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LBJ Was The Man Who Killed Kennedy
disinformation ^ | 11/4/2013 | Roger Stone

Posted on 11/05/2013 5:18:16 PM PST by Pontiac

I realize that delving into the world of assassination research and a belief in a conspiracy will lead some to brand me as an extremist or a nut, but the facts I have uncovered are so compelling that I must make the case that Lyndon Baines Johnson had John Fitzgerald Kennedy murdered in Dallas to become president himself and to avert the precipitous political and legal fall that was about to beset him.

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When Lodge was in his eighties, he served vigorously as the chairman of Ronald Reagan’s campaign for President in Connecticut, a post I had recruited him for as the Northeast regional director.

Lodge had done Kennedy’s dirty work coordinating a campaign with the CIA to assassinate Catholic Vietnamese President Diem. I couldn’t resist asking John Lodge about his brother. “Did you ever ask your brother who really killed Kennedy?” I said.

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His lips spread in a tight grin. “Cabot said it was the Agency boys, some Mafiosi,” he looked me in the eye . . . “and Lyndon.”

“Did your brother know in advance?” I asked.

Lodge took a sip of his Manhattan.“He knew Kennedy wouldn’t be around to fire him. LBJ kept him at his post so he could serve his country.”

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Conspiracy; History
KEYWORDS: assination; dallas; dealeyplaza; jfk; johnfkennedy; kennedy; kennedyassassination; lbj; mafia; ohgoodlord; rogerstone; texas
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I have always thought that LBJ was more than likely behind the JFK assassination. LBJ was a power hungry man from Good Ole Boy politics of the south who hated the Kennedys.

Just curious if anyone has read the book. I browsed through the Warren Commission Report in my teens and found it boring and implausible. I haven’t yet read Stones book but I am considering getting and reading the book.

1 posted on 11/05/2013 5:18:16 PM PST by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac

This will be an interesting thread


2 posted on 11/05/2013 5:20:58 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Pontiac

Some conspiracy theorist probably concludes that JFK committed suicide in the car.


3 posted on 11/05/2013 5:21:09 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

JFK committed suicide to frame LBJ.


4 posted on 11/05/2013 5:23:03 PM PST by sagar
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To: Pontiac

like live in the real world ever one knows that the kennedy assassination was bushes fault


5 posted on 11/05/2013 5:23:09 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Pontiac
I read the interview with Stone on The Daily Caller today.

I was struck by his claim that John Mitchell (Nixon's AG) and Nixon himself were his sources for a lot of this.

6 posted on 11/05/2013 5:23:33 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Pontiac

http://www.theonion.com/articles/november-22-1963,10584/


7 posted on 11/05/2013 5:24:20 PM PST by TomServo
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To: Pontiac

I believe LBJ was capable of anything but I have not seen a shred of evidence that he had anything to do with the assassination of Kennedy.


8 posted on 11/05/2013 5:24:34 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Pontiac

9 posted on 11/05/2013 5:24:41 PM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: Pontiac

I read a book review some time back from Am Spec about a Cuban defector who implicated Castro. It sounded very plausible. Unfortunately I can’t remember the title or author.

LBJ was a jerk, but I have a hard time believing he’d do such a thing.


10 posted on 11/05/2013 5:25:22 PM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: F15Eagle

I thought so too.

I think it will be rather lively.


11 posted on 11/05/2013 5:25:25 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

After all, it was you and me.


12 posted on 11/05/2013 5:26:25 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Pontiac

If “they” could pull off a conspiracy this big, this vast, involving so many diverse masses of people from all works of life, professions and levels, and who all go to their graves with the secrets, including the new ones who maintain the secrets, then it isn’t even worth the effort to wonder about it because they would have God like powers to cloud men’s minds anyway.


13 posted on 11/05/2013 5:26:29 PM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Pontiac

Just saw one documentary which focused on ballistics and claimed that the kill shot came from a frangible round, from a secret service ar-15.

I tend to think it was just the nut, Oswald, who got in a lucky shot.


14 posted on 11/05/2013 5:26:33 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Pontiac
Lodge was an old school Brahmin who nonetheless spoke Spanish, Italian, French, and German. He enjoyed a brief career as a B-movie actor in Europe, appearing onscreen with Marlene Dietrich and Shirley Temple.

