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Egypt's Latest Fatwas from Salafis and Brotherhood
Gatestone Institute ^ | Nov 27, 2013 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 11/27/2013 5:16:58 PM PST by Kip Russell

When a women goes swimming, as the word for sea is masculine, when "the water touches the woman's private parts, she becomes an 'adulteress' and should be punished." — Summary of Al Ahzar Fatwa Committee, reported in Al Masry Al Youm

Meanwhile the Salafis -- who, in the light of the Bortherhood's ouster have become Islam's standard bearers there -- continue successfully to push for strict interpretations of Sharia law in Egypt's new constitution.

As the full ramification of the Muslim Brotherhood's year in power continues to be exposed, a new study by Al Azhar's Fatwa Committee dedicated to exploring the fatwas, or Islamic decrees, issued by the Brotherhood and Salafis -- the Islamists -- was recently published.

Al Azhar, in Cairo, is considered by many to be one of the oldest and most prestigious Islamic universities in the world. The study, written by Al Azhar's Dr. Sayed Zayed, and entitled (in translation), "The Misguided Fatwas of the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis," reveals a great deal about how Islamists view women.

The Egyptian newspaper Al Masry Al Youm summarized some of the Al Azhar study's main findings and assertions on November 15 in a article entitled (in translation), "Muslim Brotherhood fatwas: A woman swimming is an 'adulteress' and touching bananas is 'forbidden.'"

According to the report, "fatwas issued by both groups [Brotherhood and Salafis] regard women as strange creatures created solely for sex. They considered the voices of women, their looks and presence outside the walls of their homes an 'offence.' Some went as far as to consider women as a whole 'offensive.'"

The study addressed 51 fatwas issued during the rule of ousted president Mohamed Morsi. Among them, the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis "permitted wives to lie to their husbands concerning politics," if the husband forbids her from being supportive of the Islamists or their agenda; she may then, through taqiyya [dissimulation] -- a Muslim doctrine that permits deceit to empower Islam -- still be supportive of the Islamists while pretending to be against them.

The study similarly revealed that some of these fatwas decreed that women who swim in the sea are committing "adultery" -- even if they wear a hijab: "The reason behind this particular fatwa, from their point of view, is that the sea is masculine [as with many other languages, Arabic nouns are gender specific, and "sea" is masculine], and when the water touches the woman's private parts she becomes an 'adulteress' and should be punished."

Moreover, "Some of these fatwas also forbade women from eating certain vegetables or even touching cucumbers or bananas," due to their phallic imagery, which may tempt women to deviate.

Other fatwas decreed that "it is unacceptable for women to turn the air conditioning on at home during the absence of their husbands as this could be used as a sign to indicate to neighbors that the woman is at home alone and any of them could commit adultery with her."

One fatwa suggested that marriage to ten-year-old girls should be allowed to prevent girls "from deviating from the right path," while another prohibited girls from going to schools located 25 kilometers away from their homes.

Another stated that a marriage is annulled if the husband and wife copulate with no clothes on.

These fatwas also sanctioned the use of women and children as human shields in violent demonstrations and protests, as these are considered jihads to empower Islam.

Even slavery was permitted, according to the study: "the people who issued these fatwas demanded the enactment of a law allowing divorced women to own slaves," presumably to help her, as she no longer has a man to support her.


