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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 42, OCTOBER 18, 2013
Free Republic | October 18, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 10/18/2013 1:07:54 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; garden; gardening; hobby
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1 posted on 10/18/2013 1:07:54 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


2 posted on 10/18/2013 1:12:53 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
The ping?

My replacement batch of cabbage seedlings got put under the cold-frame today. We had enough rain that the extra batch of wheat I sowed has germinated and started coming up from last Friday. Rain barrel is full, life is ticking over adequately.

/johnny

3 posted on 10/18/2013 1:12:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
Hope your trip went well, greeneyes. I finally found a solution to extend our tomatoes,
something easy to put together and move into place. I figure if we get two tomatoes
from it, we'll have two prize $35 tomatoes. :)
4 posted on 10/18/2013 1:19:42 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy
I could live in that...

/johnny

5 posted on 10/18/2013 1:20:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Does anyone here have experience growing dahlias and EATING the tubers? I’m trying to grow edible plants wherever possible in my front yard.


6 posted on 10/18/2013 1:21:24 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ha! Good one!


7 posted on 10/18/2013 1:21:26 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Marcella; All

Ping is on the way. Marcella has a bunch of pictures on photobucket that she would like posted. I don’t really know how to do this, if someone would give me some instructions, I would try to do it for her.

It’s a nice day today in the 60’s and sun is shining. Well be down in the forties and high thirties the rest of the week, with chance of rain on Monday.

I have dug up and transplanted 5 peppers and 2 tomato plants to pots to bring in to the house. Will be setting up the indoor garden this weekend. I like to line the cart where the light is with aluminum foil.

I have tomatoes, peppers and watermelons still trying to ripen. I will be getting some plastic to try and take advantage of the sun shine and heat up the environment enough to try and accomplish that.

I have the bed prepared for the lettuce, spinach and carrots, should have already had that going by now. I need to finish clearing out one of the tomato beds to prep it for the garlic.

Gotta make hay while the sun shines-except I need the first frost before I plant the winter wheat. Probably will wind up planting more rye than planned, if I get tired of waiting for the wheat.LOL

Have a great weekend. God Bless.


8 posted on 10/18/2013 1:22:16 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Thanks for the thread and the ping.

Depending on how low the temps get tonight it may well be the end of gardening in the garden proper for this season. I picked over a bushel plus of beans yesterday and today, got the sweet potatoes dug and sorted. Hopefully it won't get too cold to zap the fall snow peas that are in full bloom. Tomatoes and green and yellow hot peppers picked and await some kind of processing... Last watermelon picked ... now wait for the leaves to fall to get collected for IF I put out a big garden next year mulch.

Oh weeded one of the strawberry beds and mulched with sawdust earlier in the week. They look really happy to have those weeds removed.

Dang I am exhausted ... a very cold rain has moved in and the plants I would like to save over the winter have been put in my tiny greenhouse. My body is ready to hibernate until spring.

9 posted on 10/18/2013 1:23:48 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: greeneyes

How do I put my garden “to bed”? Right now, it looks like Miss Michelle’s garden.


10 posted on 10/18/2013 1:24:15 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: greeneyes; Marcella
Send me the links or pics via regular email, Marco and I will make it happen.

/johnny

11 posted on 10/18/2013 1:26:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mlizzy

Well that’s kinda fancy, and sure does look pretty. I was thinking along the same lines though. Hubby usually has some plastic around for his concrete work, and several of those lights that have a metal case and hook to hang up when you work on cars.

I have a small stockpile of 100 watt bulbs, and I was thinking that I could kinda do that. We have an outdoor electic recepticale on the retaining wall just about 4 feet away from the tomatoes.

It should work to hurry stuff up a bit. Tomatoes don’t do much other than hang on when the nights get less than 50. If Mo. weather acts like usual we could get a freeze, followed by Indian Summer like weather with high 70s in day and 60s in the night.


12 posted on 10/18/2013 1:28:30 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: miss marmelstein
I've used a flamethrower.

And a lawnmower.

Generally, I just pull up the big stuff and compost it and then till in the rest.

On the no-till part of the garden, I pull up the big stuff to compost and just leave it with a top-dressing of yummy bacteria food.

/johnny

13 posted on 10/18/2013 1:28:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Try this:
Posting an image

If the picture is already on the web (or if you have stored your own in a hosting site such as Shutterfly or Flickr) just right click on it to reveal its “properties”. Copy the properties by highlighting, keying CTRL and C, and transfer them to your clipboard.
Then type < img src=” and type CTRL plus V and end the phrase with “> The only caution is that there should be no spaces between the < and the img. The only space is between the img and the src.
So, it goes like this:
< img src=”URL of your picture”> with no space between the < and the img.


