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ObamaCare, Fines and Gun Rights
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Posted on 11/01/2013 9:32:40 AM PDT by hsmomx3

I've heard people ask if you do not participate in this new Obama Care Program, and you owe the fine and do not pay it, you are considered a felon and therefore, your gun rights would be taken away as a result. Your thoughts?


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; guns; insurance; secondamendment

1 posted on 11/01/2013 9:32:40 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3

Not paying the fine is not a felony.


2 posted on 11/01/2013 9:34:50 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: hsmomx3

I think people should be very careful about who they think should be denied various rights.


3 posted on 11/01/2013 9:35:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: hsmomx3

They can’t take what they can’t find ;-)


4 posted on 11/01/2013 9:35:11 AM PDT by LadyBuck (....and we're off to the rodeo......)
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To: hsmomx3

False rumor.


5 posted on 11/01/2013 9:35:21 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: hsmomx3

Supreme court says it’s not a fine it’s a “tax”. If you are liable to pay a tax, pay the tax. That doesn’t make you a criminal.


6 posted on 11/01/2013 9:36:09 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: LadyBuck

Ditto.


7 posted on 11/01/2013 9:38:31 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: LadyBuck

Back in the day, you were’t a felon until you were actually convicted. Maybe just the accusation is enough now. Or will they take your weapons (if you actually had any) until the case is decided. But then according to the anti’s just the fact that you would ever consider having a firearm could be grounds to have you adjudicated as having “mental issues”. What person in their “right” mind would ever want one of those?


8 posted on 11/01/2013 9:38:40 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
"Not paying the fine is not a felony."

...yet

9 posted on 11/01/2013 9:40:21 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: thorvaldr
the reason it was called a tax..is the fact that its the IRS who will be collecting any and all "fines" by confiscating them from income tax REFUNDS




10 posted on 11/01/2013 9:42:57 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Mr. K
yet..yes Indeed..YET


11 posted on 11/01/2013 9:43:45 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: hsmomx3

The connection of the “fine”, and IRS refunds has been established, and even explained “on air”.

Those of you who file your “returns”, and will receive a “refund”, are the ones that the lovable IRS will have a finger upon.

Those of us who file “returns”, and are below the taxable rates, and insert ZEROES on their “returns”, using the calculation tables supplied by the IRS in their annual Form 1040 booklets, only, are beyond scrutiny, as explained “on air”, because we do not have anything to be “refunded”.


12 posted on 11/01/2013 9:47:18 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: hsmomx3
...you owe the fine and do not pay it, you are considered a felon and therefore, your gun rights would be taken away...

Technically, it doesn't work that way, due process is required, a trial and a judicial decision (judge must order or sentence).

However, it already works just as you fear (for any disagreement with the government) by any administrative bureaucrat simply entering your name and ID into one of several government databases. It is unlawful, but removing your name from these lists is very difficult and costly, and going around them is a crime.

13 posted on 11/01/2013 9:52:39 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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Opt-Out Obamacare Penalty Can't Be Enforced -- Unless You Get a Tax Refund
14 posted on 11/01/2013 9:56:36 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: hsmomx3

There are no provisions in the law for collections. As long as you don’t overwithhold and have an income tax refund coming, there is nothing they can do. If you have an income tax refund coming, they can take it out of that.


15 posted on 11/01/2013 9:59:18 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: hsmomx3

Utter hysterical nonsense.


16 posted on 11/01/2013 10:00:36 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: LadyBuck

If the feds want to dredge ‘em up out of the lake, that’s their business...


17 posted on 11/01/2013 10:02:00 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

When in doubt, go with the Long Duck Dong explanation...

“Lake...BIG Lake”


18 posted on 11/01/2013 10:52:12 AM PDT by LadyBuck (....and we're off to the rodeo......)
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To: rktman

“What person in their “right” mind would ever want one of those?”

That’s right - who in their right mind would only want ONE?

:-)


19 posted on 11/01/2013 11:15:49 AM PDT by LadyBuck (....and we're off to the rodeo......)
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To: hsmomx3

If you like your gun, you can keep your gun, period...


20 posted on 11/01/2013 11:22:05 AM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: LadyBuck

Wery wery heep sumbitchin deep lake with no bottom.


21 posted on 11/01/2013 3:00:00 PM PDT by mcshot ("What's right is right" and we're being sunk by wrong .)
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To: Rebel_Ace

I’m going to find out how they keep their guns in Chicago. They must be cheap and use short form paperwork.


22 posted on 11/01/2013 3:02:49 PM PDT by mcshot ("What's right is right" and we're being sunk by wrong .)
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