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Deathmatch review: Windows 8.1 vs. OS X Mavericks
InfoWorld ^ | 10/23/2013 | By Galen Gruman

Posted on 10/23/2013 2:13:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; microsoft; osx; windows81

1 posted on 10/23/2013 2:13:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

2 posted on 10/23/2013 2:14:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Totally worth the extra $1,000 to send email and update facebook. And be able to do fewer math calculations in excel


3 posted on 10/23/2013 2:19:40 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: SeekAndFind

Donate to the Jobs widow and orphans fund - buy an Apple product today.


4 posted on 10/23/2013 2:21:44 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

As one who hates, loathes, and f*rts in the general direction of Microsoft, I must admit that windows 7 (used at work) is not bad at all. It’s interesting, however, that our company now allows employees to choose their computers every replacement cycle - and PC populations are diminishing as fast as children in liberal households.

This is not to exonerate Apple, however, Mountain Lion had a number of very irritating “improvements”, and iOS7’s new graphics make me think they’re hiring the engineers that Microsoft fired.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 2:25:27 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind
My opinion is that this review is far too generous to Microsoft Windows.

Not since the pre-Win95 days has there been such a stark contrast between the Mac vs. PC and a plainly obvious winner in that age old 'which is better?' debate. It's the Mac by far.

Anyone buying a new PC system running MSFT Windows 8.1 (or upgrading to 8.1) and using an Android phone or Nexus tablet is just flat wrong. It's so bad as to be embarrassing.

6 posted on 10/23/2013 2:31:02 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: SeekAndFind
I had to replace two computers, and both replacements came with Windows 8. I can only ask, what were the geniuses at Microsoft THINKING when they wrote that OS? For crying out loud, Windows XP was better.
7 posted on 10/23/2013 2:42:21 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I got Windows 8.1, and it works fine, got it set up to my liking, and I works for me 100%. Yeah, I hated it at first, but now I “get” it, and all that I don’t like about it, I just don’t use.


8 posted on 10/23/2013 3:25:28 PM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: Da Coyote
The one thing I was really looking forward to on Windows 7 at work was being able to anchor two screens side by side. I have a piece of software that I do quite a bit of moving numbers between two window.

Of course that software isn't compatible with Windows 7.

9 posted on 10/23/2013 3:31:00 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for the article.

I have a Mac Mini (Mountain Lion) and I run Windows 7 as a Virtual machine via Parallels 8.

I use two monitors at home, and occasionally a third monitor if I need a bit more space.

I went Mac when Windows 8 came out. WTF was Microsoft thinking?

My computer really works well as I have Microsoft Office Professional installed and use multiple programs easily.

OS 10.8 is pleasant to use, syncs to my iPad and iPhone instantly and serves music and movies to the house entertainment system via Apple TV.

If Mavericks seems good, I’ll do the free upgrade. Sounds like a few nice features.

Will I ever go back to a 100% Windows computer? Who knows...

I put this small computer into my computer bag, add a keyboard and mouse, a 16” USB monitor and a 15’ poser cord. It’s remarkably portable and has two 750 GB internal drives (1.1 TB used). I have never been so happy with a computer as I have two great OS in one very small package.

It’s a tremendous machine that I never would have purchased if Microsoft had not screwed up it’s OS with Windows 8.


10 posted on 10/23/2013 4:02:38 PM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Still Thinking; ...

11 posted on 10/23/2013 4:38:33 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: SeekAndFind

If they didn’t give OSX a ludicrous 10 on the bogus “value” scale these scores would probably be identical.

lol


12 posted on 10/23/2013 4:48:53 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SeekAndFind

hilarious

scores APP stores as a plus and then gives Windows no score for web browsing, as if no one has ever used the internet from Windows. No one has ever shared anything on Windows or used social media from Windows I guess.


13 posted on 10/23/2013 4:50:35 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ShadowAce

Thanks for the ping. After being on Ubuntu for a few months now, I see no reason to try to stay on the Windows Update Treadmill, and even less reason to buy Apple. Cost-Benefit analysis gets very obvious when the cost is almost $zero compared to the competition. Added to that is better virus protection than Windows plus Ease of Updating without having to buy a completely new OS.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 4:51:45 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: The KG9 Kid

The idea that PC’s, tablets and phones should all use the same OS is ridiculous


15 posted on 10/23/2013 4:51:56 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kevmo

Ubuntu rocks for me too


16 posted on 10/23/2013 4:53:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

If you were a tech pundit who wrote that exact phrase you just replied to me, you’d be the most laughably maligned journalist on the Internet today.

I’m very sorry.


17 posted on 10/23/2013 10:47:15 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

I don’t care, I don’t see where I’m wrong


18 posted on 10/23/2013 10:48:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

I don’t even see where you explained yourself.

Why is it ‘ridiculous’?


19 posted on 10/23/2013 10:55:25 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Zhang Fei

Donate to one of the richest men in the world’s fund - buy a Microsoft e product today.


