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Bullying Football Team: Did the Coach Go Overboard in 91-0 Win?
webpronews.com ^ | 10/23/2013 | Erika Watts

Posted on 10/23/2013 7:31:10 AM PDT by massmike

A high school football coach in Texas was slapped with a formal bullying complaint after his team won 91-0 on Friday.

Aledo High School, the football team that put up a score you’d expect to see in a basketball game, has scored 77 points or more in their last four games. This is the first complaint that has been filed against head coach Tim Buchanan for his team’s blowout victories.

The dad of a player on the team that was blown out, Western Hills High School, claims Buchanan encouraged his players to bully their opponents by running up the score.

Buchanan is adamant that no bullying occurred in his team’s win. Not only did he pull his starters in the first quarter, his third string players were on the field when the clock ran out. After the first half was over, the officials began running a clock that didn’t stop unless a timeout or score occurred and in the fourth quarter, the officials used a continuous running clock, so the score could have reached triple digits.

Neither Buchanan or his team were happy over the victory. “We were just sitting there,” Buchanan said. “You’d have thought we got beat. I looked around and asked, ‘Is there anyone here that feels good?’” Buchanan says that while such victories aren’t anything he takes pleasure in, he can’t tell his kids to quit, either.

“I’m not gonna tell a kid that comes out here and practices six to seven hours a week trying to get ready for football games, ‘Hey, you can’t score a touchdown if you get in, you’re gonna have to take a knee,’ Buchanan said. “That may be the only touchdown that kid gets to score in his high school career.”

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1 posted on 10/23/2013 7:31:10 AM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

What a joke.


2 posted on 10/23/2013 7:32:19 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: massmike
Typical world in 2013...

The more dominant team beat up on the challenged team...and it's the more powerful's team fault for being too good...

If you can't play the game, then don't take the field...

3 posted on 10/23/2013 7:34:50 AM PDT by Fedupwithit (Your opinion: It's all yours....don't expect me to listen to it, or even acknowledge it..)
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To: my small voice

I suppose he should have taken out his third string players and sent the cheerleaders out to play.....


4 posted on 10/23/2013 7:34:59 AM PDT by massmike (Why doesn't Obama just declare Syria a "chemical weapons-free zone"?)
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To: massmike

I don’t know if Texas has class football, but it seems to me that Aledo HS needs to play up a class or two.

As long as they aren’t shooting steroids, and paying players with cash, cars and girls, then what’s the problem? And if they are, then the boys are ready for playing in the SEC.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 7:35:21 AM PDT by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: massmike
You pretty much have to run up and down the field completely unimpeded for an hour to score 91 points. Maybe the winning team doesn't have a second and third string to put in.

Either way it reflects pretty poorly on the other coach - seems like his team just rolled over.

6 posted on 10/23/2013 7:35:34 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Fedupwithit
...but doesn't everyone still get a trophy or award these days...just for showing up?


7 posted on 10/23/2013 7:37:24 AM PDT by massmike (Why doesn't Obama just declare Syria a "chemical weapons-free zone"?)
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To: skeeter

Heard a story about this on the radio this morning. The coach took out his starters halfway through the first quarter. And he asked the refs to keep the clock running no matter what. He could have scored a lot more.


8 posted on 10/23/2013 7:37:51 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: massmike

Winning is losing. Losing is winning.


9 posted on 10/23/2013 7:38:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: massmike

A lawsuit for this...what a wussified society we have become. Have been on BOTH sides of butt whipping but I didn’t complain about it!


10 posted on 10/23/2013 7:38:16 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: massmike

when i was in boy scouts, my patrol won every competition the troop had, and won a blue ribbon in the regional camporee. the leaders broke us up. our troop would win no more regional blue ribbons, and we all were quite miffed. and the crybabies still cried.


11 posted on 10/23/2013 7:42:27 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: massmike

>>>The dad of a player on the team that was blown out, Western Hills High School, claims Buchanan encouraged his players to bully their opponents by running up the score. <<<

The fact that is was a “dad” making this ridiculous “bullying” complaint, is a hundred times worse than if it were a mom (still stupid, but more understandable given maternal instincts and the gender gap).

As I see it, the poor football player has “two moms” and no real dad. Having such a simpering wuss for a “father” must be a million times more humiliating than losing 91-0.


12 posted on 10/23/2013 7:42:34 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: thefactor
Heard a story about this on the radio this morning. The coach took out his starters halfway through the first quarter. And he asked the refs to keep the clock running no matter what. He could have scored a lot more.

If that's the case...then there is nothing to criticize here. Every blow out is different, and I know a lot of people like to jump in 100% on one side or the other....which rarely reflects reality. But if his subs were in the game for the most part, this result is what it is. There's no need to humiliate a team you are superior too, but it's not proper to ask subs not to play hard either.

