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English Hieroglyphics are fun and easy to read
Rantrave.com ^ | September 22, 2013 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 10/22/2013 12:47:19 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice

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To: USMCPOP

The simplest written language I have seen is Hangul (Korean) you can learn to pronounce just about anything in a couple of hours. Of course, you won’t have a clue what those words mean. lol


21 posted on 10/22/2013 2:01:32 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Servant

I pray, sir, can you read?

ROMEO

Ay, mine own fortune in my misery.

Servant

Perhaps you have learned it without book: but, I
pray, can you read any thing you see?

ROMEO

Ay, if I know the letters and the language.

Servant

Ye say honestly: rest you merry!

ROMEO

Stay, fellow; I can read.

From “Romeo and Juliet”, William Shakespeare.


22 posted on 10/22/2013 2:04:30 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Learning to read is terribly important and the average person I talk to doesn’t seem to realize this.

The low-information voters don’t read much, if at all. They put the U.S. in our current fix.

Data-entry people who work in hospitals make deadly mistakes every day because they can’t read or spell up to the requirements of the job.

Congress people don’t read their bills. The last congressman who read all the bills he signed was H.R.Gross who retired in the 70’s.

White House pretenders aren’t really smart. They know very little about economics, finances or even recent history. A little more reading in Hayek or Arthur Laffer would benefit our country, don’t you think?


23 posted on 10/22/2013 2:16:48 PM PDT by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: D Rider

Don’t you know the eco-nuts back in the 1920s were freaking out over the possibility that the north and south poles were going to melt away?


24 posted on 10/22/2013 2:18:48 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: GeronL

I don’t know about Korean, but Spanish is entirely phonetic. Learn the sounds of 29 letters and you can read/sound out any word.

I often wonder if illiteracy is unknown in Spanish-speaking cultures.


25 posted on 10/22/2013 2:43:39 PM PDT by Boojum
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To: muir_redwoods
that was (briefly) thought to be superior the(to) phonics.

Briefly??? Reading is still taught that way while they complain about having to give lip service to phonics. The rulers want the population to be barely literate, to be able to read their instructions but not to be able to read history and such useless matter.

26 posted on 10/22/2013 2:48:15 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Liberty Wins

“Burned” and “buried” have the same shape. How can people be expected to tell them apart?


27 posted on 10/22/2013 2:50:45 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: mjp
It is the anti-conceptual mentality embracing the pre-conceptual child and training him to remain in that state for life.

Children who are not taught History and cannot read well enough to pursue it easily on their own never learn what has worked in society and nations and what doesn't work. Their minds are not cramped by reality and can be taught to believe that impossible utopias can be instituted by politicians and wise leaders.

28 posted on 10/22/2013 2:55:57 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Valpal1

My cousin is somewhat dyslexic. He reads with difficulty, having to sort of push the words on the page together with his eyes and tediously build them up into paragraphs and such. He did not learn to read at all until he was past 30. The look-say and whole word crap that was all the rage when he was in grammar school in the 50s and 60s (yes, 50s) made reading impossible for him then. Schools in the more progressive areas were also not really grading, some just giving everyone As and Cs, the Cs being for those who learned not much of anything so Cuz got graduated. Fortunately he had a flair for things electrical and did very well with radios and later, computers.


29 posted on 10/22/2013 3:05:35 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

The rationalization for the look-say method is that adults do not sound out words. They know the words they read on sight or it would take them entirely too long to read anything. Also phonics is akin to rote memory and adults don’t do rote memory very well so we shouldn’t be forcing the less developed minds of children to do that, in reading or in anything else. Facts are a waste of space.


30 posted on 10/22/2013 3:12:55 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

Not in the northeast. At least in CT and MA, see/say had a stake driven through its heart at least 30 years ago.


31 posted on 10/22/2013 3:17:54 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
I learned during the Zimmerman trial that this is what "English hieroglyphics" looks like.

-PJ

32 posted on 10/22/2013 3:18:39 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: arthurus

Phonics teachers call that Dysteachia instead of Dyslexic. It is a problem that many suffer from and this child abuse is occurring every day still in most schools across America.


33 posted on 10/22/2013 5:46:17 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1

“The complete rule pretty much clears up most of the confusion.”

That would require a SEISMIC shift in thinking. ;)


34 posted on 10/22/2013 5:51:02 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: 21twelve

Greek import, not English. That’s why you teach the history of the English language when you teach phonics, so kids know where words come from or how the pronunciation may have changed over time while the spelling maintains the history.


35 posted on 10/22/2013 6:26:01 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: x; everyone

RE: “but don’t most schools of necessity devote time to phonics as well?” Good question. Point is, they keep as much non-phonics as they can get away with.


I’m on a literacy forum where a young, passionate, and disgusted teacher just left this harrowing message-—
“I also know that with the departure of Bush (and I wasn’t a fan, personally), the Liberal states who have made pedagogy political to the point of lunacy literally reacted as if they had been freed to return to whole language. They don’t even pretend to include phonics here. ....I have now subbed in three of this districts’ schools in first grade and one Kindergarten. I have not seen any phonics instruction beyond beginning sounds. The class reading poster poems are back, the listening centers in Kindergarten with 2nd grade level books, the centers where you guess-read and write and the writing workshops where children draw a story picture and then write about it when they haven’t been taught anything except alphabet names (poorly) and 7 ‘sight’ words like ‘on’ ‘an’, ‘in’ ‘went’, ‘I’ ‘a’ and ‘the’.... they are encouraged to write words that they can’t sound out in any way at all....the idea is it is a success even if they just copy the alphabet...they will get it in time. They are calling this Balanced Literacy...but it is whole language straight out. Balance would indicate some phonics, but there is none, in the two grades where it is absolutely critical. Intervention is guided reading from non-decodable text. Pure, flat out whole language....”


Here’s a second anecdote to give you a sense of how bad things can be. A man called me from West Virginia last week to get help with his fifth-grade granddaughter, who has never been taught with anything but sight-words and is now functionally illiterate. In fact the man said he lived in a house with five generations of functionally illiterate people. To sum this up, this is what the Democrats in West Virginia are doing to the poor black citizens of that state. It’s really Goddamn disgusting.


36 posted on 10/22/2013 7:15:53 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Read this to your toddler. My son is now 14 and an excellent reader.

37 posted on 10/22/2013 7:29:34 PM PDT by CtBigPat (Free Republic - The grown-ups table of the internet.)
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To: muir_redwoods
My grandson in Boston was pulled out of public school directly because of the modern iteration of look-say. He is in a pretty good Catholic school now. Actually reading is not a problem for him. My daughter taught him to read, or rather, helped him teach himself to read, when he was 3 and 4 but the fact that the public primary school was not teaching reading caused my son-in-law to investigate further and discovered that not much of anything recognizable as academic subjects was being taught. Not being child abusers, they pulled the boy out.
Just putting one's child in a parochial school is not enough, though. One has to be diligent even there. Many parochial schools are not much different from public schools, and while they do tend to actually teach kids to read they may also be teaching much of the social engineering crap that public schools exist to impart.
38 posted on 10/22/2013 8:54:45 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

My wife has been a principal in Massachusetts elementary schools for over twenty years. See/say has not been used in MA for at least thirty years.


39 posted on 10/23/2013 3:54:56 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

Saugus.


40 posted on 10/23/2013 4:11:25 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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