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Have a Coke and a GMO?
Politico ^ | 28 Oct 2013 | Bill Tomson

Posted on 10/28/2013 1:46:29 PM PDT by Theoria

The Coca-Cola Company isn’t smiling about the latest effort to force labels on foods and beverages that contain genetically modified organisms – this time in Washington State. It’s on a long list of manufacturers that sell products using ingredients derived from either corn or soy, both of which are nearly impossible to source in the United States without using genetically modified crops.

In fact, should Washington pass its ballot initiative 522 next week, good luck finding any processed foods or beverages in an Evergreen State grocery store that don’t have GMO warning labels.

Coca-Cola and PepsiCo both are on a list of 34 companies that now have contributed to a combined $11 million donation made by the Grocery Manufacturers Association to the campaign against I-522, which would require products in Washington to be labeled when they contain GMOs, GMA revealed earlier this month. Coke and Pepsi were identified as giving $1.52 million and $1.35 million respectively. In total, the “No on I-522” campaign has raised $21.4 million, and — at press time — had spent only $13 million of that amount.

Other top donors include: Nestle USA Inc. ($1,528,206), General Mills ($869,270), ConAgra Foods ($828,521), Campbell Soup ($384,888), The Hershey Company ($360,450), The J.M. Smucker Company ($349,977), Kellogg Company ($322,049) and Hormel Foods Company ($76,803).

Ballots are being collected through Nov. 5. The law, if passed, would go into effect on July 1, 2015, in Washington, though experts believe the vote ultimately could force companies to begin labeling for GMOs nationwide rather than create separate labels for one state.

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TOPICS: Food; Society
KEYWORDS: cancer; cocacola; coke; cokecola; corruption; fda; geneticallymodified; gmo; hfcs; infertility; label; monsanto; nohumanstudies; onlyuscn; washington

1 posted on 10/28/2013 1:46:29 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

I like my Coke, but...if someone’s biggest concern about that concoction of chemicals is the GMO in the almost-poison HFCS, they need to reexamine their priorities.


2 posted on 10/28/2013 1:49:17 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Hah...ya mean corn sugar...nice nom de guerre


3 posted on 10/28/2013 1:52:16 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Bryanw92

Actually, this could help.

I’ve not heard that sugar is GMO. If that throws more market share to the products using real sugar, it could put a dent in the HFCS stranglehold on the market.


4 posted on 10/28/2013 1:54:01 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Bryanw92

Actually, this could help.

I’ve not heard that sugar is GMO. If that throws more market share to the products using real sugar, it could put a dent in the HFCS stranglehold on the market.


5 posted on 10/28/2013 1:54:02 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Theoria

I wish I had one those old Pontiac GMO’s now. Plenty of room to lean back and have a Coke.


6 posted on 10/28/2013 1:55:31 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: DannyTN

Good point about possibly Coke and Pepsi may return to sugar instead of HFCS....its only in US and Canada they use HFCS instead of sugar....elsewhere in world Coke and Pepsi use sugar


7 posted on 10/28/2013 1:58:25 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I think Sierra Mist uses sugar.


8 posted on 10/28/2013 2:01:14 PM PDT by gattaca ("If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain)
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To: SeminoleCounty
You can pick up sugar Coke and Pepsi at the local hispanic supermarket or in the hispanic section of your grocery store.

Hecho en Mexico.

9 posted on 10/28/2013 2:03:14 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria
$11 million is being spent to defeat stupidity, and stupidity still might prevail.

This is what happens when you stop teaching science in school in favor of indoctrinating students with diversity, multiculturalism, and economic and social justice.

10 posted on 10/28/2013 2:04:23 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Theoria
Beer also


11 posted on 10/28/2013 2:06:41 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Bryanw92
....in the almost-poison HFCS

Good thing you never eat honey. If HFCS is man made almost-poison, then honey is nature made almost-poison.

12 posted on 10/28/2013 2:07:38 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: count-your-change

“I wish I had one those old Pontiac GMO’s now.”

Uhmmmm...GTO, possibly?


13 posted on 10/28/2013 2:08:58 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Theoria

I marched in the Coca-Cola 100th Anniversary Parade in Atlanta. Longest, hottest parade I’ve ever been in. Damn thing was like 3 miles. Most parades are about half a mile.


14 posted on 10/28/2013 2:12:03 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Rock, paper, scissors, GUN. I win.)
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To: Mase

>>Good thing you never eat honey. If HFCS is man made almost-poison, then honey is nature made almost-poison.

I guess I should have put “almost-poison” in quotes. I hear that on the internet constantly. Everyone warns you about the evil danger of HFCS. The same people warn me about GMO all the time.

I used to live on a nuclear submarine, with a reactor at one end, torpedoes at the other, 16 Poseidon missiles in the middle, hundreds of feet of seawater over my head, and everything was operated by 20-24 year olds. I’m not really scared of stuff in food.


15 posted on 10/28/2013 2:12:10 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: real saxophonist

Dam, good thing they had cokes on hand!


16 posted on 10/28/2013 2:12:27 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Yeah, they did, and they were very welcome.


