Skip to comments.Vanity: Looking for a good all purpose hunting rifle for Christmas
Posted on 11/06/2013 12:31:49 PM PST by bigtoona
I know this will get a lot of replies but go for it. I just want to get some opinions on the different rifles out there to help me decide.
I grew up in PA until I was 11 so I never got to actually hunt with my brother and dad so I'm not super educated about all of the rifles out there.
I have pistols, shotguns and a couple of .22 rifles but now I would like to get a decent rifle for deer in case I get an opportunity to go hunting with a friend. Nothing too fancy or massively powerful, just good quality and dependable. Thanks all!
Any decent quality bolt action in .308 would be fine.
And, I love the curve in the forend:
Everyone will have their favorites. Most are excellent.
What kind of game? Whitetail deer I’m guessing?
Hard to go wrong with a lever action 30-30. Or as first reply stated .308 bolt gun from Ruger/Savage for cheaper or Remington/Winchester for more.
It would help to say what area, type of terrain.
For example, in Ohio, it is not legal to hunt deer with a rifle.
Any quality .308 (or 7.62 x 51, if you prefer).
Lately I’ve hunted with a FN FNAR, which is technically a 20 round sniper rifle -— basically a hunting rifle converted for military use.
I like it because of its mixed ability to both hunt and snipe, if need be.
Points to consider:
You’ll be hiking with it - consider the weight, though a heavier rifle magnifies your mistakes less...
You’ll only get one shot at a time...
Savage has the best rifles for an affordable price IMO. Their accutrigger is very nice.
2 Rifles and 1 Shot Gun that you should obtain:
1. A Good Quality 30-06(Savage, Winchester, Remington etc)
2. A Good Quality .22 Long Rifle(Ruger® 10/22)
3. A Good Quality Pump Shot Gun 12 Guage(Mossburg 500, Remington Wingmaster)
Hard to go wrong with a Winchester Model 94 30-30. Light weight and packs a very good punch, but I suppose it depends on where you live and what you’re hunting.
I don’t know much about rifles but I’m inheriting a 30/30 and was wondering how that compared to a .308. I have an AR 15 lower receiver coming and can’t wait to build something with it. While I’ve never shot an AR, how does that compare to a 30/30 in stopping power?
H&r handi rifle in .357 Magnum. An excellent rifle.
Ruger M77 or Win Model 70 in .243, .257 Roberts, .25-06, .270, .308, .30-06. All these calibers are sufficient for any small to medium size North American game and ammo is abundant.
SKS carbine. About 300 bucks. Shoots Russian 7.62. Rugged design and can be used as an effective self defense weapon.
What are you planning on stopping?
Put a set of peep sights on that 30-30 and use it.
If you want quality go with Henry rifles they are the finest guns I have ever shot.
It all depends on the size and variety of Christmas you are hunting.
The .30-.30 is less potent than a .308 but not by much. The benefit comes in the flatter trajectory. The .30-.30 has more drop down range.
Comparison of 5.56 and .308 ballistics:
Cartridge Model Cartridge size Cartridge weight Bullet weight Velocity Energy
5.56mm NATO M855 5.56×45mm 12.31 g (190 gr) 4.02 g (62 gr) 945.5 m/s (3,100 ft/s) 1,797 J
7.62mm NATO M80 7.62×51mm 25.40 g (392 gr) 9.33 g (147 gr) 838.0 m/s (2,749 ft/s) 3,275 J
Remington, Winchester or Savage in .308, 30-06 or .270. Can’t go wrong
In answer to the original question, it’s hard to go to far wrong with a Savage in .308
“Im inheriting a 30/30 and was wondering how that compared to a .308”
A 30/30 is less powerfull than a .308. Roughly the same bullet, fired at a lower velocity.
“While Ive never shot an AR, how does that compare to a 30/30 in stopping power?”
An AR can be built in a lot of calibers. .300 AAC is roughly equivalent to 30/30 in stopping power
If you have a range that rents firearms in your area, take an afternoon and go shoot. You need a firearm that fits you, not one based on various posts here.
For example, instead of a .223, I would recommend a .308 or .300 Blackout. More stopping power. An AR has a synthetic stock making the rifle much lighter. The stock bolt-action 30-06 kicks like a mule as there is no gas recovery system to absorb the recoil.
However, the main point is how the rifle fits you. Do you feel at ease with it? Can you hit your target with it without having problems holding the rifle for the extended period waiting for your target to clear some brush? Availability of ammo, ability to add scopes, etc, all are individual items.
