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America vs Europe - things that amazed me.

Posted on 11/18/2013 7:14:50 AM PST by A'elian' nation

Recently there was an interesting article about what foreigners thought of American culture - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3090848/posts

Just thought I’d share my observations of times I lived in Europe. Here's a scattering of what I discovered.

All payments are electronic. Your salary, your bills, your insurance, your rent or mortgage, etc. You constantly have to check online to see where you are financially.

Hospitals are stark and bare. No beautification or art work. But hospital rooms have windows you can open and patients can buy beer in the cafeteria.

Electrical bills are paid in advance. You are billed for electrical usage that the electric company assumes you will be using for a half year at a time. If at the end of the six months you use less or more - compensation is then made.

Breakfast is not a big deal in Europe. McDonald’s doesn’t even open until 8 or 9 am.

Going to the bank is like going to the morgue. Deathly quiet. There is no friendly banter among clerks or clientele. Not like down here in the South anyways.

Shopping in stores is almost equally reserved. You are hardly ever approached with “Can I Help You” which I kind of liked.

Stores are only allowed to have SALES twice a year - usually late summer and then again after Christmas. All stores are required to have their sales on the same days so as not to give marketing advantages. Except for the middle Eastern tobacco shops and 7-11 type stores, the major merchants must close at the same hour.

Dogs and cats are allowed Everywhere - stores, banks, restaurants. Was always constantly amazed at how well behaved the dogs were even in the presence of other dogs.

A liter of gas costs almost what a gallon of gas costs here. Then again European cars get much better on gas mileage. I liked the Smart cars for city driving. It always amused me how many cars could parallel park on a street due to their small size. Polizei cars were also ridiculously small.

Oh man, the bread and the beer. Why can’t Americans make good bread or beer? I could just about live on Olijven brot ( olive bread ). And the delicate confections at the konditoreis ( bakeries ) make our typical donut shops pathetic. A konditorei shop window is a true work of art. Marzipan anyone?

The chocolate. Need I say more

Walmart type stores are only found in the burbs. In the city there just isn’t a store that has everything. You have to go to different stores to get things like paper clips and clothespins. Then again, all the small mom and pop food and craft shops were fascinating, and you could see the pride in their work. I loved the little Giuseppi-like toy store with hand crafted toys. Kids use their imaginations more; not so much emphasis on electronic toys.

Bakeries that open at 5am in the morning. You can get warm REAL bread. It was quaint to see the lines of people waiting to get into some of the better bakeries so early in the morning.

Eggs and milk are generally not refrigerated, although you can get them in the refrigerated section.

The farmers’ markets on weekends are awesome. This is where you to go to stock up on food for the week.

The doggie shops where you take your dog to do his doo doo business amused me. Unfortunately, not that many go there for that purpose.

The cobblestone streets. How cities do not get sued by little old ladies trying to navigate the uneven stones mystifies me.

The TV commercials and advertisements are so much more sophisticated than typical bludgeon hammer American commercials that insult your intelligence. Sexier too. Commercials are usually shown only at the beginning or end of a program.

The cafes. You can drink coffee and read your book all day. No free refills though. Restaurant prices are much more expensive than in America, but grocery items are considerably cheaper. Free wine samples in aisle 9 are often available.

* You won’t find items on grocery shelves with price tags in the better stores. All items are electronically priced and displayed.

They just don’t understand Americans. They see us as some alien wild west culture. They do not understand our distrust of government. They expect government to protect them. We expect to be protected from government.

Churches are more like museums than places of worship. Such beautiful cathedrals with magnificent sounding pipe organs, and so unattended. Churches get state support.

Transportation is never a problem. The trains are clean and efficient with cathedral-like train stations. Bikes are everywhere. Pedestrians beware.

Don’t try to take pictures of shops with a merchant or customer in the picture. It’s an invasion of privacy. I have some pictures where middle fingers are prominent.

The carnivals and fairs are a feast for the eyes and palate. The winter Christkindlemarkts are a delight of the senses. I miss the giant thinly rolled up pannenkoeken - pancakes.

