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Cher Savages Thanksgiving: ‘I Don’t’ Celebrate the ‘Beginning of a Great Crime’
Mediaite.com ^ | Nov 28, 2013 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 11/28/2013 12:44:46 PM PST by Kip Russell

Cher told her fans on Wednesday that she does not celebrate Thanksgiving. In fact, she appears to deplore the American holiday, calling in the “beginning of a great crime.” Cher said that the American settlers were guilty of taking land from native Americans who had no concept of property ownership and also intentionally infected them with smallpox.

“You don’t celebrate the holiday I thought?” a fan asked Cher.

“I DON’T,” Cher replied emphatically. She said that, to her, Thanksgiving is a day to see family, eat food together and watch a movie. “Not 2 celebrate the beginning of a GREAT Crime.”

When asked why she believed this by another fan, Cher explained: “Stealing Land, from a ppl, Who believed, Owning Land Was LIke Owning SKY!”

“We gave them Blankets laced w/ Smallpox,” Cher concluded.

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...


TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; antiamericanism; cher; hollywood; hollywoodreds; revisionisthistory; thanksgiving; usefulidiot
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1 posted on 11/28/2013 12:44:46 PM PST by Kip Russell
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To: Kip Russell

Chere doesn’t celebrate her birthdays?


2 posted on 11/28/2013 12:46:32 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Kip Russell; a fool in paradise

3 posted on 11/28/2013 12:47:49 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Kip Russell

You know, just this morning I was wondering, “what does Cher think about Thanksgiving?”

Or not. In fact, she can sit and spin. She got rich in the greatest country in the history of this planet and if she doesn’t like that she can give away her money and shut up.


4 posted on 11/28/2013 12:49:28 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Kip Russell

Why hasn’t Cher given her fortune to the Indians and moved away from this hateful country?


5 posted on 11/28/2013 12:49:57 PM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: Kip Russell
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is Cher aware that we gave the American Indians the "wheel" ?

and that Lincoln outlawed slavery by one Indian tribe against another ?

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6 posted on 11/28/2013 12:50:04 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: Kip Russell
Cher has always been impressive. FWIW, back in the 1960s, my mom didn't agree with any of the new attitudes going on. But that Sonny and Cher show? She loved the way Cher didn't take anything from Sonny and never hid or showed embarrassment about her heritage. (or anything else)

She's a native American. Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

7 posted on 11/28/2013 12:50:12 PM PST by grania
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To: Kip Russell

She can always move home to Armenia

Return to fighting with the Turks...


8 posted on 11/28/2013 12:50:29 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Kip Russell

As a gesture of goodwill, I suggest we confiscate and return some land to the Indians (they can use it to build casinos). Let’s begin with Malibu.


9 posted on 11/28/2013 12:50:51 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: grania

Pretty sure Cher’s Armenian, not American Indian.


10 posted on 11/28/2013 12:53:47 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Kip Russell

According to her bio:
“The singer was born Cherilyn Sarkisian. Her Mother, Jackie Jean Crouch is of Cherokee, English and German descent and her father is of Armenian Descent. Her father, John Sarkisian was an Armenian refugee who worked as a truck driver in the US.”

At best she’s 1/16th whatever. At looks, she’s too darn skinny, still.

She’s got no papers, so’s she’s more EURO than America, and also, since her biological father was “an Armenian refugee”, (from what?), I doubt he was a legal immigrant, as well. That makes HER AN ANCHORBABY.

She has foreknowledge of a ‘great crime’, i.e., her show biz career.


11 posted on 11/28/2013 12:54:29 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Still Thinking
Pretty sure Cher’s Armenian, not American Indian.

From Wikipedia:

Her father, John Sarkisian, was an Armenian truck driver with drug and gambling problems, and her mother, Jackie Jean Crouch, was an occasional model and bit-part actress with Irish, English, German, and Cherokee ancestry.

12 posted on 11/28/2013 12:55:27 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell

I am so sorry I ever watched her show or bought her records.