14 posted on 10/18/2013 1:28:50 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (the seed spawn of zor-ketthraa!.)
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To: Nepeta

Ha. No. We grow dandelions in the front yard, and roses for our edibles.


15 posted on 10/18/2013 1:29:43 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

Oops. Ping to #14.


16 posted on 10/18/2013 1:30:59 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (the seed spawn of zor-ketthraa!.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You throw this stuff on a compost pile? My tired-looking tomato plants?


17 posted on 10/18/2013 1:33:05 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

As long as it doesn’t look like Miss Michelle, you’re doin’ good!


18 posted on 10/18/2013 1:33:07 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (the seed spawn of zor-ketthraa!.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

As usual, a dollar short and a day late. Have at it!


19 posted on 10/18/2013 1:33:58 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (the seed spawn of zor-ketthraa!.)
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To: greeneyes
I'm thinking about trying to grow some apple trees from seed.

I had a ratty old apple tree that I cut down years ago and then let it grow back from the root. After about 10 years its producing good apples again and now I want more. I don't know what kind of apples they are but they're very hard and very sweet

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20 posted on 10/18/2013 1:34:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: miss marmelstein
I put everything in the compost pile. Weeds, dead veggies, kitchen scraps, inattentive city workers, grass clippings, weeds...

I do run my compost pile pretty hot to kill off bad bacteria.

/johnny

21 posted on 10/18/2013 1:36:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Those metal case lights would be a good idea. I might get me one of those as there’s a place to hang from in the corner. I see what you mean about them just hanging on though. We’ve only had 2-3 tomatoes since we moved in in Sept., but boy, oh boy, even though they weren’t quite as tasty as the hot summers ones, they were still better than anything store bought. So I hope we can get a couple few more anyway. Maybe I’ll get two (or ten!) of those metal case lights. -lol-


22 posted on 10/18/2013 1:37:37 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: cripplecreek
Johnny Appleseed says: "Go for it, what can it hurt?"

/johnny (not appleseed)

23 posted on 10/18/2013 1:37:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Anyone know of some veg or edible plant to put in a shady spot? I don’t understand if glads can grow there that beans should. I figured beans would grow up to the light and be ok but apparently not. Well, not when critters eat them but still.


24 posted on 10/18/2013 1:38:00 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ha! Try to put Rinos in if you can catch them!


25 posted on 10/18/2013 1:38:33 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: cripplecreek

Apples don’t reproduce true from seed.

What you can do is find some rootstock and/or someone who is familiar with grafting and graft some sprigs of your tree on to some appropriate rootstock.

What you may have is the rootstock itself. Since you mentioned you let it grow from the root.

IF so, then just root some cuttings next spring when it starts to bud out. Lots of places on the net that give advice/tips on that. My only added tip would be to pick a root/transplant day from the farmers almanac calendar.


26 posted on 10/18/2013 1:38:53 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: miss marmelstein

Well, here’s what I do-can’t swear that it is any good. I rip out all the old plants. Those that look diseased (cukes and tomatoes usually)I put in the burn pile.

The healthy looking stalks and stuff either get added to the compost heap or I just dig a trench in the bed throw in the plants and cover them up.

Then I either pile on a bunch of leaves on top, or plant them with winter soil improvers like winter rye or hairy vetch. In the around late Feb or March I plant red clover to turn under for green manure a few weeks before planting.


27 posted on 10/18/2013 1:40:02 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Black Agnes
Hybrid apples and grafts don't reproduce true from seed.

Non-hybrid apples do great from seed. This is a non-graft, so that doesn't apply.

/johnny

28 posted on 10/18/2013 1:41:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Just mythoughts

I always feel like hibernating with a cup of hot coffe, tea, or cocoa etc once the winter comes. I hate cold weather. I try to avoid going out side at all till spring.LOL


29 posted on 10/18/2013 1:42:17 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: bgill
Tobacco is taking the shady spots in 2014 in my garden.

/johnny

30 posted on 10/18/2013 1:42:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bgill

Miner’s lettuce, and chives grow well in the shade.


31 posted on 10/18/2013 1:45:53 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: cripplecreek

Go for it. Get several started so that if something gets one maybe the other survives. Nothing to lose by trying.


32 posted on 10/18/2013 1:48:03 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

These aren’t the apples the tree used to produce before I cut it down. The neighbor seems to think I’m getting the apples the rootstock originally produced.