The giant marionettes of Royal de Luxe. If you haven’t heard of them, head to You Tube right away. This Nantes based street theater company takes over whole towns and mesmerizes them for a week at a time.

Europe has Legoland and the Alps. Sigh.

Europe has roundabouts. That almost cancels the above Sigh.

Be prepared to recycle - paper, glass, plastic, etc. Even colored and clear glass.

Universities do not have team sports. Soccer is the international mania. The nationalistic fervor during the Weltmanschaft is stirring. You really get swept up in it. A nation’s loss is palpable. A win is utter frenzy.

The European Parliament in Brussels has to be the most undemocratic institution on earth. It is a Regulator’s Heaven.

Take a GPS to Europe. Road signs are few and far between. And no billboards - just giant bird killing windmills.

Holland’s favorite Christmas tradition is St. Nikolaus and the Zwarte Piet ( black elves). I’m sure that would go over real well here.

You just don’t see that many fat people in Europe - at least in northern Europe. They just eat smarter.


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1 posted on 11/18/2013 7:14:50 AM PST by A'elian' nation
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To: A'elian' nation

Things like an appreciation for a full breakfast and school sports we get from the Brits. (Roundabouts aka rotaries, too, in some parts of the U.S.)


2 posted on 11/18/2013 7:23:22 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Roundabouts are big fun.
Indy suburbs are adding them in a lot of intersections.

Especially in a Miata, LOL.


3 posted on 11/18/2013 7:26:40 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone you see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: A'elian' nation
Bikes are everywhere. Pedestrians beware.

Especially Amsterdam. We saw a bike park there, literally thousands of bikes, one wonders how somebody can make out which bike is theirs.

4 posted on 11/18/2013 7:27:37 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: A'elian' nation

Yeh its called socialism. :-)


5 posted on 11/18/2013 7:28:12 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: A'elian' nation

When my daughter was in the hospital I would have killed to be able to crack open a window.


6 posted on 11/18/2013 7:30:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 9YearLurker

They just don’t understand Americans.


They understand us just fine when they need our money or men to die by the thousands to fix their own damned problems.


7 posted on 11/18/2013 7:32:57 AM PST by warsaw44
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To: A'elian' nation
The TV commercials and advertisements are so much more sophisticated than typical bludgeon hammer American commercials that insult your intelligence. Sexier too. Commercials are usually shown only at the beginning or end of a program.

We're sex saturated enough...I have no desire to have sexy eiropean TV commercials playing in my home. Thanks just the same.

8 posted on 11/18/2013 7:34:24 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: A'elian' nation

A healthy skepticism of government would have saved the Germans a fair amount of grief. Perhaps they should consider that.


9 posted on 11/18/2013 7:35:21 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: A'elian' nation

bfl


10 posted on 11/18/2013 7:38:55 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Obama is a proven liar, an admitted liar, an unrepentent liar.)
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To: A'elian' nation

America was founded on a wise biblical teaching: “Put not your faith in princes, in whom there is no help.” Psalm 146:3. We would be far better off today had America stuck to that verity.


11 posted on 11/18/2013 7:46:00 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: A'elian' nation

One other thing I noticed, hotel rooms have thermostats, but they never seem to work.


12 posted on 11/18/2013 7:49:18 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: A'elian' nation

Modern feudalism isn’t awful. That’s why people support socialism, it’s only awful compared to our society.

The two things that made the biggest impression on me were the lack of growth-what was at a place had been at that place for likely hundreds of years.

And they use human waste in their fertilizer and you can tell.


13 posted on 11/18/2013 7:49:36 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: A'elian' nation

You like Europe? Stay there.


14 posted on 11/18/2013 7:52:35 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Georgia Girl 2

At least they’re getting a better bang for their bucks... We’ve devolved into a quasi social state, but with none of the perks.

The vast amount of stimulus was spent on “shite” projects that didn’t improve infrastructure instead going to Union boss payoffs and contractors.

The most impressive thing that Germany does... is build roads really well. Particularly repaving jobs... they’re done to last decades upon decades.