17 posted on 10/28/2013 2:17:57 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Rock, paper, scissors, GUN. I win.)
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To: DannyTN

It isn’t yet, but it will be in ten years or less. They are working on a GMO sugar cane that will be nitrogen fixing like legumes (peas and beans), ending or greatly reducing the need for chemical fertilizer.

And it will be just as safe or safer than non GMO sugar and way better for the environment.

People who are so scientifically ignorant about GMO food crops should simply purchase expensive certified organic foods and stop being a nuisance to the rational members of the human race.


18 posted on 10/28/2013 2:20:43 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Theoria

Yeah, and those are really good. In glass bottles.


19 posted on 10/28/2013 2:21:45 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Rock, paper, scissors, GUN. I win.)
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To: Bryanw92
My bad. Boy, did I ever miss the point of your post.

...used to live on a nuclear submarine, with a reactor at one end, torpedoes at the other, 16 Poseidon missiles in the middle, hundreds of feet of seawater over my head, and everything was operated by 20-24 year olds. I’m not really scared of stuff in food.

No kidding. That really puts things into perspective well.....We've become a nation of phobics. This is just more chemicalphobia. It's a common affliction these days. I blame government education.

20 posted on 10/28/2013 2:25:16 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: count-your-change
I wish I had one those old Pontiac GMO’s now. Plenty of room to lean back and have a Coke. I'm pretty sure they said GTO, just saying...sorry just remembering the SNL skit.
21 posted on 10/28/2013 2:26:13 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SeminoleCounty

Because the sugar monopoly allowed in the US raises the cost too much to use it. Hersheys shifted some candy making to Canada too.


22 posted on 10/28/2013 2:29:30 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Primary and beat the RINO's.)
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To: DannyTN
HFCS is used because domestic sugar got sugar imports restricted.

What's the protectionist position on this issue?

Open the market to "good sugar" imports, or protect domestic "bad HFCS"?

23 posted on 10/28/2013 2:30:00 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Gen.Blather

I think GTO is genetically tinkered oatmeal... That laughing Quacker on the box is a clone.


24 posted on 10/28/2013 2:30:34 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Thanks protectionists. LOL!


25 posted on 10/28/2013 2:31:10 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Valpal1
People who are so scientifically ignorant about GMO food crops should simply purchase expensive certified organic foods and stop being a nuisance to the rational members of the human race.

Exactly!

26 posted on 10/28/2013 2:32:41 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: opentalk
Never speak ill of Newsy Brown, loved the stuff since I worked for ICI on loan in Newcastle.

This is a VERY Crass Love song by the Macc Ladds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT_aF8q81sU

27 posted on 10/28/2013 2:42:52 PM PDT by Little Bill (A)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The issue is more complicated than protectionism. Sugar is protected to prevent funding communist Cuba.

Retricting trade with communist regimes was a strategy that worked well in defeating the Soviet Union. But was completely abandoned when it came to China.

And I understand but could be wrong that domestic HFCS gets more subsidies than does domestic sugar.


28 posted on 10/28/2013 2:43:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The issue is more complicated than protectionism. Sugar is protected to prevent funding communist Cuba.

Retricting trade with communist regimes was a strategy that worked well in defeating the Soviet Union. But was completely abandoned when it came to China.

And I understand but could be wrong that domestic HFCS gets more subsidies than does domestic sugar.


29 posted on 10/28/2013 2:43:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Theoria

All part of the “war on capitalism”.


30 posted on 10/28/2013 2:48:57 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: DannyTN
Sugar is protected to prevent funding communist Cuba.

Cuba is the only other sugar source?

And I understand but could be wrong that domestic HFCS gets more subsidies than does domestic sugar.

HFCS is cheaper than the inflated price of protected, domestic sugar. Foreign sugar imports are restricted. If imports were opened up, cane sugar prices would fall and it would be used in more, but not all, food products.

Don't think HFCS gets any subsidy.

31 posted on 10/28/2013 2:57:21 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Do you think you could tell by examining sugar whether it was grown in cuba or not?

HFCS may not directly, but I believe corn growers get substantial subsidies.

Tufts study: Corn subsidies are a sop to HFCS industry, but don't alone make bad food cheap

If we raised the import tariffs, there woudldn't be as much need for domestic subsidies for agriculture.

By the way, Agriculture used to be considered a military sensitive industry. Because if you don't grow your own food, you are dependent on others to field an army.

32 posted on 10/28/2013 3:03:06 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Do you think you could tell by examining sugar whether it was grown in cuba or not?

Wouldn't Brazil have an incentive to make sure "Brazilian Sugar" sent to the US was from Brazil?

If we raised the import tariffs, there woudldn't be as much need for domestic subsidies for agriculture.

You want to invite retaliation against our wildly successful ag exports, to protect a few rich sugar growers? Are you Bill Clinton? LOL!

Because if you don't grow your own food, you are dependent on others to field an army.

Yeah, because if Cuba or Brazil cut off our sugar, we have no corn to make HFCS.

