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The Problem with the Arms Trade Treaty
CNSNews ^ | 10/14/2013 | Ed Feulner

Posted on 10/14/2013 8:42:11 AM PDT by rktman

The Law of the Sea Treaty. The Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women.

Yes, when it comes to international agreements that may seem harmless until you read the fine print, the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty has plenty of company. Like the pacts cited above, the ATT has been signed by the U.S., but not ratified by the Senate.

Nor is it likely to be. But that doesn’t mean it won’t prove damaging to the United States and its interests.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: obamanation
I would ask how the asshats in power can't see the danger in all these treaties but we know they don't care as long as somebody gets more power and control. Screw the peasants. We know what's best for you now get back to work.
1 posted on 10/14/2013 8:42:11 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

new world order.


2 posted on 10/14/2013 9:21:42 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: rktman

Foolish Presidents have been signing POS treaties forever. Its not that uncommon. The Senate will never ratify this garbage and it will never become law. Treaties don’t trump the Constitution and Obama can blather about it all day long but it will not have any impact on US individual rights to own arm.s


3 posted on 10/14/2013 9:37:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Anything that is “International” and has “Trade” in it....It’s bad for America and Americans. Arms Trade....Free Trade....it’s all bad


4 posted on 10/14/2013 10:23:21 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“...it will not have any impact on US individual rights to own arms.”

It’s not quite that simple. The text quoted below is from the Harvard law review. The proposition in that article is widely advocated among progressives and other bent on tying down the US. Thus, precedent exists for a leftist Court to “defer” to international standards and provides a not-too-thin reed for ATF to exceed previous firearms regulations.

I think there will be significant battles about this issue in the courts and the result is not clear.

“Despite the modern separation between signature and ratification, many international lawyers and academics contend that when a nation signs a treaty, it is bound to refrain from actions that would defeat the object and purpose of the treaty until such time as it makes clear its intention not to become a party to the treaty. This obligation is reflected in Article 18 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties (“Vienna Convention”), a treaty that itself governs the formation, interpretation, and termination of treaties. Although the United States is not a party to the Vienna Convention, many commentators claim that Article 18 reflects customary international law that is binding on nations that have not joined the Convention, a claim that the United States has not denied. In addition, some commentators have made broad claims about the content of the object and purpose obligation, arguing that it either binds signatory nations not to violate a treaty at all or that it binds them not to violate any of the “core” or “important” provisions in the treaty. These claims are frequently made, for example, in connection with the U.S. signature of human rights treaties, such as the Convention on the Rights of the Child.”


5 posted on 10/14/2013 1:17:04 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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The only advice I can give on this issue is worry about something that may really happen like amnesty.

The Small Arms Treaty is not going to happen no matter the intellectual speculation of constitutional scholars.


6 posted on 10/14/2013 2:48:44 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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