Now, if you have money to burn, there’s a company in Austin that sells a rifle with electronic sighting system that analyzes air pressure, wind, humidity, etc, and will automatically track a target at up to 10 mph. It is a click and shoot, and is 100% accurate to 850 yards. However, starting price is $22,500 and there’s a 3 month wait.
So, go shoot and have fun making your decision.
I’m thinking of stopping anything as far away as possible. I don’t know the range of a 30/30 nor an AR.
Don't dismiss or neglect Ruger.
I used to own both, before that terrible boating accident...
What are you planning to stop?
Cartridge Bullet weight Velocity (muzzle) Energy (muzzle)
5.56 62 gr 3,100 fps 1,797 J
.308 147 gr 2,749 fps 3,275 J
if in woods shots under 100 yards a good 44 mag in a lever or automatic is great light short and deadly
if you want a bit more a 45-70 in a lever or single shot again light and not bad recoil with a 325 grain hornady leverevolution round I have never had one go over 15 feet its like hitting them with a bowling ball
Thanks. The 30/30 rifle is missing a magazine so I’d like to find one and try it out. All my dads guns were made in 1950 to 1965 and some I’m told not to shoot but sell to a collector, so I may do that as long as I can get something better.
Remington 870 shotgun
Thank you! I need to stare at that for awhile and soak it in.
OK, how far is possible FOR YOU to shoot a 2.5" group?
My AR-15 and my Marlin 336 both shoot farther than I can consistently hit. YMMV.
Thank you. I heard ARs can be widely configured but I did not know that included caliber as well. Very interesting.
What are you planning to stop?
Anything, and the further away the better.
I have been looking at the Henry rifles too, they are nice
FWIW, I'm also inheriting a .44 magnum. The rounds look like it will really kick! I love my .357 but that .44 looks like it might hurt.
That would be my choice as well. A rack-grade Win70 in ‘06.
Second choice, rack-grade Win70 in .270 Winchester, especially if one is in the western US.
Simple, easily supported recommendations.
I’d also stick with either a 4X or 6X fixed power scope.
You will shoot your eye out.
I'll second that. And 30.06 is cheap and versatile.
Youll shoot your eye out, kid.
Tough, open-ended inquiry. Been hunting and been in guns my whole life. Any decent caliber fron .243 to .338 winchester will be fine (depending on your sensitivity to recoil.) For entry level accurate bolt actions I like Ruger american, Stevens 200, Marlin xl7, weatherby vanguard, Remington 780. For a step up consider a Remington 700, Ruger 77, Tikka, Browning, or winchester 70. More important than the gun is the scope. I personally prefer Leupold VXII in 3x9. You really can’t go wrong with the rich selection of bolt action guns and calibers available. If ammo availability is an option go with .243, .270, 7mm mag, 30-06. .308
Versatile yes, but cheap? Compared to what?
“good looking rifle..smooth firing? ;-) “
Absurdly so. .1 inch travel, 4lb pull Very consistent.
Sub 1 MOA
I gunsmith for a living. Really don’t have a dog in this hunt. I do have long experience in their mechanical operations and an intimate understanding of their propensity towards malfunction.
My experiences have prompted me, when asked, to recommend the Remington 700. Hands down the most dependable. Without a doubt has the most after market upgrade and conversion parts. Support from the company is 2nd to none.
Cartridge suggestions: .243, .308, .270 or .30-06.
A few suggestions about deer hunting.
Like with driving, it’s not just in your ability to drive, but to drive “defensively”, to avoid the bad drivers. The good, serious hunters offset their hunting season and territory from the official and popular one, to avoid problems created by the surfeit of novice and occasional hunters.
This doesn’t mean just avoiding their shooting at you. It also means not having your game scared away by their noise and movement, not having to rescue them from minor and serious injuries (from blisters on up), and accidents. And not having to mess around as much with LEOs keeping a watch over it all, looking for licenses and poachers.
Importantly, if you’re using a map, know what brown lines mean, especially when a bunch of them are clustered together in approximate parallel lines. Use a knotted rope to know just about how far it’s going to be to get that deer carcass back to your vehicle.
If you really want to reach out go with one of the ultramags. If you want common ammo go 308.
Savage .243 bolt action.
Don’t hunt Christians! What’s wrong with you?
oh yeh. . oops! Don’t forget Savage 110. Probably the most accurate off the shelf modest priced bolt ever made!