15 posted on 11/18/2013 7:53:00 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: nascarnation

We have ONE in our fair city.....I call it the ‘circle of death’


16 posted on 11/18/2013 7:54:01 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: txrefugee

The writer lives in a dream world. Face reality...Europe is like a dirty Disneyland. Living there only works if you have lots of money and time to waste. Then there’s the muzzies and the commies. How many times has America bailed out their butts with our men’s lives and our treasury? Ingrates. I have some relatives that are unrepentant LIB moonbats...they love Europe, visit months at a time and praise it to high-Heaven. By the way, they are big time socialist sloths and losers.


17 posted on 11/18/2013 7:55:31 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: A'elian' nation

They live their lives for pleasure. Dinners take hours and everything is social.

They have beauty in everything, every little doorknob, window latch, everything has a delightful element of design.

You walk through history, usually starting through Roman times to the modern day.

The butter, cheese, bread and yogurt is unbelievably delicious and the food is PURE.

The street signs are up high on the corners of the buildings and very easy to find.

They all dress better and appreciate fashion, not to mention the men’s shoes.

I live part of my year in Europe and just returned. I notice the differences immensely. I could go on and on of my love of Europe. The politics stink, but most think Obama is a scourge on the planet, unlike in 2008 when he was a God that come from heaven to save us all.


18 posted on 11/18/2013 7:56:44 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.)
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To: txrefugee

Thanks, new tagline.


19 posted on 11/18/2013 7:57:04 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ( “Put not your faith in princes, in whom there is no help.” - Psalm 146:3.)
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To: Guenevere; nascarnation

Roundabout scene in “National Lampoon’s European Vacation”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgX6qlJEMc


20 posted on 11/18/2013 7:58:11 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Katya

“The most impressive thing that Germany does... is build roads really well. Particularly repaving jobs... they’re done to last decades upon decades”

I’ll give them that. And cars and their bathrooms in residences have industrial strength fixtures which is awesome. I’ve been there a few times and my personal view is other than engineering and you can take your dog to a restaurant Germany sucks. After 3 trips I can see how the Nazi’s got started. Sorry its true.


21 posted on 11/18/2013 8:00:43 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Europe would be a heck of a lot better without all of the Muslims.


22 posted on 11/18/2013 8:01:26 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: A'elian' nation
Thanks ‘A’...ever get stuck in a multi lane roundabout?....yikes, no wonder they drive like crazy people....I've been told by someone I trust that tourists are gouged, price wise at every opportunity, 1. because they don't know what thing cost 2.and because they are assumed to be rich and can afford it....maybe different now...
23 posted on 11/18/2013 8:13:22 AM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: dfwgator
Europe would be a heck of a lot better without all of the Muslims.

This is very true, or the pickpockets and the Romas.

On my flight back to the US last week, Air France changed my seat at the last minute. When I looked over to my previously assigned seat they had put up a curtain that blocked the last 4 rows. They sat 8 fully Bukhara women in the seats, BEHIND THE CURTAIN!

My advice for everyone in Europe, no matter the city.....Dress like a local, walk with purpose, don't talk to anyone who has a clipboard and asks if you speak English, and when you see a Felafel sign, walk the other way.

24 posted on 11/18/2013 8:13:30 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.)
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To: virgil283
.I've been told by someone I trust that tourists are gouged, price wise at every opportunity

No different than New York City.

25 posted on 11/18/2013 8:15:00 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Guenevere

“We have ONE in our fair city.....I call it the ‘circle of death’”

The correct term is: “The Circle of Evolution”, wherein all are tested and the unfit are crushed.

‘Specially Libtards in the likes of the Smart Car.

PS There are rumors that ‘Evolution’ bags some cyclists there, too.


26 posted on 11/18/2013 8:15:39 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Guenevere

They’re only really fun when there’s no traffic.

Luckily as a retiree I can avoid most times when they’re busy LOL.


