Skip to comments.FR Contest: Will Sibelius resign/get fired? If so, guess the date she goes under the bus?
Posted on 10/24/2013 6:40:21 AM PDT by ken5050
FReepers are well know for their political acumen. So, in advance of the House hearing today on how NOT to design a website, do you think she'll stay or go? If she goes, when? And will Obama try and seem tough, efficient, announcing that he had "requested her resignation.".
Pffft... Eric Holder didn’t resign and many people died because of him. Sibelius won’t resign either. We have very weak Republicans who couldn’t even force the corrupt Holder to resign.
Sibelius isn’t going anywhere.
I believe she knew all along that this wasn’t going to work and that she’d be fired to BS the public into thinking it’s being repaired. There’s nothing to repair. It’s not working just fine.
She will not leave or be fired.
Liberals never resign for any reason. In fact, scrooing up as she did is a badge of honor in obamaville. Promotions and pay raises for her are in the cards as well probably.
She stays put.
I believe she will not get fired or resign....she will simply go behind the curtain with Holder and sit there until the fire dies down.
Too easy. No one pays for the really big outrageous acts except possibly some low-level innocents.
She’s gone, before mid November.
She should be wary of late Friday phone calls.
The good news is, bus injuries are covered by Obamacare.
She will not resign, nor be fired.
No Obama admin. officials are responsible for anything.
Just like their boss who appointed them.
The web portal they are trying to construct is enormously complex, the degree to which rivals landing people on Mars and bring them home again. There simple are no quick fixes. Systems like this take years and decades to build.
Beyond that, it's not just a web portal, the whole Obamacare system simply does not nor cannot work. It is trying to fit a sharp-edged and square socialist system into a free-market round hole. It won't work unless an inordinate amount of force is applied in some direction.
Premiums will skyrocket. Over time the quality of health care will assuredly become worse. Shortages and even scarcity in certain areas will become normal. To try and fill the expanding shortages quality will suffer as the government lowers standards to meet needs.
This portal/website is a mere harbinger of things to come. Health care in this country is about to get trashed.
If Holder get’s to stick around, the bar is set pretty low - probably below ground level.
0 will promoter her into his WH staff.
Sibelius will deflect the blame by getting a sex change.
Tough call. She’s female, but potentially heterosexual. That’s one ‘for’ and one ‘against’. Given this ‘push’, Barack Hussein will not force a resignation.
No, and no.
The last cabinet member I can remember resigning was William Jennings Bryan in 1915 when he refused to sign a diplomatic note that Wilson wanted to him to send to the Germans.
We do not have any politicians that would give up the gravy train. Honor for them is as light as a feather and not as heavy as a mountain. Honor means nothing to them, its just a word to use on a talk show or in a throw-away election commercial that will be forgotten by many folks. Can’t wait to see how many Dems will express that they were against Obamacare in their 2014 campaign commercials.
She won’t resign willingly, she would have to be pushed off the stage
HELL OF A JOB, SEBELIUS!!!!!!
I don’t expect her to leave. While she might make a good scape goat for Obama, he does not want to deal with confirmation hearings drawing more light to this. The path of least resistance will probably be to blame a contractor even though apparently no one single contractor was in charge of this project.
Obama never fires people for incompetence... in fact he usually promotes them. He’ll probably make a new position for her, something like “Goddess of Mind, Body and Spirit” or some such thing.
Obama's going to dig in. Any delay in Obamacare will vindicate Ted Cruz, and Obama will not allow that to happen.
“The last cabinet member I can remember resigning was William Jennings Bryan in 1915 when he refused to sign a diplomatic note that Wilson wanted to him to send to the Germans.”
That is interesting.
I recall reading years ago (10-15 years) where at one time it was “traditional” that every one or two years the cabinet members would offer to resign - verbally and directly to the President.
The offer was likely to be refused, but the intent was to keep the President from asking a sitting cabinet member to resign that he had once appointed.
I do not recall the source, as it has been so long since seeing that, and when (or if) the “tradition” died off.
Just what I was going to write. Any confirmation hearing opens up a can of worms! Plus serving cabinet secretaries have much more legal protection than ex-secretaries. So, no resignation, no firing.
Just remember this is the most transparent and ethical administration in history. It says so right on the label, just below “Union Made” and “You didn’t build this!” (If the latter refers to this mess, why are they trying so hard to blame everyone else for it?)
The first thing that cabinet members do upon being sworn in is submit an undated letter of resignation to the Chief of Staff..
Why should Sebelius resign when she’s succeeded so brilliantly?
1. Obama's narcissism won't allow it, ever since Van Jones stepped down.
2. Obama doesn't want two confirmation hearings going on in the Senate (Homeland and HHS).
Nope. That would be Obama admitting 1) he picked somebody who wasn’t good, 2) the website isn’t as easy as “booking a hotel room”, 3) the problem (which doesn’t exist) with the website is not due to Republicans being cheap with money (new talking point yd, various sources echoing it today), and 4) there’s something wrong with Obamacare itself that made the website construction harder than usual.
A quibble: I can’t think of any that have resigned under pressure, but many have simply voluntarily packed up their bags and moved on. Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar comes to mind immediately as just one example.
Ah, I rummaged around a little and see that the AG is indeed part of the Cabinet. I thought is was just “Secretary of X”. In that case, AG’s Mitchell (Nixon) and Meese (Reagan) did indeed resign under pressure.
I sure that some might have resigned under pressure, but I am unaware of any of them that have stood up and said I don’t agree with what the President is doing and therefore I resign. This was the case with William Jennings Bryan.
In this country, there are very few who stand up and state I don’t agree and I hereby resign; or I should be held responsible for actions that occurred during my watch.
When was the last time a military officer tendered his resignation? Looking at the mix of officers at the upper command echelons, I fear for this country.
Yep nobody is going to leave on principle these days. At best, they’ll have something lined up at a think tank or university and that will be their exit line.