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In God we trust, maybe, but not each other
Associated Press ^ | Nov. 30, 2013 11:26 AM ET | Connie Cass

Posted on 11/30/2013 9:44:22 AM PST by Olog-hai

You can take our word for it. Americans don’t trust each other anymore.

We’re not talking about the loss of faith in big institutions such as the government, the church or Wall Street, which fluctuates with events. For four decades, a gut-level ingredient of democracy—trust in the other fellow—has been quietly draining away.

These days, only one third of Americans say most people can be trusted. Half felt that way in 1972, when the General Social Survey first asked the question. …

An AP-GfK poll conducted last month found that Americans are suspicious of each other in everyday encounters. Less than one third expressed a lot of trust in clerks who swipe their credit cards, drivers on the road, or people they meet when traveling. …

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1 posted on 11/30/2013 9:44:22 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Well surprise surprise.
After decades for pitting men against women; black against white; rich against poor; culture against culture; they have finally noticed that Civil Society is less civil.
Throw in Multiculturalism and the removal of God from the Public Square; it’s amazing we have anything is common at all.


2 posted on 11/30/2013 9:52:52 AM PST by CoastWatcher
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To: Olog-hai

Why wouldn’t we trust people? What with all the tolerance gestapo, identity thieves, craigslist kidnappers, Sharkeishas, date rapists, fraudsters, SNAP card thugs, political operatives, CPS workers stealing people’s kids from hospitals, pedophiles, leftist nutjobs, terrorist professors, Hamas-linked infiltration groups, environazis, Freedom From Religion lawyers, foreigners wanting to take our guns, foreigners wanting to cut our throats, drugged up teenagers, and general douchebags who live for today and screw everyone else.

People in America today seem like a really trustworthy bunch. No, I’ll keep my magnum within reach of the front door thanks.


3 posted on 11/30/2013 9:58:01 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Olog-hai

They’re just finding that out? They needed a survey?


4 posted on 11/30/2013 9:58:55 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Olog-hai

Is it any surprise there is a lack of trust after 66 million low-lifes voted for Traitorobama and a Demonrat party that supported the murder-by-abortion of 55 million unborn children?


5 posted on 11/30/2013 10:08:51 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Olog-hai
If this had happened during a Republican presidency it would have been ascribed to a "politics of hate and division that was traceable to the policies of President White Guy."

But since that's not possible, the problem is laid at the feat of... "Americans."

I don't know about trusting my neighbors, but I certainly don't trust the Associated Press.

6 posted on 11/30/2013 10:09:40 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Olog-hai

No sane person trusts the government or the press. They deserve no respect.


7 posted on 11/30/2013 10:36:43 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Olog-hai

Hi, I’m Bernie Madoff and you can trust me!


8 posted on 11/30/2013 10:41:03 AM PST by golf lover (goingf)
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To: Olog-hai

Depends on who you have as a god.


9 posted on 11/30/2013 10:41:28 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Olog-hai
In 1972 people were MORE trustworthy. That's WHY we trusted...

We didn't trust because it felt good, we trusted because we weren't getting ripped off by every liar and his power crazed wife (think Clinton)...

In 1972 Hollywood hadn't fully glorified lowlifes - and we were allowed to have standards for our kids without looking like ‘squares’ or ‘teabaggers’... Liberals wanted to be ‘edgy’ - - that only works if they're ‘of the few’... but when everyone’s a lowlife it quits being cool - and the culture becomes course... and dreadful - and people hide from each other. Bowling alone anyone?

This liberal writer thinks if we all became gullible and let liberals rip us off it would be better, he's wrong. Liberals mugged us, we're not walking down that alley again...

We're not a cohesive culture... we don't have shared values. The values of third world cultures play on an equal footing - or better with the help of liberals who hate the American middle class. That's part of the problem.

That's loss. . The truth is our values have changed.. it's why there's not an open return policy in stores anymore. It's why in a few years there won't be any return policy. Everyone's ripping off the system - thinking it's cool... ripping off each other ... lying about our risk... All the things liberals have forced on the culture. One more reason to hate liberals.

10 posted on 11/30/2013 10:46:39 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Olog-hai

If people DID trust in God then they’d be more amicable towards one another too.

Yes there are problems with “God and the public square” but some of them are due to outdated assumptions about WHO has the responsibility to bring God to the public square.

Well now we know we can’t look to our government to do it and that’s good news in a way. It brings us away from a view of government as a priesthood. When the government could plausibly wrap itself in the pages of the bible, we gave it a reverence that it, often, didn’t deserve.

Let a thousand private Christmas lights shine. In the public square as they walk around in it. Then we won’t care so much that city hall didn’t put a manger scene there this December.


11 posted on 11/30/2013 10:47:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

The America of the 1940s and 1950s saw most people believe in the bedrock of the society they had built - marriage, family, schools, government. Only those considered on the outside (communists, descendents of WWII opponents) had our suspicion.

Today, these bedrock elements have been largely destroyed and the communists run our country. When presidents make promises they knew they couldn’t keep, they really have no place to stand when they criticize people who mistrust government.

I think the proliferation of crime television also hurts our trust factor in our fellow man.


12 posted on 11/30/2013 10:49:23 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: GOPJ

Don’t sell all the third world countries short.

Some of them are getting on the spiritual up and up. In the long term that will favor saner economic policies.

