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Welcome to the United Police States of America
The Blaze ^ | 11/05/2013 | John W. Whitehead

Posted on 11/06/2013 9:26:30 AM PST by Rusty0604

No longer is it unusual to hear about incidents in which police shoot unarmed individuals first and ask questions later. What is unusual is our lack of outrage, the relative disinterest of our elected representatives, the media’s abysmal failure to ask questions and demand answers, and our growing acceptance of the status quo in the United Police States of America—a status quo in which “we the people” are powerless in the face of the heavy-handed tactics employed by the government and its armed agents.

We have been silent about too many things for too long, not the least of which is the deadly tendency on the part of police to resort to lethal force. However, as Martin Luther King Jr. reminded us, “There comes a time when silence is betrayal.”

Consider what happened in Cleveland, when two police officers mistook the sounds of a backfiring car for gunfire and immediately began pursuing the 1979 Chevrolet Malibu and its two occupants, a woman driver and a man in the passenger seat. Within 20 minutes, more than 60 police cars, some unmarked, and 115 officers had joined the pursuit, which ended in a full blown-out firefight in a middle school parking lot that saw 140 bullets fired in less than 30 seconds. Once the smoke cleared, it quickly became evident that not only had the officers been mistakenly firing at each other but the “suspects”—dead from countless bullet wounds—were unarmed.

If ever there were a time to de-militarize and de-weaponize local police forces, it’s now. The same goes for scaling back on the mindset adopted by cops that they are the law and should be revered, feared and obeyed. As for the idea that citizens must be compliant or risk being treated like lawbreakers, that’s nothing more than authoritarianism with a badge.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: police; policestate

1 posted on 11/06/2013 9:26:30 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

You want to demilitarize the police? End the WOD.


2 posted on 11/06/2013 9:39:30 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Rusty0604
No longer is it unusual to hear about incidents in which police shoot unarmed individuals first and ask questions later. What is unusual is our lack of outrage, the relative disinterest of our elected representatives, the media’s abysmal failure to ask questions and demand answers, and our growing acceptance of the status quo in the United Police States of America—a status quo in which “we the people” are powerless in the face of the heavy-handed tactics employed by the government and its armed agents.

We have been silent about too many things for too long, not the least of which is the deadly tendency on the part of police to resort to lethal force. However, as Martin Luther King Jr. reminded us, “There comes a time when silence is betrayal.”

John Whitehead PING

3 posted on 11/06/2013 9:40:27 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Rusty0604
"To protect and serve" the community the department.

THIS is the crux of the problem! A perfect storm of fear of lawsuits causing police departments to be hostile against their communities and OVERPROTECTIVE OF THEMSELVES, PLUS our gubmint helping to militarize them, has created an adversarial animal that can no longer be trusted.

The labor unions have hijacked the mindsets of cops to be arrogant and selfish bullies. They've done the same thing to teachers!

4 posted on 11/06/2013 9:44:22 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

and keep criminals in jail.


5 posted on 11/06/2013 9:44:40 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Rusty0604

When did the line between SWAT teams and normal cops get blurred? Post 9/11 for sure. Earlier? I’m kind of fascinated by this and want to learn a bit more of the history. I noticed that cops were replacing the Remingtons and Mossbergs in their cruisers with AR15s (even campus police at WSU in Detroit)more so in recent years, something I didn’t see when I was growing up.


6 posted on 11/06/2013 9:45:19 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: Rusty0604
One giant entity all merged into 'Big Brother'. Disgusting!

"Office of Investigations"

"Special Response Team"

"Homeland Security"

"Immigration and Customs Enforcement"

"Police"

"Rescue"

7 posted on 11/06/2013 9:50:16 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Rusty0604

Yes, we need to end the police state. The criminal prosecution for traffic violations is beyond acceptable. If you have outstanding traffic tickets, they should not be able to arrest you and throw you in with the rest of the criminals in the jail. Simply deny registration for your vehicle, or license renewal, etc. If you do not pay and get caught driving, then vehicle confiscation. This BS of making money off of throwing people in jail for traffic violations is BS. Drugs or drinking and driving? that’s different. Stop making the US a police state.


8 posted on 11/06/2013 9:56:39 AM PST by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Having worked with a labor union that represented public employees, I agree with you and want to add that most people don’t know the half of it.


9 posted on 11/06/2013 9:57:02 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: 9422WMR

And in some jails, the traffic offender is stripped searched.

A North Texas woman was handcuffed, stripped down and booked into jail – all because of an overdue traffic ticket.

