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Chris Matthews: Did You Drink Three Fifths?
American Thinker ^ | 10/21/2013 | Ken Blackwell

Posted on 10/21/2013 7:56:09 AM PDT by rktman

MSNBC's erratic Hardball host, Chris Matthews, has again gone off the deep end with his nonsense talk about the Constitution's three-fifths clause. He's claiming that conservatives believe black people are, or once were, only three-fifths of a person.

Why does a group of people that always loses elections or tends to do lately, why do they call themselves American people because - do they still count blacks as three-fifths? Three-fifths of a vote?

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: didiot; dnctalkingpoints; jimcrowwasdemocrat; liberalbigot; lyingliar; pravdamedia; revisionisthistory; sissymatthews; thriller
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LOL! The ever affable and brilliant christine matthews shows his stupidity once again. Don't these asshats know anything? Probably they do but still would rather "inform" the low/no info voters of "made up" truth. And they go for the bait as usual.
1 posted on 10/21/2013 7:56:09 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman
I believe Christine Matthews is three-fifths human.

Does that make me a racist?

2 posted on 10/21/2013 7:57:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: rktman

So what? The 3/5 was settled law an liberals love settled law.


3 posted on 10/21/2013 7:58:31 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: rktman

Unbelievable. Liberals step in that hole constantly, completely misinterpreting the 3/5ths Compromise.


4 posted on 10/21/2013 7:59:22 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

WOW! You’re sure giving him a lot of credit.


5 posted on 10/21/2013 7:59:50 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: rktman

How do you count 3/5ths of a vote?

Seems to me like the actual ratio of votes counted is more like 4:1


6 posted on 10/21/2013 8:00:11 AM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: rktman

I believe Prissy Matthews consumes three fifths before spewing forth his lunacy on MSLSD.


7 posted on 10/21/2013 8:00:22 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Common Sense 101

Is it alcoholism or dementia?


8 posted on 10/21/2013 8:01:45 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Safrguns

Looks like they’ve been making up for it in the past few elections...

And, lefties - the 3/5ths actually LOWERED THE VOTING POWER OF THE SLAVE STATES.

Get it?

Counting non-voting slaves as “population” would have increased the number of House members...
Anyone home McFly?


9 posted on 10/21/2013 8:02:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rlmorel

Ain’t no accident. They’ve convinced the “minority” that the tea party doesn’t consider “minorities” to be complete and thus inferior. Ergo; free stuff since being less than whole, they would be incapable of attaining things on their own.


10 posted on 10/21/2013 8:02:18 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: rktman

Dafuq is he ranting about? Dude is seriously insane. I mean, he should not be allowed to walk around a town unrestrained.


11 posted on 10/21/2013 8:02:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: rktman

It was the democrate slaveholders that considered the black slaves less than human. Not the Republicans.


12 posted on 10/21/2013 8:02:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Thus the HUGE guilt they carry and need to “make it right”.


13 posted on 10/21/2013 8:06:14 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: Lazamataz

Would a straight jacket be better?
>snort!<


14 posted on 10/21/2013 8:06:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Yes.


15 posted on 10/21/2013 8:06:43 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: rktman

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-the-three-fifths-compromise.htm#slideshow


16 posted on 10/21/2013 8:09:48 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Revolting cat!

Chris Matthews is only 3/5ths of a man. The remainder is flaming homo.


17 posted on 10/21/2013 8:10:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: rktman

It was the North - - ie., the people who opposed slavery - - who demanded the “3/5” of a vote for slaves. The South would have loved giving slaves a full vote. Heck, 2 votes! This ignoramus Chris Matthews is the perfect face of MSNBC. He’s a real spitfire (snort!).


18 posted on 10/21/2013 8:10:27 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rktman

I’m fed up with this crap. I’m fed up with people who assign people to a group, and assign characteristics to every member of the group.


19 posted on 10/21/2013 8:10:50 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Slight correction - it wasn’t for “voting”, because the slaves couldn’t vote regardless of how they were counted.
It was for population based representation in the House of Representatives.