13 posted on 11/28/2013 12:57:18 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Kip Russell
Dear Cher....The Indians had the same rules for land ownership as the world...it's called "conquer".

They did it to their other tribes. It was a Roosevelt who said...If it wasn't for us, they would have killed themselves off.Then WE became their victims. Wyoming...Cherry Valley...

Then they sided with the British.

Cher...Your ignorance is overwhelming.

14 posted on 11/28/2013 12:57:23 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Kip Russell
She does look Injun!


15 posted on 11/28/2013 12:57:25 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Kip Russell

Sod off, you irrelevant hag.


16 posted on 11/28/2013 12:57:51 PM PST by Washi
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To: Kip Russell

GFY Cheryl. You and your amorphodite progeny.


17 posted on 11/28/2013 12:59:31 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kip Russell

Why did anyone ask that old skank?


18 posted on 11/28/2013 12:59:52 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Still Thinking

Just checked on Ask.com. Cher’s mother is Cherokee, American and French. Her father is Armenian. Remembering back,throughout her career she identified with her Indian heritage.


19 posted on 11/28/2013 1:00:06 PM PST by grania
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To: Kip Russell

That is one miserable, unhappy hag.

Go drown in something, Cher.


20 posted on 11/28/2013 1:00:07 PM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Revolting cat!
That's a MAN baby!

Not Cher.

21 posted on 11/28/2013 1:00:19 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority...")
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To: Kip Russell
There aren't very many who listen to her music anymore, why would she think anyone would care any more about her opinions?

Maybe she shoulda spent less time pondering injustice down through the ages and more on being a good parent.

22 posted on 11/28/2013 1:00:23 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Still Thinking; grania
Pretty sure Cher’s Armenian, not American Indian.

From Wikipedia:

Cher's High School Picture

Cher was born Cherilyn Sarkisian in El Centro, California, on May 20, 1946. Her father, John Sarkisian, was an Armenian truck driver with drug and gambling problems, and her mother, Jackie Jean Crouch, was an occasional model and bit-part actress with Irish, English, German, and Cherokee ancestry.

23 posted on 11/28/2013 1:00:31 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

My bad. CORRECTION: He does look Injun!


24 posted on 11/28/2013 1:01:25 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: grania
Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

Yeah, it was all unicorns and rainbows for native Americans before the white scourge arrived.

It's not like they raped, killed, tortured, and ate each other before we got here or anything.

25 posted on 11/28/2013 1:01:28 PM PST by Washi
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To: Kip Russell

You shall know them by their works. ‘Nuff said.


26 posted on 11/28/2013 1:01:36 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Jeff Chandler

Cher is a disgusting individual. Period.


27 posted on 11/28/2013 1:02:24 PM PST by whitedog57 ( Cy)
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To: grania

She’s Armenian.


28 posted on 11/28/2013 1:02:32 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Kip Russell
This is mom:

Unless the Cherokees were a Teutonic tribe, I think she's about as Indian as Elizabeth Warren.

29 posted on 11/28/2013 1:02:37 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Amazing what they can do with Bondo and Spackle, and a coat of paint.


30 posted on 11/28/2013 1:02:49 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Kip Russell

Does the distinguised historian Cher think the European settlement of North America is the only instance of peoples moving around the world? That’s actually been the history of every part of the world until nations were formed and immigration laws established and enforced, or not enforced.

She’s an ignoramus trying to sound PC and compassionate.


31 posted on 11/28/2013 1:03:21 PM PST by Will88
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To: skeeter
There aren't very many who listen to her music anymore,

Her entire fanbase consists of fags.

32 posted on 11/28/2013 1:03:26 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Washi

I guess the Turks didn’t get all of her “tribe.”


33 posted on 11/28/2013 1:03:52 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Kip Russell

34 posted on 11/28/2013 1:04:50 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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...native Americans who had no concept of property ownership...

Some did some didn't. Cher should read some Allan W. Eckert and get back to us on who was more brutal. It's a tough call.

35 posted on 11/28/2013 1:05:39 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Kip Russell

Does she have wide cheek bones?


