Posted on 10/14/2013 7:28:08 PM PDT by dynachrome
mosin-nagant
The Mosin-nagant is an old school bolt action rifle from Russia. Originally designed by a drunk Russian engineer and an even more drunk Belgian gunsmith, who drew up blueprints on napkins in the back of a pub somewhere in Siberia in a vodka-induced stupor. The Mosin-nagant fires the 7.62x54r cartridge, which can kill a polar bear at a thousand yards and keep going right through the tree he was standing in front of. The Mosin-nagant was used by the Russians in both world wars, so it's killed more Germans than collisions on the autobahn and under-cooked sauerkraut combined. Surplus Mosins can be found at gunshops in the States for like a hundred bucks on sale, and ammo is cheap surplus, so this is what real men shoot who don't want to drop $1299.99 on an AR-15 which fires a .22 round and that's made out of recycled milk jugs and Legos. Many of them come with a bayonet that's roughly the size of the sword William Wallace used in Braveheart. In the absence of gun oil, you can clean a Mosin by pissing down the barrel and wiping the bolt off with a dirty rag that you found on the floor in a Grease Monkey. Try that with a rifle that was designed less than 50 years ago.
Joe: " I need a rifle that is ten feet long and fires anti-tank rounds, but Ive only got 200 dollars!"
Ivan: "Amerikan comrade, you need mosin-nagant . Spend 100 on the rifle, fifty on case of ammo, use rest for vodka!"
In Soviet Russia, rifle fire you!!!
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I have a 1937 Mosin-Nagant.
...and the MN is the rifle my son most wants to buy. I’m not sure if I should be proud of his appreciation for old-school bolt actions, or question his sanity. I think I’m going with the old school. His other favorite rifle is my grand dad’s old lever action, short barrelled 30-30 “saddle gun.” Which oddly enough saw a lot of time in a scabbard on horseback.
My son’s first rifle.
I love it!
So basically it’s the round not the rifle that fires it. Same round different rifle should produce the same result, yes?
Cabelas has had a pretty good selection of 91/30s lately. Sale prices have ranged from $130 to $170. otherwise $200.
(picked up a 1947 ex-sniper last month.)
Nice!
“The Mosin-nagant fires the 7.62x54r cartridge, which can kill a polar bear at a thousand yards and keep going right through the tree he was standing in front of. “
Where are the polar bears going to get shade if you kill all the trees”
The carbine version can rattle yer teeth with military surplus ammo.
The author forgot to mention that this rifle kicks like a mule. I love mine. My friends call it the elephant gun.
The best lever action I have ever owned was a 94 Winchester. It was a post 64 model and was sold under the name of J.C. Higgins.The action was made of iron and had lost most of it’s blueing. The iron must have been OK as I shot it a lot and there were no problems of any kind as far as functioning.
Someone had installed a very good Redfield receiver sight. They just left the front bead alone. It is the only lever action of the 30/30 or any other cartridge originally made for lever actions which was really accurate.
I shot around 1to 2 inch groups at 100 yards. most of my other 30/30 lever rifles have been half that good or even worse.
Like every other really good gun I have ever bought, I ended up trading it or selling it. Usually because I needed money.
Local gun shop typically has 8 or 10 on the wall in the 100 to 200 range. Seem to be in decent shape. If/when he gets more serious about buying one we’ll start looking closer. Anything in particular we should be looking for? Known wear spots or places where hidden ccorrosion likes to lurk?
I’ve owned a couple M-Ns, Yesm they look likr fugitives from a blacksmith shop but they can surprise you, The key is decent ammo, much of the surplus Eastern block stuff being crap. There is non-corrosive commercial ammo available. While a bit pricey, it can be a big difference. Friend of mibe has one of the snioer rifles and, with Dellers-Beloit ammunition, that ugly old clunker was printing 1#1/2 inches at 200 yards.
Bfl
Damn skippy, every time I go shooting with mine I come home with a very sore shoulder. The only thing I don’t like is not being able to find any non-corrosive ammo.
Finland reworked Mosins in their armories and used them in the 2 wars against the Soviets in WWII. Most have hexagonal receivers instead of the usual round ones.
I want one!!!
Well I did fire a .300Winmag once, just once.
Great book: the Mosin-Nagant Rifle, 6th Edition by Terence Lapin, 2013.
He explains every identifying mark on the rifle as well as production details.
Who was it that said they had a Mossy?