13 posted on 10/23/2013 7:42:41 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: massmike

No. If you don’t want a team to beat you 91-0, then don’t suck.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 7:43:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: massmike

Apparently. Metrosexual football for all!!!

Honestly, it is probably classy if they’d pull back a bit....but that should be their choice to do it or not. Life is tough and you have to work and fight to make it. Getting your a$$ handed to you is almost always an extremely valuable lesson for later on.


15 posted on 10/23/2013 7:44:12 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: massmike
Maybe the coach could have taken out the third string and put in the cheerleaders in the second half.

Losing in a mismatched football game is motivation to work harder you improve your game. It is an opportunity to learn a lesson that will serve the players on the losing team for the rest of their lives.
Be prepared or be embarrassed.

16 posted on 10/23/2013 7:44:18 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: dfwgator

Haha. I like that.

“If you don’t like your lot in life: Don’t suck”.

Excellent.


17 posted on 10/23/2013 7:45:28 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: my small voice

Words to live by.


18 posted on 10/23/2013 7:46:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: oldbrowser

“It is an opportunity to learn a lesson that will serve the players on the losing team for the rest of their lives.”

Kinda hard to learn when the wussified adults are in the way.


19 posted on 10/23/2013 7:46:55 AM PDT by JimSp
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A good lesson for the losers. To get up and try again.


20 posted on 10/23/2013 7:47:04 AM PDT by rovenstinez (,)
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To: oldbrowser

It’s not about being prepared. The losing team may very well have been prepared, but just not good enough. Given the facts here, where the coach took out his starters in the first quarter, it doesn’t seem to be an issue.

But at the high school level, sports are about learning teamwork, sportsmanship, and fair play. At higher levels of sports, the story is different. But embarrassing your opponent by running up the score teaches the exact opposite of sportsmanship and fair play that should be goal at high school level. It’s not appropriate.


21 posted on 10/23/2013 7:48:07 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: massmike

The losing coach could have forfeited at anytime. But quitting doesn’t build character. In life you learn more from losing than from winning. Mommy needs to shut up and let her boy be a man.


22 posted on 10/23/2013 7:48:57 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: henkster

I don’t know if Texas has class football, but it seems to me that Aledo HS needs to play up a class or two.

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We do. Trouble is - we don’t have enough classes. We only go as high as 5A. Some states go to 6A. Not sure why Texas (check that - I know why Texas doesn’t) It’s the UIL baloney.

Anyhoo - we have two division within 5A - which further adds to the confusion.


23 posted on 10/23/2013 7:49:13 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: dfwgator

Greetings from Houston, DFW.

Figures we are both Texans.....


24 posted on 10/23/2013 7:49:22 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: dfwgator
If you don’t want a team to beat you 91-0, then don’t suck.

The other made the choice to keep sending their players out onto the field after each touchdown against them, for all four quarters. They could have refused to receive the ball following each post-touchdown kick :)

25 posted on 10/23/2013 7:49:47 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: Publius Valerius
But at the high school level, sports are about learning teamwork, sportsmanship, and fair play.

Since when? High school football is becoming big business.

26 posted on 10/23/2013 7:49:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: skeeter
When my wife and I were first married, we got tickets to an international baseball youth championship. Some European country (Spain, if I recall) drew the short straw and got matched up with Taiwan, which has a long baseball tradition compared to almost none in Europe.

The Taiwanese had an 11-0 lead by the 4th inning. After Spain finished their at-bats scoreless in the bottom of the 4th, they called the game. There was a mercy rule in effect which ended the game with a 10 run lead. Since we are talking about kids, it seems like that should be the rule here. I'm not sure what the football equivalent is of a 10 run lead, but maybe 42 points ahead would be a good start.

I'm not faulting the winning coach. He did the right thing by putting in his third string and keeping the clock running, but there was a serious mismatch in the teams from the get-go.

27 posted on 10/23/2013 7:50:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: oldbrowser
Maybe the coach could have taken out the third string and put in the cheerleaders in the second half.

The 1st string was taken out at the end of the 1st quarter. 17 different players handled the ball for Aledo.

Everything I've read and heard tells me that the winning coach did everything possible to minimize the scoring.

28 posted on 10/23/2013 7:50:40 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The radio host made a great point. Nobody sits on a therapists couch 30 years from now saying, "I lost a football game in high school and I never got over it."

Nobody kills themsleves over missing a jump shot. It doesn't happen. Bullying is real, and it's awful. But this ain't it.

29 posted on 10/23/2013 7:51:31 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: rovenstinez
A good lesson for the losers. To get up and try again.

That's old school. Now you go whine to the government when you don't get your way.

30 posted on 10/23/2013 7:51:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: skeeter

Oklahoma State beat Savannah State 84-0 last season.


