I wonder how skunk tastes. If it can be choked down I’ll *never* starve. :-)
Hi. Don’t ever change, Johnny. ((hugs))
Buy a few cans - THEN make your decision after preparing and eating them... Just might take a different approach.. I did.
The price seems a bit high, not being able to choose what your family eats makes it more expensive.
You could probably put together your own kit buying individual cans a lot cheaper than what they have here.
Multiple cans of rice can get down right expensive when compared to a bag of rice of equal amount you can store in jars.
Same with some of the other foods. You are paying a lot for a can.
Buying cans of dried veggies and some dried meat will let you fix it to your taste the way you want.
I am not a fan of such kits. One of the reason and a lot of this stuff you can pick up in bulk at a store and even after buying bags and oxygen absorbers put it up yourself cheaper a good exaxample would be mash potato flakes and dehdrated hash browns.In fact I dehyrated some of my own food and prep it for long term storage in mylar or vaccum pack in canning jars.
The second reason goes like this, say the kit comes with 8 entrees A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H. Now you really like A and C,E and G are good, but B and H you are barely able to choke down, leaving D and F which you wouldn’t eve feed to a zombie! That means you will more and likely eat the good stuff first leaving you with 50% of your food storage that you hate or gags you when you try and put it down. That would get old pretty quick.
Having the makings rather than prepared meals allow you a lot more varity and limits food fatigue.
That’s my two cents.
Preppers’ PING!!
Over on another board, Zombie Hunters dot org, this is a common topic.
Things to look for: calorie count, serving size, cost per calorie and then look closely at the ingredients.
In some of these so-called survival foods, you see things like milk and cheese. In other brands, of the ‘same’ food, you see coffee creamer and “cheese flavoring”.
Last - Country of Origin. I’ve seen many postings on several different sites where this supplier and other vendors have admitted that “some to much” of the food they sell is Hencho in China.
A real red flag to me is when the vendor will not disclose source of food.
I have contacted AF several times asking for this information and been rebuffed. So, no sale for me.
YMMV.
BTW, rather than buy food like this, why not roll your own. See
http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=74461&hilit=costco+food
for some good discussion about storage food.
I give you Lima Beans and Ham. ;-)
I bought this kit for one person earlier this summer, it seems to be ok but I’ve not tried the foodl
They also had a kit for three days if you are stuck in your car, with a blanket and flashlight. They don’t have it now, because I paid about 45 for it, and the new one they have like it is a bit more expensive, I put it in my car just to be safe,
I hope that helps.
P. S. you reminded me I need to get over there for paper goods. Thanks!
Do you want solid silver teenage girls, or is plated OK?
/johnny
Which I liked OK, the Army always left me hungry so I was an eager consumer of many unpopular cans, I might eat 4 of the hated fruit cakes with my meals trying to keep my body fed.
Since I was indifferent to canned peaches, I could use that popular item to trade up for a heavy dose of calories from unpopular entrees.
How about a couple of sentences on your long term food plans and food situation?
Are you like me where you can’t afford to eat this expensive stuff anyway, so if you purchase it, it is intended to never be used and only kept stored as a what if?
If you have the money without causing a cash flow problem, get it, I would. I read each food on there and they are common foods and don’t see a one that a person would think is strange and wouldn’t eat.
Now, there are 6 cans of Hard White Wheat - that is the berries and not ground flour. Soaking and cooking/eating the wheat berries is hard on the stomach if you are not used to eating it that way. I would hope you have a grain mill to be able to grind it into flour.
If you could choke down “Ham and MotherXXXXXX”, you have no worries you can choke down anything!
“I think I’ll add a map to your place to my bug-out kit.”
Tick, silly you. If you don’t know the password, you won’t live to get very far on his property and you won’t know he is on you until you are disposable material. I am not kidding.
>> I am not kidding.
I’m sure you’re not! I’d make advance arrangements... my ma may have raised some ugly critters, but she didn’t raise no fools. :-)
Sleeping bag for the car, not blanket, a blanket doesn’t turn magical when the car breaks down.
A blanket barely keeps you warm on the couch watching TV, inside of a car that is 30 degrees inside (or much, much lower) it does little.
Buy a sleeping bag for the car and keep a blanket in the car to put INSIDE of the sleeping bag, and try to choose based on your climate, 20 degrees is cold when you are just sitting in it for hours.
Also figure there is a good chance that your shoes and socks and pants are all wet because you were in the snow trying to deal with your situation and now you are trying to cozy up in the car for the next 10 hours before dawn.
