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Serving life for a slice of pizza
Deutsche Welle ^ | 11/29/2013 | Antje Passenheim

Posted on 11/29/2013 11:24:37 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: nickcarraway

“How many times to you vote for your imperial lord Obama?”

Two times less than you did apparently. You have a soft spot for repeat felons, I don’t


81 posted on 11/30/2013 4:13:37 PM PST by Figment
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To: a fool in paradise

So you wanna pay for their incarceration for the rest of their life - I would rather charge them or their parents for the cost of materials and oversight and then make them all do the job - far more cost efficient, constructive and has the benefit of the whole community seeing the lesson and not wanting to end up doing the same!


82 posted on 11/30/2013 11:35:42 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Crusher138
I'm not sure what you are driving at, in response to me.

Judges who didn't give appropriate sentences are terrible. But we found out that there are actually no substitutes for having good judges. Because mandatory minimums and three strikes don't always work perfectly.

I've seen people get more prison time for simply possessing high capacity magazines than multiple counts of pedophilia. Should someone be jailed for pretending a chicken mcnugget is a gun, because some "zero tolerance" system says that they should?

Can you honestly tell me that having a firearm magazine that the government doesn't like is worst than pedophilia?

People don't spend life in prison for murder or child molestation. So, do I think it's fair that someone should be punished more severely for stealing a piece of pizza? No, I don't. Our justice system demands the punishment fit the crime. And people that don't agree with that, don't like our justice system.

83 posted on 11/30/2013 11:50:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Figment
I don't have a soft spot for felons. But I don't have a soft spot for tyrannical government, like you do.

People who simply own what the government calls high capacity magazine a felony. So you are okay with them getting a longer sentence than a murderer or a pedophile? Because that happens? A person should get a longer sentence for IRS crimes than murder? Our system is based on the punishment fitting the crime. In my view, stealing a slice of pizza is not as bad as murder. Why you do is a mystery to me. The government considered protesting abortion clinics a very serious RICO crime. Even today, their are laws that make certain nonviolent protests of abortion clinics a crime. You really believe that is a worse crime than rape or murder?

By the way, from your response I take it, if the government made being a Christian or being a conservative a felony, you would be okay with it? Or you are soft on felons?

84 posted on 11/30/2013 11:50:50 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Figment

Don’t do the crime(s), if you can’t do the time.


85 posted on 11/30/2013 11:52:45 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: nickcarraway

Do you really believe the story posted? Stealing a slice of pizza isn’t a felony. The 3 strikes law is 3 felony convictions. If you want to take the side of those folks, you have more in common with Holder than you do with conservatives. Three felony convictions, you’re out, doesn’t conflict with the constitution. Don’t put words or thoughts about what is criminal in my mouth or writings, you’re showing your liberal roots


86 posted on 12/01/2013 12:08:05 AM PST by Figment
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To: melsec

You can either spend YEARS cleaning up after repeat offender vandals (copper wire thieves who do thousands of dollars of damage in a night to get maybe $100 or some new “artist” who has been encouraged by the NY Times, Vice Magazine, MTV, Museum of Modern Art, etc.) night after night after night after night after night or you can be done with it.

Lock the turds up and throw away the key. It isn’t a phase and it isn’t a wave of activity by hundreds. A handful of habitual repeat offenders. Lock them up.


87 posted on 12/01/2013 8:11:43 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

Here in Australia we actually have a database of tags/graffiti - anyone can take a picture and it be filed with the Police - when the offender is finally caught they can face prosecution for each offense as their tag is their ID. So here long term taggers - especially once over 18 - if caught can do a fair stretch in the jug as their damage cause can easily be in the tens of thousands of dollars - Having a database has made a remarkable difference in the amount of graffiti.

Underage offenders may spend some time doing public service - like cleaning off graffiti or parks and gardens.

As I work in Security and tend to be reporting this sort of stuff I would confidently say that since the recording of tags the Grafitti rate would have more than halved and I think I am being very conservative there!


88 posted on 12/01/2013 2:16:27 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: nickcarraway

Do you really think this is about stealing a piece of pizza?

That conjures up images of a little kid sneaking up to a counter and swiping a slice while the manager’s back was turned.

As I have read, the guy assaulted a minor and took his pizza. Totally different thing. That’s like saying a guy went to jail for a parking ticket he got while robbing a bank.


89 posted on 12/02/2013 9:37:29 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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