33 posted on 10/28/2013 3:14:35 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Theoria

So there will now be a GMO label on all gas pumps?


34 posted on 10/28/2013 3:16:16 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I’m pretty sure that Cuban productivity is lousy anyway. They are hardly likely to be cornering the world market on sugar. We have sugar tariffs because there are sugar producers who buy politicians in sugar producing states. Any rubbish about Cuba is just smoke and mirrors.


35 posted on 10/28/2013 3:32:14 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Mase

Amen!!


36 posted on 10/28/2013 3:35:21 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Actually....it’s your fellow Free Trade Liberals that put in the restrictions on imported sugar in NAFTA. It’s also your fellow Free Trade Liberals in the environmental movement who put enviro restrictions on Florida grown sugar....which jacked up the price. Al Gore covers both butt cheeks....Free Trade and Enviro Wacko


37 posted on 10/28/2013 3:42:02 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; DannyTN

Danny...excellent summary....obviously way over our Free Trade Liberals head there.

Oh...and Bill Clinton signed NAFTA...he supports Free Trade...


38 posted on 10/28/2013 3:47:39 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: DannyTN

Rarely does one find that much crap piled onto one page and called a "study." Calling it a study doesn't change the fact that it is, in reality, unmitigated crap.

39 posted on 10/28/2013 4:07:16 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Theoria

High fructose corn syrup is not Karo.


40 posted on 10/28/2013 4:27:39 PM PDT by odawg
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To: SeminoleCounty
Actually....it’s your fellow Free Trade Liberals that put in the restrictions on imported sugar in NAFTA

Sorry, Charlie, the sugar restrictions predate NAFTA.

How do ya like your GMO HFCS now? LOL!

41 posted on 10/28/2013 4:29:07 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

No...sugar restrictions are specifically included in NAFTA....read the Agreement

Judging from your posts....you folks from DU who troll over here probably don’t read


42 posted on 10/28/2013 4:47:04 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: Bryanw92; Mase

One of my best friends served aboard USS BATFISH SSN-681. So I know where y’all are coming from.


43 posted on 10/28/2013 5:00:15 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Rock, paper, scissors, GUN. I win.)
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To: Theoria

i stopped’driking coke.

i switched back to old school pepsi, with the old logo, and made from sugar.


44 posted on 10/28/2013 5:20:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Let's try again, the sugar restrictions predate NAFTA.

You see, the sugar guys got the politicians to restrict sugar imports......BEFORE NAFTA.

So if you're blaming NAFTA for them, you're a little late to the party.

Mexico's U.S. Sugar Quota: Mexico's annual U.S. sugar quota prior to NAFTA was approximately 8,000 tons, raw value. This quota reflected Mexico's status as a net importer of sugar. While Mexico's sugar production was roughly 3.2 million tons, sugar consumption growth outstripped sugar production growth, leaving Mexico with the requirement of a relatively large sugar import demand.

In the initial deliberations of the North American Free Trade discussions, Mexico requested a 1.65 million ton quota allocation in the U.S. market. Mexico's quota request of 1.65 million tons, raw value, exceeded the 1.52 million ton quota allocated by the United States to all foreign quota recipients (40 nations) for the 1991-92 quota year. Such a large Mexican quota would have required zero quota allocations to all other foreign nations under the provisions of the 1990 Farm Bill, which required a minimum of 1.25 million tons of U.S. sugar quota to friendly foreign nations. It was unlikely that Congress would ever endorse a NAFTA proposal to concentrate our foreign sugar quotas into the hands of one nation, irrespective of our friendly status with Mexico.

Provisions and Additional Access Granted to U.S. Market PRE-NAFTA HISTORY

If you still don't understand, on account of all the big words, I'll be happy to translate this down to your 4th grade reading level.

45 posted on 10/28/2013 6:30:08 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

In case you weren’t aware of it, pepsi has been using embryonic stem cells to research the ‘taste’ of pepsi. according to this website

http://www.realfarmacy.com/pepsico-says-it-will-halt-use-of-aborted-fetal-cells-in-flavor-research/

they have discontinued that practice. Coke hasn’t used unborn baby cells and I have just kept drinking good ol’ Coke.


46 posted on 10/28/2013 6:55:46 PM PDT by 1Texas gal (Texas gal)
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To: DannyTN

I think the main crops affected by GMOs are corn, soy, sugar beets, Hawaiian papaya wheat and alfalfa. So the sugar would most likely have to come from cane sugar to be non GMO.
But I agree, if this labeling law would force Coke to go back to using cane sugar it I might even buy one once in a while.
It would eventually be a very good thing to ensure the quality of our foodstuffs in the USA and maybe even help with some of the diseases which are running rampant in the USA today, such as diabetes and celiac and ADHD. Heaven knows Obamacare is not going to help.
I live in WA and I just voted yes on 522.


47 posted on 10/28/2013 8:17:23 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: tinamina

Good Job, so did I...


48 posted on 10/28/2013 8:27:56 PM PDT by cmsgop ( The left always accuses the right for the sins of the left. from FReeper Just Lori, RIP)
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