It was just a ticket. Sarah Boaz was cited in August after an officer said she ran a stop sign.

Boaz lost the ticket, but said she knows it was wrong not to have paid it right away. Despite those missteps, she also says she never expected a late fee or penalty to land her in jail.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/10/24/woman-endures-strip-search-jail-time-for-overdue-ticket/


10 posted on 11/06/2013 9:59:58 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
MRAP image


11 posted on 11/06/2013 10:01:09 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Rusty0604
Yet as William Norman Grigg, a commentator for LewRockwell.com, points out, such a “preoccupation with ‘officer safety’ … leads to unnecessary police shootings. A peace officer is paid to assume certain risks, including those necessary to de-escalate a confrontation with someone believed to be a heavily armed suspect in a residential neighborhood.”

Weird, sounds like what I've been saying for years.

It's all about "getting home safely". Which means, of course, that the risk is now borne by free citizens, and not LEOs.
12 posted on 11/06/2013 10:04:00 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
The labor unions have hijacked the mindsets of cops to be arrogant and selfish bullies.

Then it's time for the plaintifs lawyers to sue the Police Unions for the outlandish behavior of their members.

Look, why sue the city of Cleveland when it's the uLEO who can't police their own?

Hit THEM in the pocket book by suing the union pension plans, not the tax-paying citizens and perhaps we'll see a lot less of these outrageous murders of innocent citizens.

13 posted on 11/06/2013 10:14:14 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Rusty0604

http://www.theonion.com/articles/breaking-authorities-currently-racing-down-highway,34462/


14 posted on 11/06/2013 10:22:57 AM PST by TomServo
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To: Rusty0604

It occurred to me recently that cops might be receiving too much, or too much of the wrong kind of training today, training shapes guys and pumps them up, teaches them to come to see themselves as elite soldiers operating in a hostile world, surrounded by unpredictable, but deadly people and adversaries, while they can only trust and depend on their own, on their fellow uniforms.

Combat oriented training, always concentrating on attack and fight and tactical defense, and then giving them weapons that resemble what soldiers use, can create a culture of “enforcer”, of “a survivor”, rather than that of a kind but firm, fatherly, beat cop.

Soldiers that serve in elite units sometimes have to be brought down to earth with reminders to get their feet back on the ground and lay off the ego, macho stuff, because the high speed training can make one start feeling like a superman, as “special”, and soldiers aren’t patrolling your kids hamburger joint and stopping you on the way to Walmart like the local union cop is.


15 posted on 11/06/2013 10:53:09 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Antihero101607

Shotguns have been replaced with rifles because of the increasing incidents of rifles being used in shooting incidents. They allow police to engage a person more accurately from greater distance. A shotgun and pistol are simply closer quarter tools. Also, with tap rounds, the penetration is lowered thus lowering injuries from stray rounds. Because of instances of active shooters are increasing, there is no time to wait for SWAT to assemble and respond...hence the individual officer IS the SWAT response...


16 posted on 11/06/2013 12:01:58 PM PST by bike800
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

This will not stop until these nazi bastards are hanging from lampposts all aroung their headquarters.

You want to stop this cr4p? Mandate that all “Law Enforcement Officers” from Police Chief to Sheriff to the lowliest meter maid must wear a pepto bismol pink uniform. No more black ninja suits, ever. Revolvers and Monadnock PR-24 batons only. No uber-cool assault rifles allowed. Finally, all police vehicles must have the department clearly identified on all sides of the vehicle. No more stealth cars.


17 posted on 11/06/2013 12:33:27 PM PST by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
End the WOD.

I am an old guy. I went to a big high school and graduated in the mid 1950's. There were 945 in my graduating class. Not one word about drugs or drug use was heard while I was there. No onbe even said, I"I wish there was pot or heroin available. The punks (including the damned musicians and hollywood types)of the 60's popularized drug usage and today even elementry school kids are using.

I hate the manta of end the WOD. Those of you who allowed yourselves to follow those punks who popularized drug usage deserve the WOD.

18 posted on 11/06/2013 12:43:33 PM PST by saminfl
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To: Blood of Tyrants
End the WOD.

Careful, you'll have the progressives foaming at the mouth.

19 posted on 11/06/2013 1:39:42 PM PST by SwankyC (Democrats and Republicans agree, govt coercion is OK if it fits your idea of whats OK)
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To: Rusty0604

waiting for the social(ist) conservatives to support this in..

