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Brett Favre worries about memory loss due to CTE. Is that what happened to Grant Feasel?
Oct. 25, 2013 | Lee Martell

Posted on 10/25/2013 5:50:52 PM PDT by lee martell

Brett Favre played 321 consecutive games, and threw 552 touchdown passes in his 20 year NFL career. Brett, (D.O.B. Oct.10.69) is 44 now, and will not be returning to the field in that capacity. Nowadays, Brett says that he has experienced a few episodes of memory loss. Recently, Brett admitted uncertainty about how many of his accomplishments he could recall without some good natured prompting. Family issues as well, Brett says "I don't remember my daughter playing youth soccer one summer, and that concerns me. Brett supports the idea of better head protection for football players against trauma. He believes the aggressive spirit of the game doesn't have to be compromised. The trauma Brett was referring to is entitled Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy, or CTE. CTE can only be fully identified post mortem, by a qualified coroner. The trauma occurs often but not exclusively in athletes who absorb repeated knocks and blows to the head. This could also include those in the martial arts, as in boxing or certain types of karate.

Brett may be over-worrying about the small changes of getting older and not being in tip-top, near Olympic condition, but time will tell. Now if Brett said that he commonly forgets that he even HAS a daughter at all, I would say, get thee to your neurologist today.

My 10 year old nephew collects football cards. I noticed one in his collection; a Grant Feasel. Grant Feasel was a 6ft7in player in the Seattle Seahawks around 1991. I don't keep up with this sort of sport detail. I'm more into politics or sociology. I do recall hearing of him years back. I was just curious as what this guy was doing now. Turns out he died July 15 2012 at the age of 52. I never could find out what he died from. I do recall hearing John Madden say to somebody, "Any, football player who goes through even one superbowl will have a new set of physical problems with them from that point on, It's a given". Hopefully, the game can be made a little safer without taking too much power play or spontaneity out of it. Americans do love their football experience served up hot and overflowing.


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1 posted on 10/25/2013 5:50:52 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

Well, boo hoo, hoo. I’d like to have retired when I was 44, but I’m much older than that and am still working. Cry me a river you NFL pukes.


2 posted on 10/25/2013 5:58:04 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: lee martell

Try getting older and see what your memory is like when trying to find a word that you know like the back of your hand and it won’t come.


3 posted on 10/25/2013 6:02:43 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: lee martell

Sports like football and boxing that by their nature result in repetitive head trauma and certainly harm the brain. However there is no law forcing people to box or play football. You cannot have both the freedom of individuals making choices and laws that restrict those choices. First they will pass laws to “protect the children”. Then given the cost to socialized medicine of caring for the injuries and brain damage, the sports will be heavily restricted. Then it will be a crime it even box or play football privately. BTW Brett had a history of opiate addiction.


4 posted on 10/25/2013 6:20:01 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Parmy

I was at Southern Miss when Favre was there. He really was a great QB.

I have seen him make throws in the most awkward position and still have so much mustard on it, that the receiver could not handle it. Some of those at extremely long distances too.

He literally had the strongest throwing arm I have ever seen.


5 posted on 10/25/2013 6:21:22 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: lee martell
Having worked for decades with neurosurgeons and a neuropatholigist,as well as medical researchers of various disciplines,I can safely say that regardless of what political considerations are at play regarding the NFL and head injuries the simple fact is that this is a *medical* issue.Repeated mild (or not so mild) head injuries either *do*,or *do not*,lead to chronic problems during,or after,an NFL career is over.

It would appear that leftists are salivating at the opportunity of discrediting the NFL and that yesterday's tobacco lawyers are circling again...like the vultures they are.But science is the only thing that matters here.

6 posted on 10/25/2013 6:21:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: caver
I can guarantee you that your candy a$$ never went through the punishment his did. While you're whining about how "tough" your job is, he was going through hours of conditioning and practice. While you were sitting in your LA-Z-BOY in a 72 degree house, eating pizza and yelling at the TV, he's on the field in 38 degree temps with rain coming down. When was the last time you had 280# guys chasing you, trying to hit you with their entire body, causing as much pain as possible?

