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PD: Red Rock Man Kills Girlfriend With Prank
KCBD ^ | Allyson Blair

Posted on 10/23/2013 10:50:15 AM PDT by nickcarraway

A small farm town in the shadow of Picacho Peak was left in disbelief after what Pinal County Sheriff's Deputies are calling a tragic accident.

Investigators say a prank left 19-year-old Dina Dicochea dead.

According to deputies, Dicochea's boyfriend, 20-year-old Ramiro Delcid, shot her while the two were sitting in his company truck at Red Rock Feed Company just before 7 p.m. Monday.

Delcid told investigators that he thought he had taken all of the bullets out of his revolver when he aimed the gun at his girlfriend and pulled the trigger. Delcid admitted to detectives he was trying to scare her.

Reyna Soqui lives two doors down from Delcid.

"I'm sure it was an accident because he wouldn't do something like that. I have known Ramiro my whole life. He's been a great guy," said Soqui.

Soqui said Dicochea recently moved to Red Rock from Tucson and that the couple lived together. Although she never talked much with Delcid's girlfriend, she said the two seemed happy together.

"I know he loved her. They were doing good together," said Soqui.

Delcid's boss said he was a good young man and that had no idea he was carrying a gun.


TOPICS: Local News; Sports; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: arizona; banglist; shooting

1 posted on 10/23/2013 10:50:15 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

ALWAYS assume a gun is loaded, and don’t point it at anything unless you intend to fire...


2 posted on 10/23/2013 10:52:18 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: nickcarraway

Col. Coopers gun safety rules:
1. All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. (For those who insist that this particular gun is unloaded, see Rule 1.)
3. Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule. Its violation is directly responsible for about 60 percent of inadvertent discharges.
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.


3 posted on 10/23/2013 10:53:26 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: nickcarraway

Pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger is not a prank.


4 posted on 10/23/2013 10:53:37 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: nickcarraway

Nothing says “I love you” like dry-firing a gun at someone.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 10:53:50 AM PDT by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: nickcarraway

Its not a tragic accident. Its gross stupidity. Either that he is lying and covering it up with this BS story.


6 posted on 10/23/2013 10:54:51 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: Starstruck

Another liberal looney toon shooting. Yeah maybe they should outlaw guns....for liberals.


7 posted on 10/23/2013 10:55:09 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: nickcarraway

nope... involuntary manslaughter at least


8 posted on 10/23/2013 10:56:57 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: crusadersoldier

“Its not a tragic accident. Its gross stupidity. Either that he is lying and covering it up with this BS story.”

Yep. And he should be at least be charged with negligent homicide.


9 posted on 10/23/2013 10:58:16 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: thorvaldr

you can tell someone who is trained on a gun, their finger is straight OFF the trigger

I remember watching a video of a woman who accidentally shoots a gun- no one told her NOT to touch the trigger, to her a trigger was where your finger goes


10 posted on 10/23/2013 10:59:02 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: nickcarraway
On the face of it, I would assume Felony Manslaughter.
But we have a new County Attorney (DA) here that is trying to make a name for himself as a tough on crime law and order type. So the charge may be higher. However, an acquittal for say, Murder 2 would be bad for his reputation.
11 posted on 10/23/2013 11:00:56 AM PDT by Tupelo ( Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. An old Republican Tradition.)
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To: Mr. K

At the very least he should be castrated should he be allowed to remain free.

We should make every effort to prevent him from promulgating the “stupid gene”...


12 posted on 10/23/2013 11:04:10 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: thorvaldr

That is nearly verbatim of what my father taught me since I was a little boy, and since then I have taught my four children the same.

Pretty damn hard to hurt someone when the rules are followed.


13 posted on 10/23/2013 11:06:05 AM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: thorvaldr

In addition to the rules.....

As with many practices that require specific attention to safety and details, behavior should become habitual. For habits to form, training, practice and repetition is necessary.

Think about all the little things we do when we simply change lanes on the highway. Check the mirror, turn on the blinker, check the mirror again to be sure, then merge into another lane. Think of all the things we do habitually when you get out of a vehicle or leave the house/office. Keys, wallet, phone, ballistic producing self protection machinery, etc. (I call this my patdown). Do you check for toilet paper before you sit on the toilet?

If you have ever been on a gun range, you’ll notice that most people have a routine when handling a firearm. This is not by chance. IT’S HABIT for most. It’s a good habit and it is from knowledge, experience, practice and repetition. I expect most FReepers that handle weapons know this. But it can’t be stated enough.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 11:06:30 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: nickcarraway

He should go up for manslaughter.

What a fool.


15 posted on 10/23/2013 11:06:57 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Starstruck

I agree and sure hope he gets punished to the fullest extent permitted by law.


16 posted on 10/23/2013 11:07:27 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: editor-surveyor
Yep, he may be a good guy, but anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows, without a doubt, you never point a gun at anyone, let alone pull the trigger too! That is just plain negligent homicide. At the very least he should spend a lot of time in jail for being mortally stupid.
17 posted on 10/23/2013 11:11:54 AM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: nickcarraway

Let the idiot play Russian Roulette with a full cylinder.


18 posted on 10/23/2013 11:15:19 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: nickcarraway

Again, why should we assume this was an accident?