36 posted on 11/28/2013 1:06:35 PM PST by Mark (If CON is the opposite of PRO, what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: Revolting cat!

If you’re troubled and you can’t relax
Close your eyes and think of this
If the rumors floating in your head all turn to facts
Close your eyes and think of this

Armenia, city in the sky
Armenia, city in the sky

If you ever want to lose some time
Just take off, there’s no risk
If you ever want to disappear
Just take off, and think of this

Armenia, city in the sky
Armenia, city in the sky

The sky is glass, the sea is brown
And everyone is upside-down

Armenia, city in the sky
Armenia, city in the sky

Freak out!
Freak out!

-From “The Who Sell Out”


37 posted on 11/28/2013 1:07:09 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: grania
She's a native American. Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

She's only a small part Indian. I wonder why she never talks about her majority European heritage.

The Indians weren't saintly. They were stealing each others' land well before we arrived on the scene.

Now many of them live a life of prosperity unimagined before because of the Europeans who settled here and established freedom under the Constitution.

38 posted on 11/28/2013 1:07:18 PM PST by what's up
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To: Kip Russell

She doesn’t mind the criminals giving her their money though. That makes her a whore.


39 posted on 11/28/2013 1:07:51 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: dfwgator
Miss Armenia 2012


40 posted on 11/28/2013 1:08:32 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Kip Russell

I don’t think she’s a native American.


41 posted on 11/28/2013 1:09:00 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Kip Russell

But don’t question her patriotism!


42 posted on 11/28/2013 1:10:26 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Kip Russell

Cher lives on hundreds of acres of stolen land.

She refuses to give her land to the natives.


43 posted on 11/28/2013 1:10:48 PM PST by NoLibZone (The bad news: Hillary Clinton will be the next President. The Good news: Our principles are intact.)
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To: Kip Russell

Four of my grandchildren are of Cherokee descent. They are not exploiting their ancestry in ant way.
That story about our giving the Indians blankets contaminated with smallpox has shown up so often researchers literally cannot pin down it’s true origin. It is said to predate the French and Indian wars, which might just mean the idea was French. It is, without question, America’s earliest urban legend.


44 posted on 11/28/2013 1:10:49 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Gen.Blather

The primary motivation for a Liberal is to:

1) Do what conservatives don’t do
2) Don’t do what conservatives do

They don’t come up with anything on their own. All they know to do is rebel.


45 posted on 11/28/2013 1:10:53 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: grania
She's a native American. Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

Even if Europeans had never come to North America, the idyllic aboriginal lifestyle of the Native Americans was doomed.

It may have taken another hundred years, but eventually, internal wars or invasion by other foreign populations would have forced change upon them - almost none of it good.

I'm about a third Native American myself, and my birth certificate says that I'm negro, but I don't sit and ponder the worst aspects of this culture and its history on every national holiday. In fact, I've led a pretty good life, compared to what it might have been, had my white ancestors never set foot upon this continent.

46 posted on 11/28/2013 1:11:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kip Russell

Cher looks like her face was mangled in a car accident..luckily by the way she’s going, she already has one foot in the grave. I feel bad for Chastity, no wonder she turned out the way she did, Sonny is turning over in his grave, repeatedly


47 posted on 11/28/2013 1:11:59 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Kip Russell

The native americans were mistreated but not anymore. Amends were made. I nor my ancestors had any involvement in any abuses.

Nevertheless, I don’t like people like Cher lecturing me on past misdeeds, by this country or any other. The world is full of misdeeds and wrongs.

Cher is a red diaper doper baby.


48 posted on 11/28/2013 1:13:07 PM PST by bkopto
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To: bkopto
The native americans were mistreated but not anymore.

Of course there is this...


49 posted on 11/28/2013 1:14:25 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: grania

She did that song “Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves,” sympathizing with the plight of “half-breeds.” But I suspect that she was considered “hot” back in her school days, and that the “half-breed” thing worked for her, not against her. It certainly didn’t prevent her from becoming rich. Actually, maybe that explains her present posturing - guilt about being rich.


50 posted on 11/28/2013 1:14:43 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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