20 posted on 10/23/2013 10:56:18 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Different devices do different things. A phone is not a PC, nobody is writing novels or writing software on a telephone. Nobody is going to do serious work-related computing on a telephone.

I like to write, it sort of my version of day dreaming. I’ll never do that on a phone with its tiny screen and stupid touch screen and I will never do that on a tablet.

I still haven’t been able to locate the CD burner on the IPhone or IPad, either.

That’s all fine. Different devices are used for different things. It makes no sense at all to put a touch screen OS on a laptop or desktop. Nobody is going to reach out and type out a screen play on a laptop screen even if had a touch screen, which most do not.

Is there a “Touch here for the keypad, to make phone calls” button? Sorry, I have no mic or camera on my laptop and that was a purposeful choice when I bought it.

It seems like expecting Lobster from a lemonade stand to think that telephones, tablets, ATM machines, TicketMaster machines, Parking Meters, Refrigerators, Car Engines and stuff should run the same Operating System.


21 posted on 10/23/2013 11:06:04 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

What you just wrote I agree with, and especially Apple as they pointed out in yesterday’s Apple media event where they showed a comical road sign with a squiggly traffic arrow looping around and around while explaining that their competitors are totally confused: they have PCs and laptops that try to be tablets and tablets that try to be phones. Even phones that try to be PCs. They all suck for the reasons you just mentioned. With MSFTs Surface tablet for instance, nobody’s buying them even when MSFT subsidizes the MSRP to sell them at cost.

You started this conversation talking about OS software but I’m reading you talking about hardware.

You’re not articulating support for whatever point you were originally making about unified operating systems spanning devices as ‘ridiculous’. I’m saying that once you see how Apple products work/interact/communicate with one another seamlessly — iPad, OSX, iPhone - compared to trying the same thing with a MSFT PC + Android solution (or, far worse a miserable Windows desktop + Windows phone solution) you’d change your mind just like *that*. I do realize I’m talking to a scarce minority niche user of a self-supported Linux distro, so maybe not. You’re evidently getting along swell without anything being simply integrated.

(Lastly, I’m puzzled why you’re burning anything to a DVD/R anymore. I’m sure you have your reasons)


22 posted on 10/24/2013 12:13:10 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: GeronL

Talking to a Makinsuck fanboi is like talking to a pebble on the bottom of a pond (with moss all over it).


23 posted on 10/24/2013 2:35:27 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Kevmo

Unity drove me nuts :/

I am happy with Mint KDE ;^)


24 posted on 10/24/2013 2:37:40 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Da Coyote
our company now allows employees to choose their computers every replacement cycle - and PC populations are diminishing as fast as children in liberal households.

Give it time. They'll go back to PCs in short order. Or, at the least, they'll opt for Chromebooks or Linux workstations.

Our company adopted a similar tack a few years ago. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were spent on Apple devices for entire departments. As IT security started to increase their enforcement of policies, those with Apple devices were most likely to be found in violation. Apple devices do not play nice in Windows-based environments such as Active Directory without using MDM and other Apple-proprietary device management tools. Add to that the problem of finding competent techs, and more often than not, departments, slowly at first, began transitioning back to PCs and Linux machines due to better compatibility with back-end infrastructure.

Apple is great for play time. They're great for design and marketing. They are NOT great nor do they perform at the same cycles-per-dollar rate as PCs (generally, not Windows, specifically) for office automation, computer programming, administration, or large scale deployments. Apple will never break out into corporate business due to initial cost and total cost of ownership.

I can pull 15 - 20 fresh-out-of-high-school techie kids into an IT call center or a desktop support team and put them to work on PCs and Windows with little concern, but you'll have a hard time finding a true Mac expert in that crowd, and God forbid they break any of the components in/on an Apple device.

25 posted on 10/24/2013 5:11:57 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: The KG9 Kid; GeronL

For the record, KG9, some of us prefer device anonymity. I have an iPhone, an iPad, a Windows 7 desktop for gaming, and a VMware ESXi server running multiple Ubuntu server and desktop clients.

The phone is a phone. It makes calls. It sends text messages.

The tablet is a toy and serves to control my Raspberry Pi devices around the house through Constellation.

The Windows 7 desktop is a liquid cooled processing powerhouse used to play 3D games.

The only common thread among these devices is the server, and I ensure complete anonymity of devices across my network. The phone doesn’t talk to the tablet or the PC, the tablet doesn’t talk to the phone or the PC. I prefer it that way. I turned off Apple’s iCloud and AirPlay. I eschew Apple technologies in general. While they make things “easier,” that “ease of use” comes with a cost, and that cost is often your privacy.

Apple devices may be neato, keen, and cool, but they’re far from safeguarding your personal data. If you want to have that little bit of comfort and ease, fine, but many people prefer clear lines of distinction between devices. I am one of those people.


26 posted on 10/24/2013 5:19:34 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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