20 posted on 10/21/2013 8:12:58 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

I wonder if he realizes that Southern slaveowners wanted to count them as full people....while Northerners, both abolitionists and nonabolitionists, wanted to them to be zeros?


21 posted on 10/21/2013 8:14:28 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Three-fifths human; five-fifths nuts.


22 posted on 10/21/2013 8:14:36 AM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: MrB

Thank you. Yes, as soon as I posted I realized I had screwed up. The “3/5 of a person” was strictly for census.
But it was the North that reduced the personhood of a slave to 3/5, not the South.

FRegards,
LH


23 posted on 10/21/2013 8:17:20 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Jack Hydrazine

There is still the spittle factor to consider...


24 posted on 10/21/2013 8:17:39 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Lancey Howard

I believe the ever loved by leftists North
wanted “black people” to not be counted as people at all.


25 posted on 10/21/2013 8:20:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Indeed! Hissy Matthews is constantly spewing the spittlegeist, in service to his tingehood.


26 posted on 10/21/2013 8:21:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Duct tape works wonders but I’d rather let him talk to constantly remind us all of just how loony the Left is!


27 posted on 10/21/2013 8:21:38 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: rktman

28 posted on 10/21/2013 8:22:10 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: rktman

If the slave states had gotten their way, the House would have been profoundly and irrevocably pro-slavery. Unrepresented slaves would have vastly added to the number of slave state congressmen.

The 3/5 compromise prevented slavery from ever being totally accepted as federal established law.

It wasn’t pretty, but it set the stage for emancipation.


29 posted on 10/21/2013 8:22:21 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Lancey Howard

Actually slaves didn’t get any vote at all. The place where the slave was located got more representatives for the slaves. Reality was most slaves were on larger plantations, within a single precinct, that gave the slave owner significant control over a representative.

Before 1835, North Carolina gave Freed slaves the vote. After 1835 (when they changed their state constitution) they denied black freedmen the vote.

Jim Crow was started by the Democrats in part to remove the vote from freedmen after the insurrection.


30 posted on 10/21/2013 8:22:22 AM PDT by donmeaker (q)
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To: JoeDetweiler
I wonder if he realizes that Southern slaveowners wanted to count them as full people....while Northerners, both abolitionists and nonabolitionists, wanted to them to be zeros?

That is absolute nonsense - complete leftist reasoning in service of Confederate special pleading.

Southern slaveowners specifically refused to recognizes slaves as people, even though they were.

Northerners refused to recognize them as qualified voters, because Northerners knew that the slaveowners would never let them vote.

The three-fifths ratio was a compromise between Northern reality and Southern fiction.

31 posted on 10/21/2013 8:23:25 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: rktman

If Chris would ever take a trip in a Wayback Machine, next time he starts tippling ‘Rebel Yell’, he would see that his fellow Democrats wanted their personal property to be counted as an entire person.
So they could vote their proxy as well as get more votes in Congress.
Kind of, well no—exactly what they do today. Slave owners.


32 posted on 10/21/2013 8:23:47 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: rktman

I think it’s time we all acknowleged that Chris Matthews is an entertainer and not a journalist, and doesn’t believe even half of what he spews to his “amen corner” of an audience.

The best evidence of this is that Matthews is ... still alive. Because anyone who believed what he claims to believe, with the intensity he claims to believe it (all) would have long ago worked themselves into a fatal stroke or heart attack ...


33 posted on 10/21/2013 8:24:49 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: MHGinTN

LOL!!!


34 posted on 10/21/2013 8:26:38 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Good point.


35 posted on 10/21/2013 8:26:56 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: MrB

The initial proposition was to have the representatives allocated to the states in proportion to the voters.

Slave states denied the vote to slaves, but wanted the representatives to be in proportion to the total number of persons. The slave power wanted represenation for the slaves to whom they denied the vote.

The compromise was to permit 3/5ths of the slave population to count toward representation. If the slave states wanted more representation than that, they could have freed their slaves.


