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Teenage woman crucified as part of a 'week long exorcism carried out by her boyfriend and friends'
Daily Mail ^ | Oct 7, 2013 | Peter Allen

Posted on 10/14/2013 4:02:26 PM PDT by Kip Russell

A teenager thought to be possessed by the devil was subjected to a violent crucifixion-style exorcism by four religious extremists, a court in France heard today (Monday).

Three men and a woman belonging to the Seventh Day Adventist Church are accused of kidnapping, and acts of torture and barbarism against the 19-year-old.

The young woman, referred to solely by the name Antoinette, was barely alive when police found her in a flat in a housing estate in the Paris suburb of Grigny.

Her tormentors are accused of tying her up like Jesus on the cross, and keeping Antoinette in the same position for seven days during 2011.

They believed that this would exorcise her from her sins, and get rid of the devil inside her.

In the meantime Antoinette was regularly beaten, and only allowed small amounts of cooking oil and water so as to stay alive.

Eric Deron, the teenager’s former boyfriend and the defendant who is thought to have instigated the assault, believed he was on a divine mission, Essonne Assizes, near Paris, heard.

Deron is on trial along with his mother, Lise-Michelle Babin, and two men called Philippe Grego and Lionel Fremor, all from the French Caribbean.

According to statements read out in court, Deron was convinced his girlfriend was possessed because ‘she leapt on him’ while shouting incomprehensibly.

She had met her alleged assailants in 2008, through the Seventh Day Adventists, an America-based Protestant church which has millions of followers throughout the world.

Jacques Bourdais, barrister for the defendants, told French news agency AFP: ‘To them, she was possessed, that is why they did not call a doctor.

'You call a doctor when someone is sick, when someone is possessed you exorcise them.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Religion; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: exorcism; uk

1 posted on 10/14/2013 4:02:26 PM PDT by Kip Russell
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To: Kip Russell
I'm pretty sure this is not Adventist doctrine. The perps could be more accurately described as freelance crazies.

I hope the court throws the book a them. And I do hope the poor torture victim.

2 posted on 10/14/2013 4:05:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dies irae, Dies illa, / Solvet saeclum in favilla / Teste David et Sybilla.)
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To: Kip Russell
the Seventh Day Adventists, an America-based Protestant church which has millions of followers throughout the world.

Really? This always struck me as a "1970s religion", I guess because the only 7DA folks I knew were when I was a kid. I don't know anyone I've met as an adult who subscribed to it.

3 posted on 10/14/2013 4:09:09 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Kip Russell
Her tormentors are accused of tying her up like Jesus on the cross,

Jesus was nailed to a cross. He may or may not have been tied up also. But he wasn't just tied up on a cross.

4 posted on 10/14/2013 4:09:58 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: workerbee
the Seventh Day Adventists, an America-based Protestant church which has millions of followers throughout the world.

Really? This always struck me as a "1970s religion", I guess because the only 7DA folks I knew were when I was a kid. I don't know anyone I've met as an adult who subscribed to it.

They're a cult, pure and simple. They do not hold to orthodox Christian beliefs and should not be labeled a "protestant" church.

5 posted on 10/14/2013 4:26:10 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Read the article. The Adventists claim that these in question were run off from cult before this cruelty took place.


6 posted on 10/14/2013 4:27:55 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Kip Russell

I know of an Episcopalian diocese who hands over all of their cases of exorcism to the Catholic diocese because one of their Episcopal priests went mad while trying to perform an exorcism.


7 posted on 10/14/2013 4:36:40 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“all from the French Caribbean”

There’s some amount of superstitious practices in that region. Perhaps, that was a bit of an influence, but the extreme abuse was pure craziness.


8 posted on 10/14/2013 4:37:49 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: ducttape45
They do not hold to orthodox Christian beliefs

That is incorrect. Maybe you are thinking of Jehovahs Witnesses.

7DA's absolutely believe in the Trinity and the Divinity of Christ.

9 posted on 10/14/2013 4:38:36 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule the all)
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To: RitaOK

Thank you: yes. This is not Adventism.


10 posted on 10/14/2013 4:39:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dies irae, Dies illa, / Solvet saeclum in favilla / Teste David et Sybilla.)
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To: ducttape45

I beg to differ. Perhaps you’re confused. The people I know who are 7DA are quite into the Trinity. The whole vegetarian thing is a little wierd....


