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Major issues with Java
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Posted on 10/14/2013 1:27:23 PM PDT by Don W

Since last September's update, the Java in my mom's 'puter has not worked properly, and she is unable to go use her "Pogo" site.

I have tried using the MS uninstaller, and the Oracle site's uninstaller with no success. The folks at Staples went through the programs line by line and removed Java that way, but that only lasted a week, and the problem came back.

No further Java updates have been able to install themselves, and she is stuck with a non-functioning Java v7.7

Help, if you can. Snide apple and linux comments will be ignored


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: computerproblems
I also tried removing sun through dos, and had no luck that way either.

Any other ideas?

1 posted on 10/14/2013 1:27:23 PM PDT by Don W
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To: Don W

How about truthful comments :)


2 posted on 10/14/2013 1:32:15 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Don W

You may need to install Java directly from Oracle’s web site.

Then make sure your “JAVA_HOME” environment variable is set to the directory of the java installation. Make sure the bin folder in the JAVA_HOME directory is in the PATH.

You can confirm this if you go to the command prompt and type “java -version”.


3 posted on 10/14/2013 1:33:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Don W

Need to know what version of Windows and what version of browser.


4 posted on 10/14/2013 1:33:26 PM PDT by red-dawg
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To: Don W

It’s a long shot, but you could see if she has a system restore point from back before the java update.


5 posted on 10/14/2013 1:33:30 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Don W

I’m running Windows 8 with Chrome Browser and Java 7.25 the latest is 7.40. Pogo runs just fine under that for me.


6 posted on 10/14/2013 1:39:03 PM PDT by Hang'emAll (If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?)
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To: Don W

I have had serious problems with java since the last update (I’m on Windows 7, usually in Firefox), but I just uninstalled and reinstalled from the Oracle website, and now my favorite game site (which is tickettoride for a railroad game) suddenly works with java again for me.

So they may have just gotten something straightened out today, at least it is working for me, the first time in weeks.


7 posted on 10/14/2013 1:40:41 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: red-dawg

Windows Vista and IE 9.0.8112.16421, update 9.0.21KB2879017

The earliest restore point on the unit is from 6 months age.


8 posted on 10/14/2013 1:42:58 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; ...

9 posted on 10/14/2013 1:43:55 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dfwgator

I have tried both the auto-install and the manual install from the Oracle site with no luck.


10 posted on 10/14/2013 1:44:15 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

How is it that so many people seem to have these sorts of issues? But not everyone?


11 posted on 10/14/2013 1:47:00 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: 2harddrive

I really don’t know. My laptop (identical to mom’s except I use windows 7 and IE 10) runs the site flawlessly.


12 posted on 10/14/2013 1:51:13 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

I so feel your pain. I can offer you no solutions as I never found one for myself when this happened to my husband’s computer. He also runs on Vista (which is awful). We did change browsers...firefox I think...and he was able to play some of the POGO games.

Then I just had to wait for JAVA to come out w/ a new version to ‘fix’ the problem. I did not/have not updated the JAVA from September just to keep from having the problem again.

Good luck. I do hope you can figure it out for your mother. I know my hubby was not happy being w/o his favorite POGO games.


13 posted on 10/14/2013 1:53:28 PM PDT by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: 2harddrive
How is it that so many people seem to have these sorts of issues? But not everyone?

I don't have the problem because I have Java disabled as a security risk. If a site wants Java, it doesn't want me.

14 posted on 10/14/2013 1:55:32 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Don W

When crap like this happens (very infrequent), I re-image my machine.

And my wife’s.
My Mom’s
My brother.
My preacher
My friend(s).

I just don’t screw with this stuff. Too painful.

Of course this is hinging on somebodyt creating a solid image in the first place.


15 posted on 10/14/2013 1:55:39 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Don W
Go to Control Panel.

Change the "Category View" to "Large Icons"

double click the Java icon

The Java Control Panel will come up

click the "settings" box

click "delete files"

check all three boxes and click OK.

Hope this works.

16 posted on 10/14/2013 1:56:15 PM PDT by red-dawg
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To: conservaKate

I may have misled, in that the update that caused the problem was from September 2012, not ‘13.

My apologies.


17 posted on 10/14/2013 1:56:26 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

See if you have any luck using Revo Uninstaller.

http://download.cnet.com/Revo-Uninstaller/3000-2096_4-10687648.html


18 posted on 10/14/2013 1:57:39 PM PDT by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: Zman

That is an awesome program. I recommend it to everybody, even if you don’t have something that needs it right now.


19 posted on 10/14/2013 2:11:16 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: red-dawg

Unfortunately, there is no Java icon in the control panel, though it still exists in the add/remove programs list.

We have tried to remove it at least 24 times now, and it’s starting to get tiresome, to say the least.


20 posted on 10/14/2013 2:16:53 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

I can’t use Pogo on Firefox, but it seems to work fine so far using Opera. The problems seem to be a combination of Firefox, adblock plus and noscript not playing nicely with Pogo’s programming/ads.