19 posted on 10/23/2013 11:15:31 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: nickcarraway

BS Meter rocketed off the machine and put a hole in the wall.


20 posted on 10/23/2013 11:15:53 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: Starstruck

exactly

and who knew there was a Pikachu Peak??


21 posted on 10/23/2013 11:16:07 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: nickcarraway

BS Meter rocketed off the machine and put a hole in the wall.


22 posted on 10/23/2013 11:19:51 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: nickcarraway

what kind of ‘boyfriend’ pulls a prank like that? what was he trying to do pointing a gun at his ‘girlfriend’ and pulling the trigger?


23 posted on 10/23/2013 11:30:25 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: nickcarraway

Premeditated murder. Seek death penalty, and fire reporter.


24 posted on 10/23/2013 11:32:09 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: GeronL
Again, why should we assume this was an accident?


25 posted on 10/23/2013 11:37:28 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: thorvaldr
Bears repeating, with emphasis:

Col. Coopers gun safety rules:

1. All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.

2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. (For those who insist that this particular gun is unloaded, see Rule 1.)

3. Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule. Its violation is directly responsible for about 60 percent of inadvertent discharges.

4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.

26 posted on 10/23/2013 12:00:02 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: nickcarraway

WTF kinda joke is pointing a gun at someone. Oh, he’s a nice guy ,Oh he loved her. You got to be f’ing kidding right.


27 posted on 10/23/2013 12:14:16 PM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: nickcarraway
Delcid told investigators that he thought he had taken all of the bullets out of his revolver when he aimed the gun at his girlfriend and pulled the trigger. Delcid admitted to detectives he was trying to scare her.

Assuming that story is true that isn't a prank. Sounds more like mental abuse and could draw a charge of assault and battery and probably some other charges.

28 posted on 10/23/2013 12:47:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: GeronL
Again, why should we assume this was an accident?

Yes, I have my doubts too. Even if he did it on purpose, does anyone think he would admit to murder?

29 posted on 10/23/2013 1:28:21 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: jboot

LMAO!!


30 posted on 10/23/2013 1:32:27 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: nickcarraway
Ironically these kind of situations (if this was indeed an accident) are a product of strict gun control.

I was brought up with guns around me and was taught at an early age to respect guns and never toy around with them. My time in the Marine Corps reinforced that. It was drummed into us in the Marine Corp that any "accidental" discharge of our weapon under any circumstances would result in court-martial and brig time.

These days, not many people are exposed to guns at an early age because of all the hysteria surrounding them. Therefore it is easy for accidents to happen. It's like tossing the car keys to your 18-year-old kid without any previous driving experience.

31 posted on 10/23/2013 1:53:19 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: TexasRepublic
Reminds me of every once in awhile you hear of some dimbulb playing russian roulette with a semiauto... they should let him do that.

CC

32 posted on 10/23/2013 3:34:36 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: nickcarraway

Like many here, I don’t believe it. Anyone stupid enough to point a revolver at someone and pull the trigger is guilty of reckless homicide at the very least and probably premeditated murder. Life without parole is the minimum reasonable sentence.


33 posted on 10/23/2013 3:56:11 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: nickcarraway

you don’t do ‘pranks’ with a real gun.


34 posted on 10/23/2013 5:17:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Pollster1; All

Given the current quality of reporting, I have my doubts that it was a revolver.

“Accidental” shootings like this are most commonly the result of taking out the magazine and leaving one in the chamber.

A good reason to offer a basic gun safety class in high school.


35 posted on 10/23/2013 6:07:51 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Mr. K
Agreed. Neighbor's cousin did similar (alcohol was involved), with a shotgun, at a party, killed one of his friends.
36 posted on 10/23/2013 6:14:52 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Obadiah
Yep, he may be a good guy, but anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows, without a doubt, you never point a gun at anyone, let alone pull the trigger too! That is just plain negligent homicide. At the very least he should spend a lot of time in jail for being mortally stupid.

No, anybody with solid and early in life training in safe handling of firearms knows that. Too many people are growing up without a real no-nonsense gun awareness session. Like this kid, obviously. It's not an excuse for this, just some explanation. We shouldn't assume that this kid had the benefit of the same awareness training we've all had. Clearly he did not. I could never bring myself to pull the trigger on a gun pointed at a friend, even after checking several times that it was empty. I just couldn't do it. My finger wouldn't have the strength to overcome my fear.

37 posted on 10/23/2013 6:29:51 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

My comment notwithstanding... Assuming the facts are really as presented, I don’t see the point in a heavy prison sentence for him. His punishment is already started in the vision he will have for the rest of his life of his girlfriend bleeding out next to him because of his stupid prank. I’d say he’s had the lesson driven home. Of all of us... He’s the least likely now to ever have an accidental discharge again.

Putting him in prison for a long time now just ensures that he’ll never amount to anything in life and will probably be educated in all the wrong arts instead. Prison should be for separating people from civilized society when they’ve proven they cannot live among the free. This kid has gotten a crash course in the effects of stupidity... And likely isn’t going to be dangerous to society as a whole anymore. Imprisonment at this point just creates another wasted life. I don’t see the point. Some other punishment perhaps.


38 posted on 10/23/2013 6:42:29 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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