11 posted on 10/14/2013 4:55:18 PM PDT by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: Kip Russell; TheOldLady; Salamander; Daffynition; humblegunner; Vendome; 50mm
"Deron was convinced his girlfriend was possessed because ‘she leapt on him’ while shouting incomprehensibly."

Well, of course she was incomprehensible you silly ninny!

She was speaking French!
12 posted on 10/14/2013 4:56:04 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi; Kip Russell; TheOldLady; Salamander; Daffynition; humblegunner; Vendome; 50mm

13 posted on 10/14/2013 5:03:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: HollyB

There’s a saying. Haiti is 95% Catholic and 100% Voodoo.


14 posted on 10/14/2013 5:06:02 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: shibumi; Kip Russell; Salamander; Daffynition; humblegunner; Vendome; 50mm

Pretty rough weight-loss clinic, I’d say.


15 posted on 10/14/2013 5:34:21 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: DJ MacWoW; vpintheak
Sorry guys, not mistaken.

Facts Seventh-day Adventists Won't Tell You

Seventh-Day Adventism - Orthodox or Cult?

Is Seventh-day Adventism a cult?

Seventh Day Adventist Cult

It's a cult, pure and simple.

16 posted on 10/14/2013 5:38:13 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45; vpintheak
I tried reading the crap you found and it's just that, garbage.

Our local 7DA joins in ecumenical services.

17 posted on 10/14/2013 5:45:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule the all)
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To: ducttape45; DJ MacWoW; vpintheak
It's a cult, pure and simple.

Speaking as someone who's on the outside looking in (so to speak) when it comes to religion...

When using the word, "cult": are we speaking of the "Jim Jones drink the Kool-Aid obey the charismatic leader's every word" style cult, or the "Golly, the neighbors are nice, but their religion is just so...weird" cult?

18 posted on 10/14/2013 5:58:26 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: ifinnegan

Exactly. I don’t think it had anything to do with 7th Day Adventist. They may have joined the 7th day adventist, but probably never let go of their voodoo culture from the French Caribbean.


19 posted on 10/14/2013 6:39:03 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Kip Russell

I had knee surgery in Porter Hospital in Denver go wrong and I was there for 17 days. The 7AD meals were the worst in my life. I’m not surprised their adherents went bat-shit crazy.


20 posted on 10/14/2013 7:03:06 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: namvolunteer
The 7AD meals were the worst in my life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_Church#Health_and_diet

No shrimp, scallops or lobster...ever? No bacon? Aaaarrrrgggghhh!

21 posted on 10/14/2013 7:09:00 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The French Caribbean - isn’t that Haiti? Just asking. Sounds like they are mixing a bit of Christianity with voodoo.


22 posted on 10/14/2013 7:36:39 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: shibumi; TheOldLady; Salamander; Daffynition; humblegunner; Vendome
Maybe it was just miscommunication.


23 posted on 10/14/2013 8:17:41 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: 50mm

Yup, mis communication.

I should have pinged you here -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3078980/posts?page=31#31


24 posted on 10/14/2013 8:20:16 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 50mm; shibumi; TheOldLady; Daffynition; humblegunner; Vendome

Glad I am that I don’t live there.

>:-)


25 posted on 10/14/2013 10:02:09 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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To: Gumdrop

I have old, valued friends who did mission work in the “French Caribbean.” area Oh, the stories they would tell! La VouDou is, I would say, definitely implicated.


26 posted on 10/15/2013 2:57:52 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my all.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Facts are facts. You may think it's "garbage" but the core beliefs of 7DA are not in line with mainline protestant Christianity.

And just because they join in on ecumenical services does not legitimize their system of beliefs. If anything, it makes them even MORE suspicious.

Sorry, but 7DA are in the same category as Mormonism and Jehovah Witnesses, just to name a few, in being labeled as a cult.

27 posted on 10/15/2013 7:39:40 AM PDT by ducttape45
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To: Salamander; 50mm; shibumi; TheOldLady; humblegunner; Vendome
I shy away from these religion threads, lest I say something *untoward*.


28 posted on 10/15/2013 11:14:50 AM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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To: Daffynition

LOL.....I’m habitually “untoward”...;)


29 posted on 10/15/2013 12:50:37 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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To: Salamander

I *knew* you’d understand! ....and that voodoo dolls have feelings too. :)


30 posted on 10/15/2013 3:22:51 PM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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