27 posted on 11/18/2013 8:17:41 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone you see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I've spent a fair amount of time in Germany. I've met some very pleasant happy and outgoing German Volk, as they say "gemutlichkeit". That said I've met quite a few Germans who are the most humorless bastards in existence. Like vulcans with a heavy accent. "Dour" doesn't even come close to describing some of them. I know Germans and German culture knows how to laugh so I am at a loss to understand it. Of course I am mostly Irish so I tend to laugh at most things, even the parts of life I am told by others aren't supposed to be funny. Go figure.

CC

28 posted on 11/18/2013 8:22:08 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: A'elian' nation

If you love socialism so much, why don’t you stay there?


29 posted on 11/18/2013 8:27:29 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: A'elian' nation
Europe is a nice place to visit but wouldn't want to live there.

No ice cubes, everything served room temperature including milk and beer... yechh!

Not too many people have refrigerators at home so you are always shopping for food and standing in lines.

They have different power outlets over there so nothing you bring from U.S. plugs in unless you buy some special adapter plug.

And all those different languages. It's like every country has to have a different word for everything. Even in England, they have special words like bollocks, knackers, lorry and loo.

30 posted on 11/18/2013 8:41:14 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Celtic Conservative

“Of course I am mostly Irish so I tend to laugh at most things, even the parts of life I am told by others aren’t supposed to be funny.”

I am mostly all Irish and I also usually look at the humorous aspects of things. They are a bunch of Socialists in Ireland too even my in-laws in Dublin but at least they are cheerful about it. And the food and booze and music is great. :-)


31 posted on 11/18/2013 8:47:33 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: A'elian' nation

Good descriptions. Consistent with what I’ve seen their.

Ironically, they have their “Wild West Western” cousins to thank for all of their electronic payment of everything. Most of the non-”Wild West Western” world has had limited capability to make major leaps in technology. The integrated circuit, the microprocessor, the microcomputer/PC, and the Internet (with MAJOR contributions from the Brits and CERN) were invented in the U.S. (I remember talking with a Frenchman when the Internet was just sweeping the U.S., and he was lauding the limited Minitel government monopoly system then in place throughout France, with remarks that it did everything he could think of that could possibly be needed already, so what was the big deal about the Internet, France would never need it because they had Minitel, etc.)

Perhaps Europeans are simply content enough with their little Giuseppe shops, bread, beer, and chocolate. That and the fact that socialism has fundamentally paralyzed much of their innovation and advancement beyond the surface pleasures of life.


32 posted on 11/18/2013 8:56:54 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: A'elian' nation

“Oh man, the bread and the beer. Why can’t Americans make good bread or beer?”

I agree with most of your thoughts but disagree with the beer assessment.

I spent some time in Europe this summer, and was really disappointed by the beer selections. I feel that the US has a greater variety and is generally less expensive (I did really enjoy London Pride and Marzen though.).

Just my 2 cents ;-)


33 posted on 11/18/2013 8:59:15 AM PST by Toadman (To anger a Conservative, tell a lie. To anger a liberal, tell the truth.)
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To: A'elian' nation
Hospitals are stark and bare. No beautification or art work. But hospital rooms have windows you can open and patients can buy beer in the cafeteria.

Of course they're stark and bare. They're all under the influence (and purse strings) of a huge, nationalistic healthcare system. While water fountains and gardens are probably overkill, I find that a hospital with a little "cheerfulness" places patients in a much better state of mind for recovery. The functional windows and beer are "shiny objects," and certainly not for the patients.

Electrical bills are paid in advance. You are billed for electrical usage that the electric company assumes you will be using for a half year at a time. If at the end of the six months you use less or more - compensation is then made.

Sounds efficient. And, like an interest-free loan to the utility company.

Breakfast is not a big deal in Europe. McDonald’s doesn’t even open until 8 or 9 am.

I don't think breakfast is a "big deal" in the US, but having some kind of nutrition available before one heads off to work is important. Whether that's a bagel with cream cheese, a piece of fruit, or a coffee and sandwich from McDonald's or Starbucks, that's up to the consumer.

Going to the bank is like going to the morgue. Deathly quiet. There is no friendly banter among clerks or clientele. Not like down here in the South anyways.

