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Model student punished for helping drunk friend get home safely
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| 10-15-2013
| Robby Soave
Posted on 10/15/2013 7:29:05 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: mmichaels1970
And an anonymous report to the police could have prevented EVERYBODY at the party from hurting themselves or someone else. Yep -- when she got that message about her friend being drunk at the party, she should have hopped into her TARDIS, gone back a few hours, and phoned in a tip.
To: Silentgypsy
Or is this a private school?
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posted on
10/15/2013 8:17:16 AM PDT
by
Silentgypsy
(the seed spawn of zor-ketthraa!.)
To: mmichaels1970
I personally know somebody who was drugged and raped at an underage drinking party.It happens at regular parties as well. Not making a moral equivalence here but actions and events need to be judged justly
'Rating someone out" depends on the seriousness of the actual offense. I would not encourage my children to rat everyone out for every offense. I would like to know about it for sure if it is serious and there could be much harm being done but it is not Christian to "rat" people out for every offense.
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posted on
10/15/2013 8:23:20 AM PDT
by
frogjerk
(We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
To: Guttlekraw
Two weeks ago, a friend of 17-year-old Erin Cox messaged her and said she was too drunk to drive home from a party she was attending in Boxford
I don't see that mentioned in the story posted here.
To: Orangedog
Maybe in a time when every suburb didnt have a SWAT team and we werent living in a police state, but these a very different timesYou are correct because I have seen this type of party being broken up by the local police force. Totally over the top and abusive rather than an "everybody OUT!" type of solution. They were eventually sued and the family won, I believe, for excessive force.
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posted on
10/15/2013 8:26:52 AM PDT
by
frogjerk
(We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
To: Guttlekraw
Yep -- when she got that message about her friend being drunk at the party, she should have hopped into her TARDIS, gone back a few hours, and phoned in a tip.
The way I read it was that she know about it ahead of time. But I probably read it wrong based on other info provided by others here.
By the way, I do not agree with her punishment. I also do not agree with "zero tolerance" bs.
I'm simply having trouble looking at her as a hero in this situation. A good friend, maybe, but not a hero.
To: frogjerk
You are correct because I have seen this type of party being broken up by the local police force. Totally over the top and abusive rather than an "everybody OUT!" type of solution.
I guess the over the top and abusive thing hasn't hit my community yet. Parties still get busted up around here with no arrests but a bunch of calls home to parents to come pick their drunk kid up.
We've got some great police in my area. I went to school with a bunch of them and still have a beer with a few every now and then.
I suppose our local community has been lucky in that respect.
To: servo1969
Government (public) school is child abuse.
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posted on
10/15/2013 8:30:22 AM PDT
by
Navy Patriot
(Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
To: frogjerk
“Everyone on her team should put a C for Captain on her uniform. She got off her butt and did the right thing.”
Everyone in her school should sit out the same days this girl is being suspended as a statement of support for her. Additionally, the parents of this school should take up a vigorous program to immediately fire any and all teachers, administration and board members who had anything to do with this. And, I mean vigorous ......
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posted on
10/15/2013 8:40:55 AM PDT
by
snoringbear
(E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
To: mmichaels1970
So, doesn’t it stand to reason if she is a model student and didn’t do anything wrong, she should have at least anonymously reported this before it happened?
***
Glad I’m not the only one who is questioning the girl’s actions. No matter how noble her intentions, she was wrong. Perhaps she should have let the friend’s parents know what was going on.
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posted on
10/15/2013 8:56:43 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
To: DesertRhino
This is a good idea. A general strike. F^&%^ ‘em.
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posted on
10/15/2013 9:16:06 AM PDT
by
The Antiyuppie
("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
To: servo1969
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posted on
10/15/2013 9:20:01 AM PDT
by
LRoggy
(Peter's Son's Business)
To: mmichaels1970; Bigg Red; All
Oh c’mon, did you ever go to high school?? You really think ratting out your friends would be a better solution than trying to help them?? So I suppose that if you found out a few of your buddies were having a little poker game, you’d call the cops on them?
To: mmichaels1970
Calling the cops would’ve only led to a lot of dead dogs in the neighborhood of the party. What do you have against dogs. What has a dog ever done to you to deserve a 5.56 to coconut.
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posted on
10/15/2013 9:35:12 AM PDT
by
gusty
To: MrB
The purpose of zero tolerance policies is to allow officials to maintain positions of authority You have explained the result but not the purpose.
The "purpose" is to ensure a continuing source of unconstitutional dollars from the Public Treasury. "Zero Tolerance" is an invention of the Federal Government to control state issues when the Constitution doesn't empower them to do so.
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posted on
10/15/2013 9:37:52 AM PDT
by
MosesKnows
(Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
To: servo1969
To regressives, good is bad and bad is good. Same as Satan. What a coincidence!
To: RadiationRomeo
Maybe Im reading this wrong, but this girl did not get a desperate midnight call from her friend for help. The girl attended the party from the beginning knowing full well that it is a violation of the athletic policy. Is this the case? I think you are reading it wrong. The other accounts of this story that I have read say that the girl received a call from her friend and went to pick her up so she wouldn't drive drunk.
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posted on
10/15/2013 9:40:21 AM PDT
by
CA Conservative
(Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
To: servo1969
At least Ted Kennedy isn’t around to drive her home.
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posted on
10/15/2013 9:40:48 AM PDT
by
TurboZamboni
(Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
To: frogjerk
'Rating someone out" depends on the seriousness of the actual offense. I would not encourage my children to rat everyone out for every offense. I would like to know about it for sure if it is serious and there could be much harm being done but it is not Christian to "rat" people out for every offense. It goes beyond that. The people who would call the police because someone might be or is going to have a party are the same people who will turn you in for having a gun or stored food or unacceptable political views in the later stages of decline. It's probably not a bad idea to learn who just who these types are in your community to make sure you give them the mushroom treatment starting yesterday.
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posted on
10/15/2013 9:44:43 AM PDT
by
Orangedog
(An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
To: Bigg Red
Glad Im not the only one who is questioning the girls actions. No matter how noble her intentions, she was wrong. Perhaps she should have let the friends parents know what was going on. You are making a big assumption that does not seem to be supported by the facts as reported so far. You are assuming that she knew about the party in advance, and that she knew there would be alcohol there. All we know for sure is that she received a message from her friend who was at the party, saying she was too drunk to drive home.
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posted on
10/15/2013 9:45:19 AM PDT
by
CA Conservative
(Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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