Okay, so I guess the thread's not a total loss ...

15 posted on 11/05/2013 5:26:34 PM PST by x
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To: Pontiac

16 posted on 11/05/2013 5:26:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: Pontiac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNgKwS7qQD4

I believe it


17 posted on 11/05/2013 5:26:50 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: bigheadfred

Senior or Junior?

I think Junior would have been in High School.


18 posted on 11/05/2013 5:27:25 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
jack ruby photo: Go Jack Ruby! JackRubyRocks.jpg

It certainly wasn't Oswald. He was in the middle of his awesome cover of "Long Tall Sally" when the assassination occurred.

19 posted on 11/05/2013 5:27:48 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Pontiac

I’ll make the following observation. I’ve been to the book depository building in Dallas. Ive stood next to the window Oswald used; the actual window is sealed behind a plexiglass shield. From just next to Oswalds position I could easily see the “X” painted on the roadway of Dealy Plaza marking the spot where Kennedy was hit.

I’m a fairly good shot; certainly not a Marine marksman. I could have made those shots pretty easily with a bolt action rifle. I have no doubt.


20 posted on 11/05/2013 5:28:30 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Pontiac

I have thought that Johnson was behind the assassination for years.


21 posted on 11/05/2013 5:29:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whom did it benefit

that rings a Bell but it is whirling in my head like a helicopter

22 posted on 11/05/2013 5:29:28 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: All

Ancient astronaut theorists believe that aliens killed JFK with a crystal skull that they brought from Stonehenge at the time when Nostradamus was building a nuclear reactor with Leonardo da Vinci and some aliens who were whizzing past Roswell New Mexico on their way to Area 51 where that guy with the weird hair was learning for the very first time what barbers did for a living. Just sayin, cuz the New World Order uses that as a cover story for the real truth which is ...


23 posted on 11/05/2013 5:29:36 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: RichInOC

I was only three years old and can’t remember killing Kennedy but I will take your word for it.


24 posted on 11/05/2013 5:29:47 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: RichInOC
After all, it was you and me.

Didn't they try to find some good for you and me?

25 posted on 11/05/2013 5:30:11 PM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Pontiac

it was preordained


26 posted on 11/05/2013 5:30:18 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Pontiac

I think that LBJ was in on it, but I think the Democrat party was also in on it. We find out now that JFK had a drug problem. He was having an affair with a communist agent. He was very sexually active and becoming indiscreet. LBJ was in on it, but the Democrat party tightened up the JFK loose end. And without the Vietnam War, everything might have turned out just fine for the Democrats.


27 posted on 11/05/2013 5:31:44 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Pontiac; a fool in paradise
Actually, it was Brian Epstein the manager of the Beatles, whom Kennedy at Ed Sullivan's insistence tried to prevent from entering the US. The CIA got Epstein in 1967. Here he is conspiring.


28 posted on 11/05/2013 5:32:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Pontiac
Politicians stick together in public unless they have a reason not to. But that makes them even more cutting and spiteful in private. So, sure, I don't doubt that Lodge or Nixon would say that Johnson was capable of something like this (or vice versa), but how much of that is them just letting off steam and how much is a considered judgment abut what actually could have happened.
29 posted on 11/05/2013 5:32:30 PM PST by x
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To: yarddog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNgKwS7qQD4


30 posted on 11/05/2013 5:32:51 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Pontiac
It was Howard Dean....

 photo crew20cut20oswald.jpg photo deanyrbk370.jpg

31 posted on 11/05/2013 5:33:43 PM PST by digger48
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To: muir_redwoods
I could have made those shots pretty easily with a bolt action rifle. I have no doubt.

But could you have fired 3 shots in six seconds hitting the target twice?

32 posted on 11/05/2013 5:34:05 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: 3Fingas
Search for this video on youtube:

Zapruder film Zoomed in plus SUPER SLOW MOTION (HIGH QUALITY)

Very graphic warning. IMHO, the SECOND shooter was to the left and nearly took Jackie out too.
33 posted on 11/05/2013 5:37:15 PM PST by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: TauntedTiger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqzJQE8LYrQ

I didn’t think we could post youtube links.


34 posted on 11/05/2013 5:38:42 PM PST by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: digger48
It was Howard Dean....

You might have something there.