How positively un-capitalistic.

Shopping in stores is almost equally reserved. You are hardly ever approached with “Can I Help You” which I kind of liked.

At most US department stores, you get more of that too. Clerks are too busy with other tasks, and shopping is more self-serve. At better stores in the US, you can still get some service, if you require.

Stores are only allowed to have SALES twice a year - usually late summer and then again after Christmas. All stores are required to have their sales on the same days so as not to give marketing advantages. Except for the middle Eastern tobacco shops and 7-11 type stores, the major merchants must close at the same hour.

God forbid a business should try to find a "marketing advantage." Again, speaks to their socialist' nature, and utter disdain for capitalism and prviate enterprise.

Dogs and cats are allowed Everywhere - stores, banks, restaurants. Was always constantly amazed at how well behaved the dogs were even in the presence of other dogs.

Sounds positively un-civilized.

A liter of gas costs almost what a gallon of gas costs here. Then again European cars get much better on gas mileage. I liked the Smart cars for city driving. It always amused me how many cars could parallel park on a street due to their small size. Polizei cars were also ridiculously small.

Transportation in Europe is not about freedom; i.e., the freedom to travel about and do as one wishes. Travel in Europe is getting from Point A to Point B. There is no pleasure in it, and if they don't have cars, they can always take the train, or other form of mass transport. While I wish we had more trains here in the US, if only as another travel option, I would not want to sacrifice my ability to drive.

Oh man, the bread and the beer. Why can’t Americans make good bread or beer? I could just about live on Olijven brot ( olive bread ). And the delicate confections at the konditoreis ( bakeries ) make our typical donut shops pathetic. A konditorei shop window is a true work of art. Marzipan anyone?

I think our bread and beer are perfectly fine. If we find something else outside the US, we'll import it. Geez. Of all the things to drone on about.

The chocolate. Need I say more

European chocolate, especially Belgian chocolate, is over-rated. Seriously. Again, if we find one we like, we'll import it. If not, we'll take our Hershey's and be done with it.

Walmart type stores are only found in the burbs. In the city there just isn’t a store that has everything. You have to go to different stores to get things like paper clips and clothespins. Then again, all the small mom and pop food and craft shops were fascinating, and you could see the pride in their work. I loved the little Giuseppi-like toy store with hand crafted toys. Kids use their imaginations more; not so much emphasis on electronic toys.

Lovely. And inefficient. Such a waste of time, as if people have nothing better to do than shop in ten different stores, as apposed to what they could buy in one.

Bakeries that open at 5am in the morning. You can get warm REAL bread. It was quaint to see the lines of people waiting to get into some of the better bakeries so early in the morning.

Ah yes, Europe is nothing without their innate desire to "queue up," and stand in another line.

Eggs and milk are generally not refrigerated, although you can get them in the refrigerated section.

Warm milk, and fermented eggs. Sounds yummy.

I could pick out more things. I spent a good deal, enough time in Europe, when I was in the service. As the dying cradle of Western Civilization, there are some good things there. I'm not trying to sound provincial, but I was always glad to get back to the US. I appreciate what we have just fine.

34 posted on 11/18/2013 9:00:24 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: A'elian' nation

Once America was discovered who came and who stayed in Europe?

Those with courage and ambition came to America; those who did not mind being a peasant and being lorded over remained...


35 posted on 11/18/2013 9:01:12 AM PST by thejokker
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To: Celtic Conservative

Your description is funny but accurate. I was in Germany one time, flicking through TV channels in the hotel, came across “Hogans Hero’s” (in German)....I figured some of them must have a sense of humor!


36 posted on 11/18/2013 9:01:24 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: A'elian' nation

Thanks for sharing. I love reading about different cultures, especially first hand experiences from Americans. I’m under the impression that many places in Europe have an abundance of cynical, snobby/stuffy types. Hence, the reserve. Always gravitated towards England, (Great Britian, UK, whatever the heck they call it now lol) probably because it’s where my ancestors lived.

Question: Who do you think is truly happier on the whole, them or us?