31 posted on 10/23/2013 7:51:37 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: my small voice
"Honestly, it is probably classy if they’d pull back a bit.."

Agreed - the bench guys should have been out there long ago - and I have no idea if they were or not. And they bench should have been playing not as any courtesy to the other team, but rather that if you don't give those bench dudes some type of experience playing together in a game like that, then when they hell do they get some playing time? And once the second or third string is in - well it's not their job to lay down. They have an obligation to prove themselves.

32 posted on 10/23/2013 7:51:41 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: dfwgator

You’re right about that, but I don’t think it’s appropriate.


33 posted on 10/23/2013 7:53:12 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: thefactor
. Nobody sits on a therapists couch 30 years from now saying, "I lost a football game in high school and I never got over it."

You obviously never saw the movie, "The Best of Times."

34 posted on 10/23/2013 7:53:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator; massmike

35 posted on 10/23/2013 7:53:54 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: thefactor

True that...not bullying under ANY circumstances....even if it were classless running up the score....which it does not appear to be....it’s not bullying.

To say this cheapens the meaning of the term....


36 posted on 10/23/2013 7:54:46 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: massmike

If you’re one point behind when the game ends, “what difference does it make!”


37 posted on 10/23/2013 7:54:56 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hold on to your burrito! Here comes amnesty!)
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To: Publius Valerius
Who says the opponents were embarrassed? And if they were - then would you argue that embarrassment should be eleminated from ALL aspects of the high school curriculum? And if a child is blown out on a math test and gets a zero, we should just give him a D- instead to save from embarrassment? As you know - liberals love that approach even though it doesn't work.
38 posted on 10/23/2013 7:55:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: massmike

Just for the record, the coach for Aledo pulled his starters after only 21 plays! Also, Aledo is undefeated and has scored 60+ in several of those games!

He put in his second and third stringers for the remainder of the game! And they STILL put up 91 points.

Now the man who filed the complaint said that he would not have filed this complaint if he had known how soon the Aledo team had went to their 2nd and 3rd stringers.

Uh, ASK! You dumbass!

Instead of asking and trying to see if the other coach actually “ran up the score,” you got butt-hurt over your inability to explain to your kid that sometimes you will lose and sometimes you will lose BIG! Get up and try harder next time - PERIOD!


39 posted on 10/23/2013 7:55:05 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Night Hides Not

Why would I tell the second and third string, who won’t get many opportunities to play, to do anything but go out there and do their best?


40 posted on 10/23/2013 7:55:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Amen to that!


41 posted on 10/23/2013 7:55:40 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: ExTxMarine

I haven’t seen any of Baylor’s opponents whining.


42 posted on 10/23/2013 7:56:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Publius Valerius
You're missing something. "Running up" the score means that it's an overt, intentional act to embarrass the other team. Just because the score was a lot to a little does not mean it was "run up."

"Running up" happens a lot in college football due to school rivalries, the coach's egos, and the way the BCS system works.

This instance is simply one team being a lot better than another. The winning coach actually took measures to slow down the scoring. But he wasn't about to tell some third-string running back to take a knee or a defensive lineman who never plays to NOT sack the other QB.

43 posted on 10/23/2013 7:56:30 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Texas splits 5A. The biggest schools are in one level; the smaller in the other.


44 posted on 10/23/2013 7:56:40 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: demshateGod
Oklahoma State beat Savannah State 84-0 last season.

Which means that Savannah State earned about $5K for each point OSU scored. It was strictly a "money game" for Savannah St.

45 posted on 10/23/2013 7:57:31 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: thefactor

Injuries occur when you don’t go all out.


46 posted on 10/23/2013 7:57:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: massmike

In my senior year in high school we won the Homecoming football game with a score of 104-6. The coach was sending in all his players but the crowd was hyped and toward the end the crowd was screaming to go for 100. The other team was, of course, thoroughly demoralized. For a cap someone slashed the team bus tires. It actually was not something for which we were proud once the Homecoming high wore off but it was what it was. The school was in the same division as ours, from a larger city. It should have been better.

A few months later the basketball team from this losing high school slaughtered our team, something like 60-18. It was sweet revenge for them. The second time we met in basketball competition, the game was very close and I can’t recall which team won.


47 posted on 10/23/2013 7:58:25 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: massmike

Our coach told us that if we cannot stop them from running all over us then we deserve to get what we get. Step up and be men.


48 posted on 10/23/2013 7:58:45 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: dfwgator

My old lax coach always said, “If you play not to get hurt, you will.”


49 posted on 10/23/2013 7:59:15 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Why aren’t the up the butt of the coach who is so ineffectual that his team can get destryoed 91-0.


50 posted on 10/23/2013 8:00:02 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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