But if someone had told you that in a few decades that, say, Ethiopia would have more class than the USA... would you have believed it?


13 posted on 11/30/2013 10:56:17 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: GOPJ

I don’t think people were more trustworthy in 1972. That was the era of Richard J Dailey, Serpico and Watergate, just to name some very high profile corruption. You’re also talking the height of the Weather Underground, the Black Panthers and a few other nuts. Really everything you’re saying is terrible now was just as much if not more so then.

And we’ve never really had a cohesive culture. America is a big country with lots of different setups and climates. City people- country people, Eastern people - Western people, snowbelt people - sunbelt people. All are vastly different groups with different values. And have been for a long time. In the era of 3 TV networks we learned how to pretend America was a mono-culture but that was always a lie. Anybody that think America is (or ever was) a mono-culture needs to explain what BBQ is, what you call a bubbly caffeinated beverage, and what you call a cold cut sandwich on a french foll.


14 posted on 11/30/2013 10:59:27 AM PST by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Recognition of God tended to be far more lukewarm than it had to be. That’s my $0.02 worth of observation. Enthusiasm was not a thing for polite churches to have. That was considered fringe behavior, not worthy of Mr. and Mrs. Average.

I think that now the norms have fallen by the boards, there is now an opportunity for evangelical faith to reappear without those traditional shames. If Mr. and Mrs. Average shout hallelujahs all day long, who’s going to think it so odd any more when America won’t even think it’s odd to have two daddies?


15 posted on 11/30/2013 11:01:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: discostu

God got more lip service back then. You could count on the submarine, hoagie, or grinder eaters, and the pop, soda, or coke drinkers, to all pretty much agree what God was about even if their allegiance to Him was observed more in the breach.


16 posted on 11/30/2013 11:03:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

Its like the old saying,”In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash”!


17 posted on 11/30/2013 11:05:12 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: discostu
I don’t think people were more trustworthy in 1972. That was the era of Richard J Dailey, Serpico and Watergate, just to name some very high profile corruption. You’re also talking the height of the Weather Underground, the Black Panthers and a few other nuts. Really everything you’re saying is terrible now was just as much if not more so then.

Kind of. 1962 would have been a better benchmark. In 1972 people were deathly afraid of rioters, hippies, druggies, hitchhikers, and killers who picked up hitchhikers.

The people who took a survey in 1972 probably would have grown up in a less stressful era, though, and might have kept some of their trustworthy nature over the years.

18 posted on 11/30/2013 11:09:37 AM PST by x
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To: Olog-hai

The media has worked very hard for decades for this very result.


19 posted on 11/30/2013 11:11:46 AM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Maybe just lip service but probably not allegiance and certainly definition. You’d have Catholics and Jews and Baptists and different levels of dedication all the way to lapsed and ex.


20 posted on 11/30/2013 11:13:49 AM PST by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: x

They were probably more in denial, and less addicted to paranoia. One of the interesting side effects of the information age is that no news is local, we get to find out about tons of bad things happening that we never would have before (because it happened 3 states and really isn’t that interesting) and get all worked up over it. Back when news was half an hour of local, half and hour of national and maybe you skimmed the paper you just didn’t find out about as many carjackings and knockouts and faked rude tips.


21 posted on 11/30/2013 11:17:59 AM PST by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: discostu

It still kind of mattered, even in the view of God as mean traffic cop in the sky and if you had a radar detector you could blast by that Smokey with no seeming ill effect. Now people often don’t even believe in a God to disobey.


22 posted on 11/30/2013 11:22:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: discostu
The country was stunned Nixon could have done the things he did... that's what made it a different time. Clinton did worse but most people yawned...

And yeah, baby boomers with their sophomoric ideas were coming of age... but the vast majority of the country in ‘72 was still ‘trustworthy and trusted’ - not like today.

In 1964 the biggest high school problem was ‘spitballs’... Do you know what it is today? That tells the story.

23 posted on 11/30/2013 11:28:02 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Some of them are getting on the spiritual up and up. In the long term that will favor saner economic policies.

That's good news...

24 posted on 11/30/2013 11:33:37 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: GOPJ

Which is funny when you think about it, since many in the country were openly tolerating much more corrupt government on the local and state level. The reason people yawned for Clinton was fatigue, by the time he took office there’d been a bunch of presidential scandals (Watergate really opened a can of worms on that front) a bunch of congressional hearings and it had all really amounted to nothing. The era of presidential scandals had turned into the press crying wolf, still is that way 20 years later.

The vast majority of the country was just like they are now. Actually much worse, there were a lot more neighborhoods that were “off limits” to people of the “wrong” color.

If you think spitballs were the biggest problem in high school in 1964 you are quite simply lying to yourself. Heck they had a broadway about youth gangs stabbing each other in 1961, people knew high school wasn’t the land of milk and honey.


25 posted on 11/30/2013 11:36:45 AM PST by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: discostu
And we’ve never really had a cohesive culture. America is a big country with lots of different setups and climates.

We're just a big enterprise zone. A big frigging mall and no one really knows what's in it.............

26 posted on 11/30/2013 1:05:06 PM PST by varon (Para bellum)
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To: Olog-hai

When half the country views the other half as a piggy bank to be smashed open and looted, naturally there is going to be a modicum of distrust.


27 posted on 12/01/2013 1:11:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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