Have you ever played with athletes that are near pro level? I HAVE!!!

They are SOOOOOOO far beyond the HS or college level kids you played with.

Beyond natural ability, they have drive and determination far beyond the average person. Its that drive and determination and hard work that molded and formed that natural ability. Hard work that continued and excelled in the pro's.

I work in construction, in conditions that would make average people run away crying. I lift and carry large, heavy objects. I work in sweltering heat or zero degree temps. Rain, snow or shine.

I know what it was like to work in factories and what its like to work retail. Today, I work MUCH harder than I ever did in retail or factories. Often times just having to SUCK-IT-UP and DEAL-WITH-IT. But hey, the pay is relatively decent (but not what a pro athlete makes).

But the one thing I know, no matter how tough my job is, I don't go through anywhere near the punishment a pro athlete, ESPECIALLY a pro football player.

7 posted on 10/25/2013 6:21:42 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: lee martell

There’s no helmet that can stop the brain from going one way and the skull another way. You don’t have to be hit on the head for your brain to jiggle around, just a sudden force. You could be tackled in the body, fall down, trip, whatever. And there’s a lot of that in the course of a football career up to and through the bigs. It’s not one catastrophic hit or blow, it’s repeated moderate bumps to the brain, although getting these moderate blows soon after a true concussion might make the damage worse.

Meaningful HGH testing in particular might help curtail super fast 300+ behemoths that can play and train so hard and recover from injuries in record time over the course of a season. But the NFL, the players union, the sports media and what seems like a majority of NFL fans don’t really care, for a variety of reasons. If they did, you would see more stories about it, instead of outrage at the antics of thugs and the name Redskins.

Freegards


8 posted on 10/25/2013 6:22:01 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: lee martell

I forgot what I was going to say....


9 posted on 10/25/2013 6:23:58 PM PDT by MrIndi
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To: lee martell

I’ve had 2 fractured skulls, 7 concussions, been run over by a car, and had a stroke but I’m OK. I guess some people are just lucky


10 posted on 10/25/2013 6:26:03 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: mountn man

The point is that they know what they are getting in to. They are making a trade off. They should accept the consequences.


11 posted on 10/25/2013 6:31:07 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: rottndog
The point is that they know what they are getting in to. They are making a trade off. They should accept the consequences.

Likewise, the person in the stands or at home, cheering the hits another makes or takes, then making stupid comments about said pro athlete.

I'm tired of people making @$$hole comments about pro athletes about how much money they make, blah blah blah.

Ever watch "The Deadliest Catch"? That's some bad@$$ work. Often a boat goes down or a man gets swept overboard, doing that line of work. I suppose we should have the attitude with them and their families of "Oh well...they knew what they were getting into"

12 posted on 10/25/2013 6:44:43 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Ransomed

13 posted on 10/25/2013 6:47:14 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

Those fisherman are making an informed decision and taking a calculated risk...difficult dangerous work in exchange for the potential of a large payday. Same for professional athletes.


14 posted on 10/25/2013 6:57:45 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: lee martell

Brett can’t remember he retired, so what?


15 posted on 10/25/2013 6:58:51 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: lee martell

Hey Brett, I’d worry a whole lot more about lapses in moral consciousness than short term memory.


16 posted on 10/25/2013 7:02:48 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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To: lee martell

As long Brett is able to worry he’s o.k.


17 posted on 10/25/2013 7:06:37 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: lee martell

nah, Brett, you are just a big dorky dumb football player, but at least you got payed for playing a game


18 posted on 10/25/2013 7:41:24 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: lee martell

I do recall hearing John Madden say to somebody, “Any, football player who goes through even one superbowl will have a new set of physical problems with them from that point on, It’s a given”.