35 posted on 11/05/2013 5:38:49 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Those left-handed Telecasters can be pretty dangerous.

First graphic I remember seeing on FR waaaaaaaaay back in the day.


36 posted on 11/05/2013 5:39:01 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Pontiac

LBJ: “Who can we get to do the job?”

Conspirator #2: “We’ve got a guy just back from the USSR. His name is Oswald. Everyone will think he’s a nut, but he can do it. We’ll put another shooter in a second location to make sure.”

Right. Having seen the conspiracy nonsense with the 9/11 “Truther” movement, I’d put this in the same category.


37 posted on 11/05/2013 5:39:33 PM PST by CASchack
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To: Pontiac

I heard that a couple days after the assasination.
I just did not know what to think, I hope it is false.


38 posted on 11/05/2013 5:39:59 PM PST by Burlem
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To: Pontiac

I’d say its not impossible. I’ll tell you this, actually visiting the book depository building made plain to me two things. Dealy Plaza is a very small space, just an intersection of city streets really. Second, the shots were not long shots by any means. A practiced Marine rifleman could have made those shots most of the time, IMHO.


39 posted on 11/05/2013 5:40:07 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Pontiac

The problem with these theories is figuring out who with power to preserve DIDN’T want John Kennedy murdered.


40 posted on 11/05/2013 5:40:48 PM PST by old-ager
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To: Pontiac

Barr McClellan wrote a book on it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1025348/posts


41 posted on 11/05/2013 5:41:47 PM PST by quantumman
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To: RichInOC

I think I was choosing the wrong song, I was thinking of Dion.


42 posted on 11/05/2013 5:42:09 PM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: blueunicorn6
I think that LBJ was in on it, but I think the Democrat party was also in on it.

I don’t think so.

Why would they take down Kennedy knowing that he would be replaced by LBJ who was in many ways worse?

43 posted on 11/05/2013 5:42:36 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

I was five months past my nineteenth birthday and stationed in Keflavik Iceland as an electronics technician on a US Navy communications station when John Kennedy was shot. On a communications base messages from all over the globe are coming through at all times. I didn’t have access to them, my job was to help keep the equipment, which was very unreliable in that era, working. I had nothing to do with the actual communications but I noticed that from the first there were all kinds of rumors about what had actually happened and one of those rumors was that LBJ was behind it. From the first day there were a lot of people who did not believe the official story.


44 posted on 11/05/2013 5:42:38 PM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: old-ager

It’s like “Murder on the Orient Express.”


45 posted on 11/05/2013 5:42:38 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Pontiac
Total BS. If LBJ as VP nomniee was so power hungry to be president, why didn't he have Kennedy killed during the 1960 election? If he was so power mad, why didn't he kill Walter Cronkite before Cronkite killed his prospects for reelection?

These conspiracy BS theories are just that --- all BS.

One man killed JFK. That was a crazy little Commie loser named Lee Harvey Oswald. Just like a crazy loser named Hinkley almost killed Reagan with the cameras rolling all in full sight. And before that, a couple of other crazies tried to kill Ford out on San Fransisco.

Crazies do crazy things. Sane people can't understand their motives.

There was no conspiracy. Not sexy. No money to be made from that fact. But it is a fact none the less.

46 posted on 11/05/2013 5:46:52 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Pontiac
delving into the world of assassination research

Isn't capitalism great?

47 posted on 11/05/2013 5:47:17 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
There was a thread the other day about this. I have thought that LBJ was behind Kennedy's assignation ever since I read the 3 volume biography of LBJ written by Robert Caro. LBJ was a driven man, he HAD to be president! This was the only way he could get there.

JFK was in Houston before he went to Dallas. My husband had a premonition when he was in Houston that someone was going to kill JFK. He was very anxious for him to get out of Houston before it happened. He would have preferred that he got out of Texas too. My husband doesn't have many premonitions but he was right on target with this one.

48 posted on 11/05/2013 5:47:19 PM PST by Ditter
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To: CASchack

This book gets down to Texas power brokers and their front man Lyndon Baines Johnson. A must read “Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K.”.


49 posted on 11/05/2013 5:47:32 PM PST by Broker (Obama the devils tird)
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To: sagar

Especially since LBJ was responsible for Lithuania bombing Pearl Harbor. He never got over that.


50 posted on 11/05/2013 5:50:45 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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