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FreeRepublic ^ | November 4, 2013 | Oshkalaboomboom

Posted on 11/04/2013 7:20:01 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Just, fiy, after I’ve done a bunch of research and discovery on water purification/filtration for the ‘prepared’ person...

Look into combining aggregate/charcoal on a home-built gravity rainwater filtration system. Unless you’re in a very dry climate, you want that ability first and it can be utilized secondarily for general water purification/filtration by manually getting the water to the top catch basin. You can find the designs on Youtube under ‘gravity water filtering’. IMHO, I would still purify the water before drinking (bird droppings being what they are).

Also fyi, the Berkey filters have a LOT more surface area for a similar price. I suppose it depends on what you’re putting them in (head pressure). The short/fat ones are more appropriate for 5gal bucket systems.

And since we’re on the subject, perhaps stating the obvious (or not)...bleach has a shelf life from the day of manufacture; don’t even think about storing it for emergency use. Stock up on powdered forms of water purification (calcium hypochlorite, iodine & the-like).


41 posted on 11/05/2013 7:49:52 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: caww

Thanks for the reply. (#34)


42 posted on 11/05/2013 8:29:34 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: JDoutrider
samples tested after washing show great filtration even after three scrub cycles.

do you have a link?
43 posted on 11/05/2013 9:07:23 AM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: caww

good point


44 posted on 11/05/2013 9:43:08 AM PST by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: Vendome

Thanks for the Lifesaver mention. Might get a bottle for a bug-out bag and a jerry can for the house.


45 posted on 11/05/2013 1:06:03 PM PST by Betis70
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To: wafflehouse
A link to what? The testing?

It's done by the Tribal government on request... Free even!

46 posted on 11/05/2013 1:54:42 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: caww
You can use clean 2 liter soda bottles to store tap water.

A gravity filter system can be made from (2) 5 gal buckets, a spigot and 1-5 Aquacera Ceracarbs or similar Doultons. Berkeys were good but had Q C issues.

If you live in a rural area you are 2 steps ahead of the game. In the urban areas the zombies will be trading their daughters for a bottle of water after 2 days.

Run your down spouts into 55 gal drums and save the water for irrigation, laundry and flushing the toilet.

Build bio-sand filter sand, gravel and activated charcoal from 5, 25 or 55 gal drums.

Find a local spring or have a friend that will let you have spring or well water. Pay to have it tested.

Household bleach can be used to kill biological contaminants.

47 posted on 11/05/2013 2:33:22 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: caww; Sherman Logan

http://readynutrition.com/resources/better-than-bleach-use-calcium-hypochlorite-to-disinfect-water_19062010/


48 posted on 11/05/2013 2:48:36 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; All

Anyone have knowledge of/experience with a good water filtration/desalination system?


49 posted on 11/05/2013 3:10:43 PM PST by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Eagles6

I am fully aware of the difference between bleach and calcium hypochlorite.

The numbers I posted earlier are from CDC and are for swimming pool disinfection, which generally uses calcium hypochlorite.

IOW, some organisms are highly resistant to chlorine disinfection.

This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, as I acquired Giardia while backpacking in the desert, despite using iodine which is supposed to be more effective than chlorine disinfection against Giardia.

I can heartily recommend you avoid giardiasis. Cryptosporidium is even harder to disinfect using common chemicals.

Luckily, many of the common filters are fully effective against both parasites.


50 posted on 11/05/2013 3:16:39 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Just passing on an informative link.

Yeah, I got something in the 70s in Algonquin Prov Park, probably giardia. Not recommended.

51 posted on 11/05/2013 4:05:33 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I have trouble believing a claim like that.

If it’s fine enough of a filter to filter bacteria, etc., it’s going to filter particles. You can’t clean all those particles out each wash. They build up eventually.

I used an MSR Miniworks filter in a large swampy area. It cleaned the water fine and I drank it with no problems. But filling each Nalgene bottle required breaking down the filter and cleaning it off. That’s the double-edge sword of a fine filter. No way it would have gone as long as they claim if I’d been filtering only that type of water.

A million gallons of dirty water? Hard to believe.


52 posted on 11/05/2013 6:46:50 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: JDoutrider

I have the same setup as you. Three thousand gallons is a believable life expectancy of any fine filter. Anything beyond that I’m leery of believing.


53 posted on 11/05/2013 6:48:06 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Eagles6

See my other posts. That would explain my doubtfulness on the million-gallon claim.

When it comes to drinking water, I want none of the living stuff and none of the dirty stuff (including oil and chemical runoff). I want clean, pure water.


54 posted on 11/05/2013 6:50:59 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
I've gone with the Aquacera Ceracarb.

CeraCarb 9" Slimline Specifications Filtration Rating Absolute 0.7 micron Nominal 0.3 to 0.6 Capacity Gallons 1350 NSF Certified Yes Turbidity Reduction >99.7% Pathogenic Organisims E.Coli >99.999% Cholera >99.999% Shigella >99.999% Typhoid >99.999% Klebsiella >99.999% Cryptosporidium >99.999% Giardia >99.999% Organics Removal Insecticides >98% Herbicides >98% Phenols >80% PAH's >98% THM's >90% Inorganics Removal Chlorine >99.7% Chloramines >99.9%-500 gal Lead >96.2% COD >75% Arsenic >80% Nitrate >85% VOC's >99.9% Sent from my iPhone

55 posted on 11/05/2013 7:01:20 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: JDoutrider

tribal government? i dont have one of those


56 posted on 11/05/2013 8:58:00 PM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Being on well water, this area (N. MN) is high iron content. Iron can fill in the filter rather briskly so we use, as recommended, a new, fine scotch bite pad to buff the filters. We then have the natural resources dept. check our water which has turned up with no contaminates after three cycles.

Berkey says the filters are good to 10,000 gallons, or more... I'm with you however, and will set these aside and install new filters on the next go around. Might try the ceramic filters we bought at half the price to see how they do. Fingers crossed!

57 posted on 11/05/2013 10:10:42 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: wafflehouse
Tribal government? i dont have one of those...

LOL! Most folks don't!

Went Galt back in 2008, and moved to my better half's Reservation in N. MN. About 270 miles North of the insanity of the Twin Cities. Best move I ever made even considering the below zero periods...

58 posted on 11/05/2013 10:16:54 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

A good water filter should also identify itself as a “water purifier” or “water purification systems”. A product cannot legally identify itself as a “water purifier” unless it has undergone rigorous 3rd party testing.


59 posted on 11/06/2013 7:09:36 AM PST by The Duke
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To: JDoutrider

thats pretty far north... how are land prices up that way?


60 posted on 11/07/2013 8:03:31 AM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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