You can see that reflected in my frugal choices for survival foods, at my income it has to be mostly wheat and beans instead of the freeze dried eggs and blueberries and Chicken Cacciatore that better heeled preppers can and should be buying, to flesh out their own stores of wheat and beans.
While the recommendations to buy what you eat, etc. are the best advice and accurate and especially applicable to families with kids and the elderly, or the less determined, I also recognize the need for some to buy cheap, boring "gruel" that will barely hold off starvation.
Ah, ok, I’ll start pricing sleeping bags. That is a great idea.
Ditto for the extra clothing.
I also have two boxes of granola bars in the trunk. If they were in the car I would eat them now! I suppose I should put a few small bottles of water in there as well, just to be safe.
Off topic, I noticed they had a bag for pets. I will make one up for my cat, just in case. I think that’s a good idea.
Is that the one that was formally known as “Ham and Beans”?
I remember there was a “Ham and Beans” and a “Pork and Beans”; one was halfway decent and the other had lima beans and was gawdawful.
The Auguson emergency kit contains a plastic poncho and a blanket. If it comes to it, put the poncho on after wrapping in the blanket, insulating the warmth in with the moisture that will evaporate from your body.
The one year kit is the easy way to do it - then you have it and there it is, all done.
I did it the long way - figured out meals every day for a month, using different foods so there wouldn’t be boredom of food. I figured the amount of every bit of ingredients needed for each recipe and the total amount needed for a year. Then I made a list. Then, I bought those foods professionally packed without oxygen, from Walton Feed in Idaho and they buy the food from the growers and package it. That food will last 20-25 years. As I bought them, I checked them off the list. I kept on buying monthly until the list was complete.
I bought dehydrated veggies as they are cheaper than freeze dried and can store more of the dehydrated in a smaller space.
There is no real meat in those cans. I bought mainly Hormel canned meats at the grocery because they will last for many years. Hormel is an expert in canning meats - they made and canned the original Spam. I began preparing before dates were required on cans, so I called Hormel and they assured me their canned meats of all kinds will last indefinitely as long as the can isn’t punctured.
I started preparing in 1998, so I made all my mistakes back then and pretty much have my act together now.
Since you are probably feeding more than yourself mix up your kit brands.
If snowed into your car, it is a good idea to have a urinal jug, such as a 100 load liquid laundry jug with lid. Remove the pour spout after drying it out and place the measuring lid on to seal the urinal. The jug should hold more than a gallon and even women can ‘hit’ the large opening when the pour spout is removed.
Sorry it’s so dry here I never use them. Can anyone else recommend?
That bit about country of origin makes this easy for me. No go.
when i bought like this many cans were near empty. like dried fruit. best bet is to go to LDS website. buy from them.
Speaking of food and calories,...
Our black walnut trees produced a good crop this year.
Anyone have any experience in getting a crop out of them?
Try that in real life you will freeze, I think the blanket they are listing is one of those little "survival" blankets ins't it?
The last thing someone wants to do in a survival situation is trap their moisture and get their clothes damp, especially cotton clothing which most of us prefer.
People need to remember that sitting in the cold for hours is much different from walking and working in it.
My now deceased Mother used to spread them in her gravel driveway and run over them, so the squirrels could get to the meats easily. I just feed them popcorn ...
Well then, buy two or three of the mover’s blankets (padded with cow or horse hair probably) that Harbor Freight has on sale for 5.99 (72 x 80).
Another good idea, hadn’t thought about that, since I’m a gal.
I suppose I should have a few of those toilet wipes too,
The other thing I was thinking of is my old Walkman, and some extra batteries in case I want to listen to a radio or something. I don’t want to drain the car battery.
Any sleeping bag you keep in the car will probably be cheap, mummy bags are best and keep a fleece blanket to put inside, you will be AMAZED at what that can accomplish, and it covers your shoulders and head while you do things with your hands like lighting a tea candle or eating or using your phone.
Try to imagine you out in tennis shoes and blue jeans and breaking down in snow, right off the bat you know that you want boots and extra socks.
Since you are never going to eat it anyway, keep less favorite foods for car storage (people of low self control sometimes use quality canned cat food), and your water bottle needs to be kept in a freezer bag and a ice chest or soft sided cooler in case it goes through a freeze/burst/thaw cycle.
1) There is no MEAT included in that compilation, it’s all vegetarian.
2) 1200 Calories per person per day won’t let you do much heavy work if TSHTF for real.
Good luck.
Know someone with a 2 ton press? :^)
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