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Archaeologists looking for Stonehenge origins 'are digging in wrong place'
Guardian (UK) ^ | Wednesday, November 20, 2013 | Steven Morris

Posted on 11/28/2013 5:42:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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New research suggests stones came from Carn Goedog in Pembrokeshire – almost a mile from site of excavations

New research suggests stones came from Carn Goedog in Pembrokeshire – almost a mile from site of excavations

1 posted on 11/28/2013 5:42:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

2 posted on 11/28/2013 5:43:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I sure don’t want to sound like Hillary but what difference does it make?


3 posted on 11/28/2013 5:47:02 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought they bought the stones at Home Depot and paid extra to have them delivered and assembled at the site. May have been Lowes.


4 posted on 11/28/2013 5:52:37 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have been to Stonehenge and moving those stones even a mile without heavy equipment was quite a feat!


5 posted on 11/28/2013 5:52:57 PM PST by Ditter
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To: yarddog; SunkenCiv
what difference does it make

we have assumed control

6 posted on 11/28/2013 5:54:56 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SunkenCiv
SPOTTED DOLERITES AND CARN GOEDOG

Stonehenge and the Ice Age How much do we know about Stonehenge? Less than we think. And what has Stonehenge got to do with the Ice Age? More than we might think. This blog is mostly devoted to the problems of where the Stonehenge bluestones came from, and how they got from their source areas to the monument. Now and then I will muse on related Stonehenge topics which have an Ice Age dimension...

7 posted on 11/28/2013 6:00:05 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

and i have andean dreams


8 posted on 11/28/2013 6:01:25 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: yarddog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5fsqYctXgM


9 posted on 11/28/2013 6:06:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: bigheadfred

I have Andean candy, right here, so there.


10 posted on 11/28/2013 6:07:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Bluestones, I guess it isn’t a modern problem.


11 posted on 11/28/2013 6:08:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Ditter

And this is just the bluestones quarry, not the really big ones. :’)


12 posted on 11/28/2013 6:12:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks, nice pic find as always!


13 posted on 11/28/2013 6:13:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

harrumphfry you Bogart Sierra ya later Madre


14 posted on 11/28/2013 6:20:56 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SunkenCiv
Bluestones...

LOLOLOLOL

15 posted on 11/28/2013 6:22:52 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SunkenCiv

Rustoleum stone paint in a rainbow of colors.


16 posted on 11/28/2013 6:25:20 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Dolerites found on the hill of Carn Goedog


17 posted on 11/28/2013 6:26:46 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: bigheadfred; Conspiracy Guy

http://www.hark.com/clips/qmgxlwzhtk-digging-wrong


18 posted on 11/28/2013 6:27:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Archaeologists looking for Stonehenge origins ‘are digging in wrong place’”

Or, like a girl once said to me: “That’s not it!”


19 posted on 11/28/2013 6:29:25 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Is that clip from Raiders of the Lost Ark?


20 posted on 11/28/2013 6:34:25 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: SunkenCiv
you just hit a new high in sunken

apropos of nothing...


21 posted on 11/28/2013 6:35:11 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SunkenCiv
BRIAN JOHN wrote:

Thursday, 8 October 2009

Now the geologists join the fray

This is a major development, with two senior geologists presenting their evidence in print. The article is in the new edition of British Archaeology, dated 9th October. Needless to say, I feel very chuffed, and don't feel quite as lonely as I did yesterday!

Rob Ixer and Richard Bevins have studied thousands of rock specimens from recent excavations at Stonehenge. They conclude that many bluestones came not from Pembrokeshire, but from a far wider area, perhaps north Wales (Snowdonia, the Llyn Peninsula and Anglesey), or even beyond. The well-known spotted dolerite is a Preseli rock, they say – but the likely source was not Carnmenyn (where archaeologists have recently claimed to have found quarries) but nearby Carngoedog.

The photo above is of Carngoedog -- identified quite a long time ago as the most likely source of the majority of the spotted dolerites, but of course studiously ignored by Profs Darvill and Wainwright and most of the other key archaeologists working in the UK.

22 posted on 11/28/2013 6:50:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Those people in Wales sure do spell words funny.


23 posted on 11/28/2013 6:54:04 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: SunkenCiv

Is it at all possible the stones were moved across ice? Or that they were moved by ice? Have they ruled that out?


24 posted on 11/28/2013 7:14:18 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Everyone appears to be overlooking all the dirt at that site that was not there when they selected the stones. They must have used judgment when selecting the stone.
25 posted on 11/28/2013 7:21:10 PM PST by Domangart
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To: SunkenCiv

............One of the many huge puzzles remains how the bluestone from Wales travelled 190 miles to the heart of south-west England...............

