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Feds Will Spend $18M to Develop ‘Reliable’ Climate Change Predictions
Cybercast News Service ^ | October 18, 2013 - 3:52 PM | Barbara Hollingsworth

Posted on 10/19/2013 3:57:48 AM PDT by Olog-hai

The National Science Foundation (NSF) and the U.S. Department of Agriculture have plans to spend up to $18 million over the next five years to develop “reliable” climate change predictions for the next few decades.

The “funding opportunity enables interagency cooperation on one of the most pressing problems of the millennium: climate change and how it is likely to affect our world,” according to NSF’s official request for bids. …

Current methods of predicting future climate change have proved to be wildly inaccurate. For example, none of the 73 computer models used by the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) predicted that there would be no statistically significant global warming for the past 17 years as determined by actual temperature records stored in five different databases worldwide. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Weather; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: climatechangehoax; divination; globalwarminghoax; porkbarrel

1 posted on 10/19/2013 3:57:48 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Now that’s $18M down the black hole on a fool’s errand.


2 posted on 10/19/2013 4:05:12 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Olog-hai

Cloudy with a chance of default.


3 posted on 10/19/2013 4:06:52 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: outofsalt

Never let a funding opportunity go to waste.


4 posted on 10/19/2013 4:09:17 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof .... but they're true)
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To: Olog-hai

The obamacare website started out at a projected $94 mill and ended up being $634 mill and it still does not work. So this will likely end up being more like $200 mill and not work any better than what we have... geezzz


5 posted on 10/19/2013 4:09:23 AM PDT by vet7279
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To: Olog-hai

Garbage in, garbage out. If you LIE about the inputs, the results will always be propaganda, no matter what model you use.


6 posted on 10/19/2013 4:10:27 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Olog-hai

This would be better spent getting next week’s weather forecast right. I can think of a few areas which could use a doppler radar, too.


7 posted on 10/19/2013 4:12:13 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Olog-hai

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls our climates.

3. The earth is a rock.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


8 posted on 10/19/2013 4:14:57 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Olog-hai
Ok campers, rise and shine
and don't forget your booties
because it's COOOLD out there.
9 posted on 10/19/2013 4:22:03 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: abclily
But you can't charge $18M for that, my friend.

For $50 I can draw up a nice chart with the letters BS in it.

10 posted on 10/19/2013 4:24:04 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!! (this post approved by the NSA))
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To: Olog-hai

Read that as money for propaganda


11 posted on 10/19/2013 4:25:02 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Amagi

Al Gore runs the Climate Reality Project. I wonder how much of that $18 billion will go to him.

Maybe someday the people will get enough and some heads will be on pikes.


12 posted on 10/19/2013 4:27:14 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Olog-hai

Well....at least 18 million not going to the Food Stamp program...hahaha


13 posted on 10/19/2013 4:49:25 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: Olog-hai

Let them start with a model that will accurately predict the weather in one month. If they get that right, then work on the model to accurately predict the weather in six months. Then they can work on climate.


14 posted on 10/19/2013 4:52:15 AM PDT by FatherofFive (MIslam is evil and must be eradicate)
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To: Amagi

If I had $18 million to blow on building computer models, I’d fund two: a model that tests the economic and quality of life effects of increases in taxes and regulation, and a nice civil war game to practice which strategies and tactics work best for Americans to cut off and contain the unarmed city slicker communists. I’d distribute free copies of that to every gun owner, soldier, and militia member. It’s nice how ‘rats always pack themselves into nice tight disease ridden urban nests. It makes them easier to eradicate.


15 posted on 10/19/2013 5:04:33 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Olog-hai

The sun has started a decades long cycle of hybernation and lower energy output which will result in a cooling cycle which honest evidence already supports. Women and children hardest hit. Now, where is my $18,000,000.00 check?


16 posted on 10/19/2013 5:16:33 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Olog-hai

It occurs to me that in my quest to make a living and build a life, I missed the best possible career path - political crony.