21 posted on 10/14/2013 2:24:31 PM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: Don W
Question:

If you go to My Computer / C-drive / program files , is there a Java folder there?

22 posted on 10/14/2013 2:25:40 PM PDT by red-dawg
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To: Don W
Windows Vista and IE 9.0.8112.16421, update 9.0.21KB2879017

You could try installing Chrome, Firefox, or Safari. Then install Java into the new browser and attempt to use the site that needs it.

Also, check this Pogo help page, if you haven't already.

23 posted on 10/14/2013 2:40:42 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Don W

Try the Revo Uninstaller. It’s an awesome program.


24 posted on 10/14/2013 2:52:36 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Don W

“Snide apple and linux comments will be ignored”

Are snide Java comments OK? if so, write once, test everywhere: a steaming POS, that was worth what is cost until Oracle started charging OEM’s to use it.

But seriously, your machine might be so screwed up that I would take the risk of using the registry editor and remove any trace of “sun.” or “java”


25 posted on 10/14/2013 2:56:40 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie

That is what I do when things get 'clogged.'

Prior to that, I would delete the java folders under Program Files (x86), Program Data\Sun, Users\All Users\Sun.

Then, run a registry cleaner. Reboot. Try installing.


26 posted on 10/14/2013 3:23:30 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: red-dawg

No java icon anywhere except in the install/uninstall folder.


27 posted on 10/14/2013 3:27:51 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

Backup any personal files on the computer.
Reformat the hard disk.
Reinstall a clean OS.
Reinstall Java,
Create a restore point.
Get your POGO working by installing what you need.
Create a restore point.
Reinstall other apps one at a time creating a restore point after each successful install.
Reinstall personal files.
Most likely the Windoze registry is corrupt and there is a conflict between Java and another app.
PITA but unless you want to go mucking around in the registry, brute force is much easier.


28 posted on 10/14/2013 3:35:40 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Don W
I use the GEEK uninstaller. Here is the web page: GEEK Uninstaller GeekUninstaller with Forced Removal.

The Forced Removal really works and removes all the crap in the register too.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

29 posted on 10/14/2013 3:36:33 PM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: red-dawg

After removing and then re-installing Java, this worked for me. I was informed that update(?) 25 was the problem. The current update is no. 40.


30 posted on 10/14/2013 3:49:21 PM PDT by pa_dweller (Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves:... Isa 1:23)
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To: Don W

Get free trial version of REVO Uninstaller http://www.revouninstaller.com/


31 posted on 10/14/2013 4:51:13 PM PDT by AKinAK (Keep your powder dry pilgrim.)
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To: Varmint Al

Update:

The geekuninstaller zip file was ID’d as photos by mom’s ‘puter, so I went with the Revo-uninstaller, and at long last Java 7.0.7 and all its hidden files are OUT!

I am going to run registry cleaner and defrag, then I am going to the Oracle website to download the latest version of Java, and I’ll get back to you all when I’m done.

Many thanks for all your help so far. I LOVE this place!


32 posted on 10/14/2013 5:20:00 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W
Snide apple and linux comments will be ignored

FWIW, there's JAVA for those OSes, too. It sucks there as well.

33 posted on 10/14/2013 5:40:27 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Don W

I haven’t forgotten, defrag is STILL running.


34 posted on 10/14/2013 8:56:56 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: dfwgator; Resolute Conservative; red-dawg; mmichaels1970; Hang'emAll; Enchante; ShadowAce; ...

Thank you for your help. After using the revo uninstaller, cleaning the registry (306 messes in there), defragging the drive (7 hours and 2 false starts), and installing a clean version 7.0.40 from the Oracle site, mom is back in business!

Look out all you Pogo players, she’s ba-ack. LOL


35 posted on 10/15/2013 7:39:17 AM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

Excellent news.

Now, learn about disk/partition imaging. It can save you hours of recovery time.

In Win7, check
Control Panel\System and Security\Backup and Restore

Also, check out ‘free for home use’ imaging programs. I recently tried Macrium Reflect and like it.

http://www.macrium.com/

==

I recently had to put a new blank hard drive in my laptop. By using the manufacturer’s image restore disk to get the Operating System running and then using an image of my previous OS drive with programs, I got the new disk up and running in less than 2 hours. I didn’t have much tweaking and only had to add new program installations.

Note: I keep my data on a separate partition and backed up to an external hard drive, so it was recoverable.


36 posted on 10/15/2013 8:05:58 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Don W

Excellent news!


37 posted on 10/15/2013 8:09:19 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Don W

Oh I’m so happy for you and your mother. I know that my hubby was very grumpy/frustrated when he couldn’t play his favorite games. It was how he passed the morning while listening to his favorite sports radio show. We live in an area where we can only get radio in two places....our cars or his ‘man’ room.

But THAT’S another story.


38 posted on 10/15/2013 9:21:37 AM PDT by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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