If performance is taken to be energy delivered on target as specific ranges, the longer barrel will deliver more energy, and generally so do more accurately.
YMMV.
I like to look for all stamped matching serial numbers. Most are refurbs so the bolt has been scrubbed and restamped. Good conditon bore and no cracks in the stock. I have rarely seen rust on a mosin. Many are coated in cosmoline. and shellac on the stock. find one that speaks to you
All things Mosin here, lot’s of info, maybe too much:
(Obligatory link posting)
Got two.
One for me and one for #1 Son.
Both Russian, with bayonets, slings & ammo pouches.
Ammo by the case - with can openers.
More fun than anything else you can get for $100!
Not only that, but where is a Polar bear going to find a tree to hide behind in the Arctic?
Great mouse gun!
For those rather sizable Texas mice?
Ping.
CC
“Like every other really good gun I have ever bought, I ended up trading it or selling it. Usually because I needed money.”
Just came off 16 yrs casino child support...I understand this pain...
I like Mosin Nagants and have owned several but they are not as good as the 98 mauser. I bought this one for just under $100 and the dealer threw in 200 rounds of corrosive Egyptian 8X57. It came in canvas carrier and it was still in stripper clips. I love getting those stripper clips as they really speed up reloading. This is a Yugoslavian Mauser made of FN machinery and is an oddball as the action is just a bit shorter than the German actions. Otherwise it is pure Mauser with a roughly 24 inch barrel.
I love the darn thing. I shot a couple of postal matches with one afternoon - between sighting in, a few practice shots, I shot a total of about 70 rounds.
For the next two weeks I couldn’t raise my arms more than a few inches.
Didn’t go to the doc, though, I wasn’t going to spend $200 on an orthopaedic visit over a $60 rifle.
My favorite.
Stuff you know if you have an AK
You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick.
Stuff you know if you have an AR
You can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith, it’s under warranty!
Stuff you know if you have a Mosin Nagant
If your rifle breaks, you buy a new one.
Found out that the Winchester Model 1895 was also chambered in this caliber. At the link it lists the other rifles and machine guns that use it. I’m just wondering if any of those other rifles listed are available for sale in the USA.
The round is also known as “the Russian .30-06” by some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9754mmR
First Mosin-Nagant I got to shoot was Model 91/30 a friend bought for 80 bucks. Damn thing shot better than my high(er) dollar rifle. Only problem was it was damn near four and a half feet long. So I went out an bought a M44 carbine with the attached bayonet. Does not shoot quiet as well. But still shoots as well as the high priced spread. I figured I would remove the bayonet, sporterize it, add a scope and use it for a deer rifle or what ever. Long story short, I did nothing to it and just use it against targets at the local range. Russian Ammunition is cheap to shoot even though not reloadable and is pretty dirty. Plus the darn thing is just plain fun to shoot once or twice a month and I still have a cool looking rifle hanging in the office.
“Same round different rifle should produce the same result, yes?”
Not necessary. Like dancing, it take two to tango. The model 91 was used as a scoped sniper rifles against the Germans in the battle for Moscow. I remember reading that a Russian sniper was taking out German officers regularly 1500 yards. Combination of long barrel and excellent rifling. Along with a very good cartridge. I do not think the results would have been the same with any different combination.
hell with the gun, I want to know WHERE one can see a polar bear standing in front of a tree. LOL An ice berg maybe but a TREE.
Hey, the MN is just like the Mauser, or the Springfield. They just take a beating and keep on ticking.
Finnish recaptures reputed to be more accurate than the Russians. Check headspace with a go/no-go gauge, check for good bore, and clean the chamber aggressively.
Most common issues are “sticky bolt syndrome” and high target impact at shorter ranges b/c the front sight post is “too short.” Both curable issues in most cases.
Light ball surplus ammunition is plentiful, heavy ball less so, and Brown Bear last I checked, still makes a 203 gr soft point rounds. I’d feel adequately equipped hunting anything on the North American continent with that load.
I saw “Enemy At The Gates” story about Stalingrad. Not too sure about the total authenticity of the story but good sniper action.
I killed a Care Bear in front of a tree at 300 yrds once...with my trusty Mod 94 .357mag....hell of a lob shot!
If you find Nazi blood stains on the butt plate, it means the rifle’s been considerably used and will likely hold up for many more years.
This is also the gun that Simo Hayha used to get all 505 of his confirmed sniper kills against the Russians in the Winter War. That’s the most confirmed sniper kills in any war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4
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