17 posted on 10/19/2013 5:17:48 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (You can keep your doctor - if you lock him in your basement.)
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To: Olog-hai

There will be no “reliable” climate change model. It’s not a model. A model is a reduced-size reproduction of something real.

Climate models are nothing more than computer programs that solve multiple equations, based on input supplied by the users. The equations don’t and can’t accurately model reality, because they omit, simplify and assume.

Climate reality is too complex to be modeled.


18 posted on 10/19/2013 5:23:26 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Olog-hai
The “funding opportunity enables interagency cooperation on one of the most pressing problems of the millennium: climate change and how it is likely to affect our Taxes"
19 posted on 10/19/2013 5:24:06 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: DYngbld

A $50 chart with the letters BS on it? A bargain, and so accurate and pithy!


20 posted on 10/19/2013 5:25:06 AM PDT by Toucan Dance
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To: SeminoleCounty

Well....at least 18 million not going to the Food Stamp program...hahaha

Let them eat weather...


21 posted on 10/19/2013 5:26:11 AM PDT by Toucan Dance
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To: abclily
You must be an evil, racist, Obama-hating, ignorant, gun-toting, bitter clinger to think that the Earth's climate is controlled by the S-U-N and not the S-U-V!

Learn some Consensus Science, would ya'.

< /SARC>

22 posted on 10/19/2013 5:40:39 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Tried to tell 'em Affirmative Action was a bad idea...Now look what happened!)
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To: Olog-hai
That seems like a lot of money just for "Programmed outcome" results or Liberal proof.
23 posted on 10/19/2013 5:43:42 AM PDT by WesternPacific (The herded sheep have finally arrived at the slaughter house.)
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To: Reeses

“It’s nice how ‘rats always pack themselves into nice tight disease ridden urban nests.”

I’ve never understood this. They are 100% dependent on govt owned or controlled infrastructure for their very own existence. They have no idea how fragile their existence is.


24 posted on 10/19/2013 5:44:34 AM PDT by redfreedom (Republicans = The faux conservative wing of the democrat party.)
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To: Olog-hai

There are too many variables associated with water vapor development and dissipation AND SOLAR ACTIVITY, for them to “improve climate models”.


25 posted on 10/19/2013 6:07:32 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Olog-hai
BIG GOVERNMENT I$ CRONY $OCIALI$M. "Socialism Is Legal Plunder" - Bastiat

The beatings plunder will continue until morale improves.

26 posted on 10/19/2013 6:09:10 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: SC_Pete

That is exactly what they are going to do: spend 18M plus the inevitable 300% overruns and scope creep. In the end all they will have done is figure out a way to manipulate, falsify, and cherry pick data to feed to some bogus computer models that are then used to scare civilians and lawmakers into throwing real money away and infringing even further on our freedoms and liberties. Look for them to identify anything and everything that liberal fascists don’t like as contributing to “the problem”...


27 posted on 10/19/2013 6:19:22 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Olog-hai

“Project GIGO”.


28 posted on 10/19/2013 6:59:47 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: Amagi
Now that’s $18M down the black hole on a fool’s errand.

It's not that predicting climate change is impossible.

It's just that, when you base your models on a wrong theory ("CO2 is the dominant factor affecting temperatures"), they will inevitably give wrong answers.

29 posted on 10/19/2013 7:06:29 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
What you write is very true, and much government funding has already been granted premised on proving that "CO2 is the dominant factor affecting temperatures".

I suggest that we will get scant little return in predicting "climate change" for this most recent $18M "investment".
This will not even scratch the surface of knowledge about the multitude of factors and their permutations needed to predict climate change.
Somebody be scamming.

30 posted on 10/19/2013 7:16:38 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: I want the USA back
Climate reality is too complex to be modeled.

Climate is chaos and does not yield to linear thinking.

Regards,
GtG

31 posted on 10/19/2013 2:29:30 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Everything except the sun.


32 posted on 10/19/2013 4:43:57 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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