3...2...1


20 posted on 11/06/2013 3:01:26 PM PST by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: saminfl; bamahead

I don’t believe in drug use especially when people commit crimes to obtain them. But I don’t think that smoking something deemed illegal or having in your possession a small amount of something deemed illegal is grounds for SWAT teams busting down doors and killing people (and dogs). What happened to “an eye for an eye”?


21 posted on 11/06/2013 3:09:30 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
I think of all the innocent lives lost or ruined because people decided they could listen to the punks in the 60's and do drugs. I remember when Mary Tyler Moore, who had a really popular TV show at the time, encouraged pot use by saying it was just the same thing as a couple of martinis. I never watched her show again.

I also figure that the number of people you describe are a very tiny number. How many stupid kids OD'd? How many people have the cartels murdered? How many are in prison for having an amount the authorities considered dealing?

The punks from the 60's completely changed our culture, making illegal drugs desirable, shunning marriage, denouncing our founders, becoming promiscuous, rejecting our standard morals. I amazes me that conservatives do not despise these people. I believe they were useful idiots led by marxists.

22 posted on 11/06/2013 3:33:04 PM PST by saminfl
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To: saminfl

I used to have a friend that was an undercover narc for the DPS. They went after the big drug dealers and movers, and it wasn’t until they had enough legal proof that they moved in on them. I believe that was the correct course.


23 posted on 11/06/2013 3:38:16 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: saminfl
they were useful idiots led by marxists.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I agree. Three things come to mind:

1) Bill Ayers was mentored by communists of my father's generation ( born 1913). Without plenty of support and help of Marxists in academia he would have never risen to the levels of influence he now has.

2) The government K-12 schools of the 60s generation had been highly consolidated. Very few of the 60s generation attended one room schools directed by the parents. They attended school **factories**. These schools were ( and are ) the very definition of a single-payer, compulsory-use, socialist entitlement. What little remained of the Protestant Christian worldview was reduced to a mere nod to God in the morning. It was strictly godless secularism for the remainder of the day. By 1964 God was gone.

Children who attend socialist-entitlement schools risk learning to be comfortable with socialism.

Children in godlessly secular classrooms **WILL** learn to think and reason godlessly . They must just to cooperate in the godless classroom.

3) I attended a Catholic University in the early 70s. It was non-stop Marxist Liberation Theology. My professors were of my **father's** generation!

So? Question:

Who should be blame for the above? The children of the 50s and 60s? No! We should blame their parents for not being more aware and more involved,...and...more assertive in removing their children from evil.

24 posted on 11/06/2013 3:45:25 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Absolutely. I stand with the Libertarians on that one!

By the way, I am a lower case “l” libertarian.


25 posted on 11/06/2013 3:47:59 PM PST by wintertime
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To: saminfl

Don’t pretend that drug use started in the 60s. The WOD started in about 1914 when Democrats claimed that black men were doing cocaine and raping white women. All in order to fill the southern prison plantations with free prisoner/slave labor.


26 posted on 11/06/2013 4:24:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

>> You want to demilitarize the police? End the WOD.

The statists won’t allow it.


27 posted on 11/06/2013 4:28:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: saminfl

>> Those of you who allowed yourselves to follow those punks who popularized drug usage deserve the WOD.

You must be talking about R&R...


28 posted on 11/06/2013 4:30:05 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: saminfl

>> The punks from the 60’s completely changed our culture, making illegal drugs desirable, shunning marriage, denouncing our founders, becoming promiscuous, rejecting our standard morals

I think that was a consequence of WWII, and parents being lenient on the spawn that bequeathed us all with the blessings (cough) of the sixties.


29 posted on 11/06/2013 4:33:26 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

It amazes me that the number of people who claim to love liberty and who cannot even entertain the idea of ending the WOD.


30 posted on 11/06/2013 4:39:47 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Gene Eric

It amazes me that the number of people who claim to love liberty yet cannot even entertain the idea of ending the WOD.


31 posted on 11/06/2013 4:40:15 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Rusty0604

The Rutherford Institute and ACLU are similar. What both organizations fail to acknowledge is that they are partially responsible for the alleged police state. The illegals, criminal element from south of the border and gangbangers are almost a protected class.


32 posted on 11/06/2013 4:46:36 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

There’s quite a bit of statism among so-called “conservatives”. They don’t mind statism as long as it’s done their way.


33 posted on 11/06/2013 4:46:45 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Cite please.


34 posted on 11/06/2013 4:57:38 PM PST by saminfl
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To: saminfl

Look up the history of the Harrison Tax Act.


35 posted on 11/06/2013 6:31:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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