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Riding in the new 2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28, a factory-bred street racer
motoramic ^ | October 16, 2013 11:51 | Alex Lloyd

Posted on 10/21/2013 7:26:31 AM PDT by central_va

After its shock reveal at the New York auto show, the 2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28 stands as one of the most anticipated machines of the year. GM promised new heights of performance, and an unrelenting dedication to make the car worthy of its legendary name, and challenge some of the world's best. We got the chance to take a Z/28 deep dive at GM's Milford Proving Grounds, and ride shotgun in one of its development mules on the venue's test track. Is it everything that was promised?

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And all this for a mere 20 times the MSRP, of the original Z28. While the original Z28 was made so that a regular working guy could have an awesome fast car for driving to work, cruising on summer nights, and taking to the track on weekends, this new one is made for the upper income/enlarged prostate/country club/AARP member type to stash in his garage, wax monthly, show off to his golf buddies, and flip at Barrett-Jackson in a couple of years for a killing.

1 posted on 10/21/2013 7:26:31 AM PDT by central_va
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To: central_va

I’ll take the one on the right please.


2 posted on 10/21/2013 7:28:32 AM PDT by angcat
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To: angcat

I’d be happy with either.


3 posted on 10/21/2013 7:33:51 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Anoreth

A car.


4 posted on 10/21/2013 7:34:38 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: central_va

Meh, today’s average working guy can afford something fast, it just won’t appreciate and it requires occasional parts / work.


5 posted on 10/21/2013 7:36:07 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: central_va
18436572 - Firing order of GM V8 engines. I know that because I was a GM guy for my entire previous life. Loved Chevy.

Now, I couldn't care if they sold this Z for $1, I'll never touch a another GM vehicle as long as I live.

If we lived in a just world, they'd be out of business and the CEO would be found hanging in a janitor's closet.

6 posted on 10/21/2013 7:37:20 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: angcat

The one on the right cost about 4,000 new.
$4,000 of 1969 dollars would be worth: $25,477.71 in 2013. So the new one is bit pricey.


7 posted on 10/21/2013 7:37:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

government motors


8 posted on 10/21/2013 7:43:42 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: central_va

Have a buddy with a newer Camaro, 2011. It’s already starting to rust as paint has just chipped away by itself where there are no dents. The interior trim is starting to fall off and he’s had to bring it in several times for a timing problem which seems to crop up all by itself, even after it’s been “fixed.” GM is doing nothing for him on the rust and paint.


9 posted on 10/21/2013 7:44:56 AM PDT by apoxonu
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To: central_va

I do not care if it’s the greatest thing on four wheels since the invention of the wheel. I will not buy a Government Motors car ever again.........................


10 posted on 10/21/2013 7:47:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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To: Nifster
government motors

This. No thanks.

11 posted on 10/21/2013 7:47:39 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: apoxonu

Next time you see him and talk with him about his car problems just say, “Haha, sucka!”.


12 posted on 10/21/2013 7:49:00 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: central_va
Still a Chevy POS....Buy Mopar and get a REAL car....
13 posted on 10/21/2013 7:50:19 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: central_va

Government Motors can go screw themselves. Even when I rent cars now I will choose the company that can promise I will not end up with a Government Motors vehicle.


14 posted on 10/21/2013 7:53:11 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: apoxonu

I bought a v6 2013 mustang with the performance pkg for 23K, best bang for the buck - ever. I special order the 3:31 rear end. The car is well built, good looking fast and rear wheel drive.


15 posted on 10/21/2013 7:53:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: apoxonu

Did I mention my ‘13 v6 Mustang gets 30 MPG highway.


16 posted on 10/21/2013 7:54:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AAABEST

Exactly, me too, I loved those small block Chevys. No more. I am driving a Ford today.


17 posted on 10/21/2013 7:56:13 AM PDT by 1stIowa ( GMC)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Still a Chevy POS....Buy Mopar and get a REAL car....

I was a Mopar man. My favorite was a '66 Dodge Dart with GREAT torque out of a little 225 with a 1 barrel Holley.

The new Fiat/dART is not even a good fake. It is everything that the Dart wasn't, and nothing that it was. Where is the modern Dart or Newport? A no frills car that just runs and has lots of room for the family in its class?