37 posted on 11/18/2013 9:07:31 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: A'elian' nation
*Not* speeding:


38 posted on 11/18/2013 10:50:35 AM PST by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: A'elian' nation

Lived in Cologne for over 3 years and all of this rings absolutely true. But just try to name your child “Moonbeam”.


39 posted on 11/18/2013 2:42:37 PM PST by oldsicilian
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Your post made me laugh out loud.

Yeah, big time.

Talk about groupthink. Massive, massive group think. Michael Lewis observed that they also have a think for the human anal track and that which comes from it.

Once he pointed it out, I saw and heard it everywhere.


40 posted on 11/18/2013 2:56:01 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: kelly4c

Question: Who do you think is truly happier on the whole, them or us?

That’s an easy one. Our freedom makes us happier. I don’t know how some people would think that I liked socialism. I love the history and charm of so many places in Europe. The castles, cathedrals, and craftmanship take you back to another time. Europeans do have a deeper sense of history than we do. And they have spilled more blood.

But I deplore the anti-democratic European Parliament, and its heavy handed regulations. Nor could I understand the restrictions on free enterprise in the name of fairness and equality which to them is more important than independence and competition.

I have a friend in Antwerp, and all he could do is complain about the heavy taxes; yet he says he could never live in the USA. He values his health care coverage there and feels our medical care is not available to all. I would say he is content but not happy. Half of his money goes to taxes and medical care leaving him little for personal purchases.

Simply put, we value freedom and the individual (as do I); they value cradle to grave security. And since our military protects Europe, they have the luxury of that social security blanket.


41 posted on 11/18/2013 5:09:03 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: oldsicilian

Cologne was great. Sure got bombed all to hell in the War.
Fortunately the Dom was spared. I was able to hear a concert in the Dom during All Saints Eve.

Cologne, Nurenberg, and Munich have the best Christkindlmarkts.


42 posted on 11/18/2013 5:14:46 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: pgkdan

Yes their society is more liberal when it comes to sexuality. But prostitution is regulated, and the women are tested for STD’s regularly.

I was mostly referring to a lighter more sophisticated appeal in their commercials. If you ever watch the occasional program on commercials around the world you’d get the picture.


43 posted on 11/18/2013 5:20:24 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: dfwgator

“hotel rooms have thermostats, but they never seem to work.”

I was also amazed that some cities like Rotterdam actually pipe hot water into homes and hotels.


44 posted on 11/18/2013 5:23:08 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: AlmaKing

“You like Europe? Stay there.”

Have you ever been to Europe? Have you ever tried to appreciate another culture? You are a good example of why they regard Americans as provincial.

I have no love for socialism. I just appreciate history, good food, and the people. My forbears came from Germany and Italy; most likely yours came from somewhere across the pond as well.


45 posted on 11/18/2013 5:30:42 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

You sound like a fag.


46 posted on 11/18/2013 5:33:57 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: hal ogen
Living there only works if you have lots of money and time to waste

Translation: as an ex-pat. It's great then.

47 posted on 11/18/2013 5:34:42 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: A'elian' nation

You are also a fag, particularly in your use of “across the pond.”


48 posted on 11/18/2013 5:35:38 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: hal ogen

Just because one happens to enjoy the enchantments of Europe does not make one a liberal. I am anything but, nor am I a dreamer. I fully realize that American might has allowed Europe to become a welfare state, but that doesn’t condemn its history or blind me to its art and charms.

By the way, Walt Disney got his inspiration for Disneyland from the Efteling theme park in the Netherlands. Mickey Mouse was stolen from there.


49 posted on 11/18/2013 5:37:21 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Thanks for your comments, and you are right on.
Nice to know you love and appreciate Europe and had a great time there. Where did you spend most of your time?

The Roman ruins were something else weren’t they?

And you obviously have a good eye for detail. “They have beauty in everything, every little doorknob, window latch, everything has a delightful element of design.”

I still miss getting up early to get fresh warm bread at the bakery.


50 posted on 11/18/2013 5:43:08 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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