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: islam; sharia

1 posted on 11/27/2013 5:16:58 PM PST by Kip Russell
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To: Kip Russell

~~~When a women goes swimming, as the word for sea is masculine, when “the water touches the woman’s private parts, she becomes an ‘adulteress’ and should be punished.” — Summary of Al Ahzar Fatwa Committee, reported in Al Masry Al Youm ~~~

Well, at least they’re reasonable /sarcasm as if it needs be said


2 posted on 11/27/2013 5:21:22 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Kip Russell

3 posted on 11/27/2013 5:27:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: F15Eagle

Is there any word, any word at all, to describe these creatures’ thought processes?


4 posted on 11/27/2013 5:31:59 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Kip Russell
"When a women goes swimming, as the word for sea is masculine, when "the water touches the woman's private parts, she becomes an 'adulteress' and should be punished." — Summary of Al Ahzar Fatwa Committee, reported in Al Masry Al Youm"

This is an amazingly ignorant statement. I've heard SO MANY, MANY, MANY stupid, ignorant statements in my life (as I lived in Saudi Arabia for five years) but THIS truly, absolutely, unequivocally, tops the STUPID list.

5 posted on 11/27/2013 5:34:24 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Kip Russell
It's all about power, no, POW-AH!!! NOTHING else.
6 posted on 11/27/2013 5:35:44 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: MestaMachine
Is there any word, any word at all, to describe these creatures’ thought processes?

After living in the middle east for five years my husband said that "logic doesn't have a place in the middle east."

BOY, was he correct!

7 posted on 11/27/2013 5:37:11 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

when “the water touches the woman’s private parts, she becomes an ‘adulteress’ and should be punished.”

I guess that goes for baths too. After wearing those Burkas in the heat I would think the stench should keep most adultery down.


8 posted on 11/27/2013 5:37:34 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: cloudmountain
It's all about power, no, POW-AH!!! NOTHING else.

When in doubt, quote Heinlein:

“Political tags — such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth — are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.”

Fatwah-issuing Muslims make very poor neighbors...

9 posted on 11/27/2013 5:39:20 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell
Fatwah-issuing Muslims make very poor neighbors...

No sh..!! We lived in the middle east five years, got what wanted, did what we wanted but...at one point we did say: TIME TO GET OUTTA DODGE! And we did. Makes America look even better.

I DO know of worse neighbors. But, I don't want to sound...racist.

10 posted on 11/27/2013 5:43:13 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: MestaMachine; Salamander; Slings and Arrows; 50mm; TheOldLady; humblegunner; Eaker; JoeProBono; ...
"When a women goes swimming, as the word for sea is masculine, when "the water touches the woman's private parts, she becomes an 'adulteress' and should be punished.""

Let's extend this logic just a bit further, shall we?

When a man goes swimming, as the word for sea is masculine, when the water touches a man's private parts, he becomes a faggot and should be beheaded, crucified or hung.

I guess this is why they smell the way they do, not wishing contact with that masculine water and all.
11 posted on 11/27/2013 5:44:16 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: MestaMachine
Is there any word, any word at all, to describe these creatures’ thought processes?

Strict adherence to the Koran.(the word of Allah given to Muhammed through the angels))

Strict interpretation of the Hadiths. (Muhammed's life and sayings according to people who interacted with him.) -Tom

12 posted on 11/27/2013 5:46:50 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Venturer
I guess that goes for baths too. After wearing those Burkas in the heat I would think the stench should keep most adultery down.

In Saudi Arabia the Arabs have TWO huge cooling units for each home. Power is not an issue. MOST families have the money to live in nice homes and cool climate.

Just for the heck of it I tried to see if I could get my house down to 60 degrees. It was 117 degrees outside, with 95% humidity. YES, I did get the house down to 60 degrees. I even put on my leather jacket to revel in it for a few minutes.
Then, I turned the A.C. units back to 70 degrees. It was a HUGE power waste on my part, though, my bad.

However, those few Bedouins who INSIST on living out in the open desert...whoooooeeeee. The men DO stink as much as the women. And, hold your nose, the over-riding smell would be latrine + perfume. Giant ugh for that.

13 posted on 11/27/2013 5:49:19 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: shibumi
Let's extend this logic just a bit further, shall we?
When a man goes swimming, as the word for sea is masculine, when the water touches a man's private parts, he becomes a faggot and should be beheaded, crucified or hung.
I guess this is why they smell the way they do, not wishing contact with that masculine water and all.

Hahaha, wonderful logic.

However, you DO understand, don't you, that LOGIC (what you and I would call LOGIC) does NOT exist in the middle east?

14 posted on 11/27/2013 5:52:56 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: shibumi; cloudmountain

And now we know why obama keeps the heat turned up and why his campaign plane was so stinky.


15 posted on 11/27/2013 5:58:38 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: shibumi

I think all muslim women should go on strike...with a machete. Strike here, strike there, problem solved.


16 posted on 11/27/2013 6:07:40 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: shibumi


17 posted on 11/27/2013 6:09:19 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono
At first I thought I was looking at someone at the Dead Sea with that black mud all over them, but then, naw...


19 posted on 11/27/2013 8:18:28 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: MestaMachine

Yes, we do.


20 posted on 11/28/2013 6:26:43 AM PST by cloudmountain
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