36 posted on 10/21/2013 8:27:11 AM PDT by donmeaker (q)
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To: rktman
Yo Sissy, we were also White racists against White HillaryCare.

I know, it's confusing...

37 posted on 10/21/2013 8:28:03 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: rktman

All you need to know about Chris Matthews...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kccPhiblpkM

Isn’t it interesting that a racist, misogynist, mouth-breathing Conservative, Fox News anchor, can just blow-the-doors off a Limp-Wristed-Thrill-Up-My-Leg, Flaming Liberal News Canker...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opLiKrw79LI


38 posted on 10/21/2013 8:29:00 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: Common Sense 101
It is the alcoholism and the dementia?
39 posted on 10/21/2013 8:30:59 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Lancey Howard

We should not miss the point that slaves were not allowed to vote but the south wanted them counted to increase representation and in essence, vote as their proxies. The opposing view was since they can’t vote, they can’t be counted.

The whole idea of “personhood” is nonsensical when the south considered them non-persons and the north said basically, if that is your view, non-persons can’t be represented.

It was a classic compromise where neither side got all of what it wanted, but yielded since the formation and survival of a nation was at stake.


40 posted on 10/21/2013 8:32:45 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: wideawake

Actual voting by slaves had nothing to do with it, though it should have.

It was completely for the purposes of representation in Congress.

If each slave counted as a full person that would give more representation, and thus larger clout when voting on slavery-related issues for the slave-holding states.

If slaves counted as zero in the census, there would have no increase in Congress for slave-holding states, and less relative clout.


41 posted on 10/21/2013 8:39:23 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rktman

The lies and accusations are just getting bigger and bigger and even the dumbest people are beginning to notice.


42 posted on 10/21/2013 8:41:30 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: rktman

Dear Chris, take 30 seconds to check out this thing called google.


43 posted on 10/21/2013 8:47:29 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: MrB

The second part of the 3/5ths compromise was beneficial to the South. Taxation was based on state population. There was, as all Freepers know, no direct taxation on individuals. The tax was owed by the states and based on their population. The South wanted slaves counted 100% for representation and not counted at all for taxation. 3/5ths for each purpose was the eventual compromise. Also, at the time of the Convention the future of slavery was in doubt. Tobacco fields were in decline and cotton because of its troublesome seeds was not worth the effort, especially since it had to be exported to England to make any real money for the planter. Only South Carolina’s and coastal Georgia’s rice production held the promise of continued return. So slavery was in fact petering out. It was the synchronicity of two independent events, Whitney’s Gin and Slater’s water powered mill that saved slavery and tied Northern prosperity to the existence of Southern slavery.


44 posted on 10/21/2013 8:54:14 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: rktman

The three 5ths of cheap scotch Chrissy drank last night are still talking although his brainstem is down.


45 posted on 10/21/2013 9:04:03 AM PDT by februus
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To: tanknetter

Chris is lost on purpose, for a buck. A sad clown now. Even he who is wistful has to see the collapse of a once great country, built on goodness as the Constitution attests, and now heading into ruin.

How he sleeps without a pacifier, I am sure I don’t know.


46 posted on 10/21/2013 9:04:16 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: MrB

The problem is that they lack the intelligence to understand the truth. The end result of us waisting our best and brightest on the distant battlefields of the world.


47 posted on 10/21/2013 9:08:18 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776

I think it’s more that admitting that we’re right and they were wrong is too much for their egos to accept.


48 posted on 10/21/2013 9:09:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Lancey Howard
Lancey Howard said: "But it was the North that reduced the personhood of a slave to 3/5, not the South."

I would put it this way:

It was the North that reduced the representation of slave states and the South which reduced the personhood of slaves by owning them instead of setting them free as they had full power to do without loss of life. When the time came for the North to set slaves free it cost half a million lives.

49 posted on 10/21/2013 9:11:36 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: rktman

Extremist Matthews should seek counseling...he’s going right over the edge.


50 posted on 10/21/2013 9:13:17 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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