Besides my various Darts, I also had a Diplomat, a Chrysler 5th Avenue, and a 1965 Chrysler 300 2 door hardtop coupe.(383, 4 barrel, 330 hp ... the BASE model)
18 posted on 10/21/2013 7:56:54 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: central_va
the original Z28 was made so that a regular working guy could have an awesome fast car for driving to work, cruising on summer nights, and taking to the track on weekends,

And how would a 'regular working guy' have been able to get his street machine on the track on a weekend?

19 posted on 10/21/2013 8:00:42 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: angcat

The one on the right can’t do the Nürburgring in 7:34

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/15/chevy-camaro-z28-nurburgring-video/


20 posted on 10/21/2013 8:01:34 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("If guns cause crime, there must be something wrong with mine." -Ted Nugent)
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To: cicero2k

Even the cheaper cars are faster and better made than they used to be.


21 posted on 10/21/2013 8:02:25 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Drag strips were basically free... I used to go to 75-80 drag strip in MD all the time.


22 posted on 10/21/2013 8:02:32 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
The '66 Dart was the '92 Camry of its day. They both were made too well. They wouldn't break.

While the Dart was/is more of a tank, the '92 Camry is still on the road in vast numbers today. Lotsa Darts out there too.

23 posted on 10/21/2013 8:05:02 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: 1stIowa
Exactly, me too, I loved those small block Chevys. No more. I am driving a Ford today.

Me too, and I don't regret it for a moment. Taken outside my mom's house:


24 posted on 10/21/2013 8:05:23 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: central_va

I took it more as a comment on getting onto a 1/4 or 1/2 mile oval. Those were being used all weekend by the guys running modifieds or stocks.


25 posted on 10/21/2013 8:07:03 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: central_va; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

What on Earth is an ad for an Obamamobile doing on FreeRepublic?

The government gift of GM to the very union thugs that destroyed that once great company has destroyed the life savings of every american due to wiping out the constitutional protections of bonds (contracts).

Totally inappropriate here.


26 posted on 10/21/2013 8:07:58 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

This is an add for the Ford Mustang. read the comments...


27 posted on 10/21/2013 8:09:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AAABEST

>> “If we lived in a just world, they’d be out of business and the CEO would be found hanging in a janitor’s closet” <<

.
BRAVO!


28 posted on 10/21/2013 8:09:49 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Well, I am still a Mopar man, and Fiat has done some very good things with the lineup from ma mopar....much better steward of Chrysler then Daimler, who just about robbed Chrysler blind and dumped them in the gutter when done.

As far as ANYTHING from GM....I'd rather eat worms then drive a Chevy.....nothing but Mopar in my driveway.

29 posted on 10/21/2013 8:11:23 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: AAABEST

Chevy lost me when the paint pealed off my 1986 Pickup after only a couple of years.

They basically said “Too Bad, Oh so sad.”

That was the last Chevy that sat in my driveway.


30 posted on 10/21/2013 8:12:02 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Mopar is no better than GM.

They got sold to the very globalist/socialist Fiat Co.


31 posted on 10/21/2013 8:12:40 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

The one on the left rewards criminals handsomely.


32 posted on 10/21/2013 8:16:04 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: central_va
When I young I bought myself a 1986 Fire Engine Red Firebird. I loved that car. I had rugs over my carpet and no one could get in without being inspected for dirt. I should have kept that car I would love to have it today.
33 posted on 10/21/2013 8:19:22 AM PDT by angcat
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To: editor-surveyor

“The one on the left rewards criminals handsomely.”

The car itself is innocent, and awesome. :)


34 posted on 10/21/2013 8:22:59 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("If guns cause crime, there must be something wrong with mine." -Ted Nugent)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
As far as ANYTHING from GM....I'd rather eat worms then drive a Chevy.....nothing but Mopar in my driveway.

My wife's '94 Caprice wagon with the 350 is holding up VERY nicely at 205,000 miles. The wind in our area made her unfortable in minivans. Our Plymouth Voyager was particularly AWFUL (2.6 Mitsubishi engine, AWFUL front end).The Ford Aerostar was amazingly functional, but for a REAL station wagon, the Caprice/Roadmaster was the last one standing.
35 posted on 10/21/2013 8:25:54 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: AAABEST

Yep. I’d rather buy a Toyota, built in Kentucky by non-union workers.