I grew up in Chicago when Ditka was coaching Da Bears, and I remember a kid at my school went to the same church as him. Even though he seemed in good shape on the sidelines, the kid said he would come into church on two canes, or even a wheelchair, because his knees were completely shot. He just toughed it out for the cameras during games, apparently.


19 posted on 10/25/2013 7:44:26 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: mountn man

Ha!

“Epic Red Sox Fail of 2012”

Freegards


20 posted on 10/25/2013 7:52:26 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: lee martell

With him it might be wise to check drug and alcohol abuse first.


21 posted on 10/25/2013 7:59:08 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (When His Arrogance talks out of his a$$, Harry Reid's lips move.)
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To: namvolunteer

You’re going to make the Six Billion Dollar Man jealous.
Some family lines are simply more physically or mentally or emotionally durable. This toughness can be learned, but comes easier if that’s already your family DNA.


22 posted on 10/25/2013 8:52:15 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Parmy

“Try getting older and see what your memory is like when trying to find a word that you know like the back of your hand and it won’t come.”

Like “Rose Law Firm,” for example?


23 posted on 10/25/2013 8:56:46 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: mountn man

Don’t sweat it with these people. I know where you’re coming from, played ball in low minors. No use trying to get your excellent point across to the couch potato people, I will clean this up, who do not even sweat when they pleasure themselves.


24 posted on 10/25/2013 8:59:29 PM PDT by gusty
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To: Boogieman

Some folks have a high threshold for pain. Consider what a woman feels during labor without an anesthetic, yes, it can be done without dying. Few would volunteer given the choice. Some can tolerate it. Either they don’t feel the pain as acutely as most do, or, they decide not to be afraid of the pain, and stop trying to avoid it.
I can still see G. Gordon Liddy talking about putting a flame to his hand, and just making a decision that he was not, not going to show any reaction. I think Liddy was a Marine, which would explain that mind training.


25 posted on 10/25/2013 9:00:34 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Ransomed

Helmets protect the skull, not what’s inside it.


26 posted on 10/25/2013 9:00:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Rembrandt

Poor Hillary, she lost all those itty bitty files that belonged to other people. Oops. I swear, she and Bill have more lives than a black cat.


27 posted on 10/25/2013 9:04:43 PM PDT by lee martell
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28 posted on 10/25/2013 9:07:20 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: dfwgator

“Helmets protect the skull, not what’s inside it.”

The reason the problem will never be solved is that even the players think better helmets will somehow fix things, like Favre. Nothing about super fast giant freaks who can recover from intense training and heal like Wolverine after playing football at the level of the present day NFL. What they really need is Brain Growth Hormone, it might even things out.

Freegards


29 posted on 10/25/2013 9:28:53 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

Go back to leather helmets and players will stop using their heads as battering rams.


30 posted on 10/25/2013 9:29:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Brett Favre Rejects Rams’ Offer to Return After Sam Bradford’s Injury
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1823236-brett-favre-reportedly-rejects-rams-offer-to-return-after-sam-bradfords-injury


31 posted on 10/25/2013 9:46:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: dfwgator

I used to think that, but I’m not sure now. I think there might be too much money in modern day football for it to be as much as a governor to physical play/leading with the head like it was back in the day. You have the advances of chemistry and medical treatment now. I guess it would depend on how squeamish the fans became, it might work depending on that. But it’s a moot point, the culture isn’t sending them out with helmets softer than what they have now, in my opinion.

Freegards


32 posted on 10/25/2013 9:47:50 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: dfwgator

If there is anything there to start...


33 posted on 10/25/2013 10:18:55 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dem's do & voted!)
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To: MrIndi

Don’t feel bad. That (forgetting why I sent myself somewhere) happens to me more than I would ever admit in any courtroom or confessional.


34 posted on 10/25/2013 11:01:15 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: mountn man

Listen here candy ass, you know nothing about me. These sports players chose their own destiny, so no sympathy from me. people like you who put these players on a pedestal and call them heroes are really clueless. Unless you forgot, sports is a game.


35 posted on 10/26/2013 9:32:59 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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