“Now researchers are claiming that in fact the Stonehenge bluestones actually came from Carn Goedog – almost a mile away”

OK, so now, one of the many puzzles remains how the bluestones travelled 189 miles to the heart of south-west England!!!


26 posted on 11/28/2013 7:29:58 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: yarddog; Fred Nerks; SunkenCiv
Those people in Wales sure do spell words funny.

Truly.

we oft wonder just how victorious that rock is Carnahan

just kidding

we already no

arrows black out all the light

27 posted on 11/28/2013 7:41:42 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s a mighty tall corral there pardner. They must have had some high horses.


28 posted on 11/28/2013 8:16:10 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: IYAS9YAS

http://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/spotted-dolerites-and-carn-goedog.html

Stonehenge and the Ice Age
How much do we know about Stonehenge? Less than we think. And what has Stonehenge got to do with the Ice Age? More than we might think. This blog is mostly devoted to the problems of where the Stonehenge bluestones came from, and how they got from their source areas to the monument. Now and then I will muse on related Stonehenge topics which have an Ice Age dimension...


29 posted on 11/28/2013 8:20:21 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: blueunicorn6; SunkenCiv

thats either rubbing it in or a knead to know

lest ye be cu`

and that kills me

Happy Thanksgiving blue

stop touching that

STFU Obiwan


30 posted on 11/28/2013 8:26:17 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Noob1999

31 posted on 11/28/2013 8:37:47 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Some seriously nice postings.

Bookmark.

Thanks Fred.


32 posted on 11/28/2013 8:44:17 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Yeah, those things look like hernias waiting to happen.


33 posted on 11/28/2013 8:56:53 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

I had Lowes put one in my truck. Then I had to buy a new truck.


34 posted on 11/28/2013 9:00:20 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: bigheadfred
Stonehenge Periglacial Stripes


35 posted on 11/28/2013 9:17:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: yarddog
The photo above is of Carngoedog


36 posted on 11/28/2013 9:17:28 PM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: bigheadfred

Happy Thanksgiving to you, too.


37 posted on 11/28/2013 9:23:10 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: bigheadfred
Endlessly fascinating:

...MPP cut trenches clear across the Avenue with strange results – there’s evidence of grooves in the chalk, running all the way to the bend, and parallel ridges down the sides. It all looks artificial, but apparently it’s all natural periglacial action.

Source

38 posted on 11/28/2013 9:37:33 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: blueunicorn6

High Horses, probably Old And In The Way and acquainted with the Stones.


39 posted on 11/29/2013 3:56:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: bigheadfred

LOL


40 posted on 11/29/2013 3:56:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Where’s the “I’m not saying it was aliens” guy?


41 posted on 11/29/2013 4:02:56 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Ditter
Just an update for you both:

The Road in the Forground no longer exists.

Shock ,horror!
42 posted on 11/29/2013 4:31:44 AM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: IYAS9YAS

If the climate had been cold enough, that might work, but alas, it wasn’t. There’s been a fairly steady drumbeat by a few that all the stones got to the site by glacial movements, IOW, they were just strewn around the general area, then 10000 years later someone came by and thought, how neat, let’s shape them just so and pile them up. :’)


43 posted on 11/29/2013 6:16:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Fresh Wind

It’s only a matter of time.


44 posted on 11/29/2013 6:46:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: moose07
You are going to have to ‘splain your shock and horror to me. ???
45 posted on 11/29/2013 6:48:37 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Just me being Daft, that road was used by me on a monthly basis, now the trip is two miles longer.
English Heitage have done a great job with the reorganisation of the site.
Access is now from a mile further north at a new visitor center.
Will be going down for a look-see in the next week or so, would you like a review?


46 posted on 11/29/2013 6:59:31 AM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: moose07

It has been over 50 years since I was there. It was August of 1963. I expect that a lot has changed, everything except the stones themselves. There was no visitor center, no fence or gate, just a small road. The area around the stones was mowed and well cared for but there was no one there except the 3 of us. It was quite an experience and one I will never forget.


47 posted on 11/29/2013 7:17:00 AM PST by Ditter
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To: moose07

Yes I would love a review! thanks so much!


48 posted on 11/29/2013 7:17:56 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I hope to visit England someday, and Stonehenge is definitely on the list. With my list of sites that I must see, we will need to stay there about 6 months. :)


49 posted on 11/29/2013 3:46:46 PM PST by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Bigg Red

You are right, there is so much to see in England. Research it yourself before you go, I let someone else plan the trip and we saw what she wanted to see. :)


50 posted on 11/29/2013 6:13:20 PM PST by Ditter
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