33 posted on 10/18/2013 1:48:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JRandomFreeper; cripplecreek

http://www.gardenguides.com/91099-reproduction-apple-trees.html

Seems to be pretty thorough. Since you don’t really know what type of apple you have your best bet for reproducing that particular one seems to be grafting or just rooting some sprigs.

If you don’t know of any other apple trees nearby planting the seeds would probably work too although they might not be that *exact* variety.

It sounds like what you’ve got is a ‘rootstock’ plant though. And if you like that one enough to eat it if it were me I’d just take cuttings and root them. No need to graft on something tolerant of cold or soil diseases as that’s why things are usually grafted.

Lucky you.


34 posted on 10/18/2013 1:48:51 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes

Everything I’m reading says 30% germination for apple seed is pretty standard.

I’ll plant a couple dozen. If they sprout I’ll keep a couple for myself and give the rest away.


35 posted on 10/18/2013 1:50:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
If you like 'em and they eat well or ferment well, go for it.

Most fruit seeds do need a season of cold before they germinate. Some also like to be lightly scored.

Your mileage may vary, batteries not included.

/johnny

36 posted on 10/18/2013 1:50:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek
Always a good idea to plant plenty of extras. You can give away or compost any that you don't need.

/johnny

37 posted on 10/18/2013 1:52:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

You really know what you are doing. Sadly, I couldn’t even find winter rye when I looked for it several years ago...

I, mostly, keep a herb garden. Most of them come back the next year. But I’m getting rid of my tomatoes and eggplants and I usually just dump them. They get kinda nasty at this stage...


38 posted on 10/18/2013 1:52:55 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: bgill

Another item: Polk Greens. We have poke greens that grown up to 6 foot tall around one of our walnut trees. Hubby and his family love poke salad and stir fried poke with bacon grease and onions.


39 posted on 10/18/2013 1:53:41 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I started an asparagus bed this year as well. In a few years I’ll actually be able to eat.

I’ve got a couple of pear trees that produce good pears but I’ve got to cut them down because whoever planted them put them too close to my well pit. Thinking about replacing them with paw paws. (I’m a fan of natives)


40 posted on 10/18/2013 1:53:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mlizzy

My cucumber plant is producing A cucumber.


41 posted on 10/18/2013 1:54:52 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: miss marmelstein

Yeh, I don’t usually compost my tomato stuff, because by this time it has ugly stuff starting to attack the leaves.

I have no experience with egg plant.


42 posted on 10/18/2013 1:55:58 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Hello Miss M. . . . Lowe’s and Home Depot carry Rye Grass seeds.


43 posted on 10/18/2013 1:56:50 PM PDT by HopeandGlory (Hey, Liberals . . . PC died on 9/11 . . . GET USED TO IT!!!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ll send you the info. by regular email right now.


44 posted on 10/18/2013 2:04:26 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: greeneyes

—Hubby and his family love poke salad and stir fried poke with bacon grease and onions.—

Your hubby sounds like a southern guy.


45 posted on 10/18/2013 2:07:03 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Phil. 4:13)
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To: HopeandGlory

Thanks. I’ll get it. I’ve seen it but I thought maybe it wasn’t the correct thing. I’m probably the worst gardener the world has ever seen - that’s because I don’t know any other gardeners. Sad, really!


46 posted on 10/18/2013 2:12:24 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: tillacum

Ha! We had two squash plants, same thing. A butternut! But it was good... :)


47 posted on 10/18/2013 2:12:40 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: cripplecreek

I started an asparagus bed several years ago until I ran into my waterline.


48 posted on 10/18/2013 2:13:26 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Anyone know what pepper looks somewhat like a habenero but a wee bit larger and only mildly hot? Too hot to eat straight but a nice flavor used in a dish. It starts out very dark green and later a dark red. It looks nothing like the packets I planted.

Thank goodness for the rain. Lake Travis has risen more than a foot but upstream at Buchanan only about an inch last I heard. We’ve had about 1.25” inch nearly every day so the tomatoes are bursting. It sprinkled again this morning just enough so I can’t get out there.


49 posted on 10/18/2013 2:13:59 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Silentgypsy; greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; All

When Wayne was here, he set the stuff on the new camera I got, so I knew what to click to take a picture. It hooks to my computer so I got them in “My Pictures.”

Then, it took me forever to get them on Photobucket. I don’t have the upgraded Photobucket so had to sit through a commercial every time before it loaded one picture, did that picture after picture. I got them all on there with labels on the pictures, then I quit.

I figured someone would know how to get them on here.


50 posted on 10/18/2013 2:17:27 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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