Abolish FReepathons.
Go monthly!!
Posted on 10/15/2013 1:53:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
Just saw the statement from Pelosi.. that the bill the House is putting on the floor is "a decision to default"
Sounds like an out and out rejection to me.
The Republicans couldn't give much more!!! WTF!
This reminds me of when Israel gave Yasir Arafatass EVERYTHING... and they STILL rejected it.
Go monthly!!
If we default.. Obama should be IMPEACHED immediately!
We have the money to NOT default. The default would be HIS choice to try and bring pain on the American people.
One must remember that Obama is the one who has total control over whether or not the bills and interest on our debt get paid. The House GOP cannot actually stop him from doing exactly that. Repeat that as often as possible until the public understands.
Did Pelosi say that just now? Where did you hear this?
No, it just means that our next payment that’s due on 11/15 will still be due on 11/15. And Jack Lew’s arbitrary date will have been shown to be the political sham that it always was.
Yep!
And... the fact that there is plenty of money available in order to avoid default.
He will CHOOSE to default in order to blame the mess on Republicans.
It will backfire..
It it linked at the post. Chad Pergram Foxnews Producer just reported it.
translation: the debt ceiling may not be raised, and prezzy is not going to pay our creditors with the treasury’s revenue stream, in violation of the constitution
One more violation won’t phase the loon in chief.
Perhaps a default will slow this beast (not just Pelosi) down a bit.
Some stand must be taken somewhere, somehow.
I’ve been preparing a bit. Hope the rest of y’all have, too.
Has anyone considered Obama et al WANT this default? Just let your mind wander what they could then do.
THAT is why the GOP should have kicked the can down the road for 2 months at a time.
You are in agreement with the great one, Mark Levin. We cannot go into default unless 0bama decides to violate the 14th amendment.
They plan to start an economic fire and blame it on the Republicans.
Just like Hitler did with the Reichstag.
Yes I think he WANTS to.
They WANT a crisis.
Obama has never paid his own bills in life.
Why would he start now?
BANG ON!
IMPEACH!
He, much like the Muslims all over the world, want a huge fight.
He is on a jihad and welcomes the fight it sounds like. He wants chaos, a crisis, so he can implement his plans.
Bttt
Thanks for the bttt
If the Dems make us default- and the media wasn’t able to hide that- the media will say default’s a wonderful thing.
Might be worth it to hear that narrative...
(Don’t expect a default.)
The sky is falling. Repeat, the sky is falling.
I’m expecting us to default.. because Obama wants us to default.
Then I fully expect him to attempt to blame the default on Republicans.
This guy is no mystery anymore. You can see his political moves from a mile away.
What was it Szu Tzu said about anger.. Yep!
Probably. There is a method to their madness.
Nonetheless, there is a severe problem. Bad economies ALWAYS get blamed on the current guy. Always.
But it will be a Pyrrhic victory. The low-information, low-wage earning, poor-slob-out-of-a-job (like many of Americans) is about to find out just what kind of “change” they voted for.
It ain’t going to be pretty.
Failure to lift the debt limit does not equal default.
Yes they are two different things.
We have the money in order to avoid default. If we default it will be because Obama CHOSE to.
Much like the National Parks, etc.
Good! We need to stop this illegal welfare state and not pass it on to our children!
ping!
Obama chooses to default..
I believe that Mark would agree that if given the choice between violating the 14th Amendment or violating Article I (and unilaterally raising the debt ceiling), obama will choose the latter.
I think if he could find a way he would violate both!
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.
It appears our "Contitutional scholar" would have to defy the Constitution in order to engineer a default.
But, we all know that he will always follow the law. /sarc
Default! Default!
That would be nothing to him. He defies the Constitution before his morning piss on most days I am sure.
Agreed. The regime and their co-conspirators have been setting the table for quite a while.
No one cares what Obama wants.
If his masters are positioned to make more money from a rise in treasury rates then he will certainly try to default.
However that can be thwarted by Republicans ‘surrendering’- which would then mean huge losses for his masters.
In conclusion his masters are not positioned to profit from a default so there won’t be one.
It’s just too risky to bet against Republicans surrendering!
I have a different take. I’ve never seen this sort of brinksmanship “crisis” get solved before the 11th hour (and the 59th minute). It’s all part of the “art of the deal”. Both sides think that whatever deal they can get now, they can get a better one if they wait. I’ve always seen it work this way. My prediction is that it will go down to the wire and then they’ll breathlessly announce that a miraculous way has been found to crawl back from the abyss.
BTTT!
Hmm you make valid points here.
My point is.. I’ve seen him do things and operate purely out of anger. Such anger that it hurts him politically but he doesn’t seem to care.
Depending on what kind of reign his masters have over him.
bttt
Hopefully it ends with some Polonium.
Wont default. We have months. Yes, months to go before we even come close to default.
We WILL get downgraded, and that might be enough to push us over the brink through higher interest rates.
We will see war before we see default.
We are living in dangerous times.
I’m saying we won’t default because we “have” to.
We will default because Obama chooses to default and because he chooses to violate the Constitution.
We have the money to NOT default.
But if I know such so much about high finance how come I haven’t moved up into one of those purty doublewides...
Lol good question!
You probably know more than me!
There are reports that the USDA will shut down EBT cards in November so if so Obama is recruiting his army.
Oh yeah he’s planning for a full scale revolt, riot, etc.
Mark my words. If we give them ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THEY ASK FOR, they will reject it and tack on Amnesty and a complete Gun Ban.
Yep!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw something about that this morning. Do you think it is legitimate?
“Has anyone considered Obama et al WANT this default? Just let your mind wander what they could then do/”
Already have and he doesn’t. A default means interest rates will skyrocket. That makes borrowing very difficult as well as selling T-bills due to the hit on credit worthiness.
Ask yourself this: which party’s constituents are most dependent upon government borrowing and spending?
They can blame Rs all they want but the Dems are in charge and this is where they’ve brought their supports. Queue the comparisons with Detroit, Newark, etc.
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