36 posted on 10/21/2013 8:30:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
1/4mile or SCCA on road tracks, not really meant to go roundy-round
37 posted on 10/21/2013 8:30:55 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: editor-surveyor; Nifster; Red Badger; All
What on Earth is an ad for an Obamamobile doing on FreeRepublic?
The government gift of GM to the very union thugs that destroyed that once great company has destroyed the life savings of every american due to wiping out the constitutional protections of bonds (contracts).
Totally inappropriate here.

Agree 100%. Gov't Motors...no thanks. They can roll out all of their "good times/retro" designs, but they completely screwed the pooch with their 0'Bailout association.

38 posted on 10/21/2013 8:31:55 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

You mean your other right? lol


39 posted on 10/21/2013 8:32:52 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Airborne at 150mph +! Wow!


40 posted on 10/21/2013 8:35:07 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: angcat

I still have a 1983 Chevy shortbed truck. 305 V8. Runs strong and has paid for itself numerous times using it to haul building materials, etc.
Having said that, it cost about a quarter what a new one would cost.
And I won’t buy another government motors product.


41 posted on 10/21/2013 8:36:25 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

The Magnum was a good choice for a wagon...too bad it was only produced for 3 short years.


42 posted on 10/21/2013 8:45:43 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Jonty30

5K in 1969 is 32K today.

But a car today is driven, I don’t know; 15 years before it is scrapped. How many Pintos, Vegas, Granadas and Mavericks were still on the road 15 years later? This has to be factored in.

I have not replaced a car in 7 years. My fleet is 8, 13, 13 years old and I have no urge to replace any of it.


43 posted on 10/21/2013 9:13:13 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: central_va

“The one on the right cost about 4,000 new.
$4,000 of 1969 dollars would be worth: $25,477.71 in 2013. So the new one is bit pricey.”

Due to the CAFE and the EPA, you are NEVER going to see a cheap musclecar ever again. When you pay 55,000 dollars(!!!!!!) for one of these, you are probably paying about 5K to pay for someone else’s Volt and about $3,000 for someone else’s Spark.


44 posted on 10/21/2013 9:16:13 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: rightwingextremist1776
The Magnum was a good choice for a wagon...too bad it was only produced for 3 short years.

Not a full-sized wagon. Only seated six, (2+2+2)
45 posted on 10/21/2013 9:16:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
When you pay 55,000 dollars(!!!!!!) for one of these, you are probably paying about 5K to pay for someone else’s Volt

Not to mention a few grand for the 14.5 airbags. My '66 Dart had five fuses (hazard flashers optional). The new cars have 30 miles of wiring in them.
46 posted on 10/21/2013 9:19:12 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: central_va

Nice ride, but I wouldn’t buy one, or any vehicle built after the 1995 model year. If you worked in the auto industry in engineering or development, you would know what that date represents. As for all of the domestic bashers out there, your toyota, honda, chevy, ford, and dodge use parts that come from the same chinese factories. All you are buying is a name, nothing more. Built in the US does not exist, only “assembled” in the US, with parts from the third world.


47 posted on 10/21/2013 9:20:58 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: cicero2k

If kept in a garage and never wrecked, today’s car bodies could last a real long time. The engines will last 200K easily. Everything else will have to be replaced though. An automatic transmission is a death sentence for most cars. When they go it is 3-4K to fix. Not worth it.


48 posted on 10/21/2013 9:23:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I have a 67 Camaro convertible I’m restoring and upgrading to the hilt. While you can buy a 500hp plus new Camaro, they weigh between 3800 and 4100 pounds versus 3200 for my convertible. My 350 HP homebuilt is quite fast enough thank you.

Plus, mine is infinitely repairable! and upgradeable! and will be on the road long after I’m dead and buried. And long after most 2014 Camaros are in the boneyard.


49 posted on 10/21/2013 9:27:25 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DaxtonBrown

The problem with 60’s v-8’s is they get 10 mpg (if you are lucky)


50 posted on 10/21/2013 9:30:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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