Skip to comments.Major issues with Java
Posted on 10/14/2013 1:27:23 PM PDT by Don W
Since last September's update, the Java in my mom's 'puter has not worked properly, and she is unable to go use her "Pogo" site.
I have tried using the MS uninstaller, and the Oracle site's uninstaller with no success. The folks at Staples went through the programs line by line and removed Java that way, but that only lasted a week, and the problem came back.
No further Java updates have been able to install themselves, and she is stuck with a non-functioning Java v7.7
Help, if you can. Snide apple and linux comments will be ignored
Any other ideas?
How about truthful comments :)
You may need to install Java directly from Oracle’s web site.
Then make sure your “JAVA_HOME” environment variable is set to the directory of the java installation. Make sure the bin folder in the JAVA_HOME directory is in the PATH.
You can confirm this if you go to the command prompt and type “java -version”.
Need to know what version of Windows and what version of browser.
It’s a long shot, but you could see if she has a system restore point from back before the java update.
I’m running Windows 8 with Chrome Browser and Java 7.25 the latest is 7.40. Pogo runs just fine under that for me.
I have had serious problems with java since the last update (I’m on Windows 7, usually in Firefox), but I just uninstalled and reinstalled from the Oracle website, and now my favorite game site (which is tickettoride for a railroad game) suddenly works with java again for me.
So they may have just gotten something straightened out today, at least it is working for me, the first time in weeks.
Windows Vista and IE 9.0.8112.16421, update 9.0.21KB2879017
The earliest restore point on the unit is from 6 months age.
I have tried both the auto-install and the manual install from the Oracle site with no luck.
How is it that so many people seem to have these sorts of issues? But not everyone?
I really don’t know. My laptop (identical to mom’s except I use windows 7 and IE 10) runs the site flawlessly.
I so feel your pain. I can offer you no solutions as I never found one for myself when this happened to my husband’s computer. He also runs on Vista (which is awful). We did change browsers...firefox I think...and he was able to play some of the POGO games.
Then I just had to wait for JAVA to come out w/ a new version to ‘fix’ the problem. I did not/have not updated the JAVA from September just to keep from having the problem again.
Good luck. I do hope you can figure it out for your mother. I know my hubby was not happy being w/o his favorite POGO games.
I don't have the problem because I have Java disabled as a security risk. If a site wants Java, it doesn't want me.
When crap like this happens (very infrequent), I re-image my machine.
And my wife’s.
I just don’t screw with this stuff. Too painful.
Of course this is hinging on somebodyt creating a solid image in the first place.
Change the "Category View" to "Large Icons"
double click the Java icon
The Java Control Panel will come up
click the "settings" box
click "delete files"
check all three boxes and click OK.
Hope this works.
I may have misled, in that the update that caused the problem was from September 2012, not ‘13.
See if you have any luck using Revo Uninstaller.
That is an awesome program. I recommend it to everybody, even if you don’t have something that needs it right now.
Unfortunately, there is no Java icon in the control panel, though it still exists in the add/remove programs list.
We have tried to remove it at least 24 times now, and it’s starting to get tiresome, to say the least.
I can’t use Pogo on Firefox, but it seems to work fine so far using Opera. The problems seem to be a combination of Firefox, adblock plus and noscript not playing nicely with Pogo’s programming/ads.
If you go to My Computer / C-drive / program files , is there a Java folder there?
You could try installing Chrome, Firefox, or Safari. Then install Java into the new browser and attempt to use the site that needs it.
Also, check this Pogo help page, if you haven't already.
Try the Revo Uninstaller. It’s an awesome program.
“Snide apple and linux comments will be ignored”
Are snide Java comments OK? if so, write once, test everywhere: a steaming POS, that was worth what is cost until Oracle started charging OEM’s to use it.
But seriously, your machine might be so screwed up that I would take the risk of using the registry editor and remove any trace of “sun.” or “java”
No java icon anywhere except in the install/uninstall folder.
Backup any personal files on the computer.
Reformat the hard disk.
Reinstall a clean OS.
Create a restore point.
Get your POGO working by installing what you need.
Create a restore point.
Reinstall other apps one at a time creating a restore point after each successful install.
Reinstall personal files.
Most likely the Windoze registry is corrupt and there is a conflict between Java and another app.
PITA but unless you want to go mucking around in the registry, brute force is much easier.
The Forced Removal really works and removes all the crap in the register too.
Good Hunting... from Varmint Al
After removing and then re-installing Java, this worked for me. I was informed that update(?) 25 was the problem. The current update is no. 40.
Get free trial version of REVO Uninstaller http://www.revouninstaller.com/
The geekuninstaller zip file was ID’d as photos by mom’s ‘puter, so I went with the Revo-uninstaller, and at long last Java 7.0.7 and all its hidden files are OUT!
I am going to run registry cleaner and defrag, then I am going to the Oracle website to download the latest version of Java, and I’ll get back to you all when I’m done.
Many thanks for all your help so far. I LOVE this place!
FWIW, there's JAVA for those OSes, too. It sucks there as well.
I haven’t forgotten, defrag is STILL running.
Thank you for your help. After using the revo uninstaller, cleaning the registry (306 messes in there), defragging the drive (7 hours and 2 false starts), and installing a clean version 7.0.40 from the Oracle site, mom is back in business!
Look out all you Pogo players, she’s ba-ack. LOL
Now, learn about disk/partition imaging. It can save you hours of recovery time.
In Win7, check
Control Panel\System and Security\Backup and Restore
Also, check out ‘free for home use’ imaging programs. I recently tried Macrium Reflect and like it.
I recently had to put a new blank hard drive in my laptop. By using the manufacturer’s image restore disk to get the Operating System running and then using an image of my previous OS drive with programs, I got the new disk up and running in less than 2 hours. I didn’t have much tweaking and only had to add new program installations.
Note: I keep my data on a separate partition and backed up to an external hard drive, so it was recoverable.
Oh I’m so happy for you and your mother. I know that my hubby was very grumpy/frustrated when he couldn’t play his favorite games. It was how he passed the morning while listening to his favorite sports radio show. We live in an area where we can only get radio in two places....our cars or his ‘man’ room.
But THAT’S another story.
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