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Progressive to WHAT?
Vanity ^ | 11/30/2013 | Dick Bachert

Posted on 11/30/2013 10:04:50 AM PST by Dick Bachert

We simply must refuse to allow libtards to continue their nefarious and dangerous practice of hijacking and twisting our language, the most pernicious example of which is their application of the term “progressive” to themselves.

Here's a question for those of you who somehow escaped the government school indoctrination process with your critical thinking skills intact: When these people say “progressive”, to where or to what do they propose to progress?

Among America's founding documents is the Declaration of Independence. Because many of you younger readers may not have been exposed to the Declaration in school (or, worse, were exposed to an altered or redacted version of that document), allow me to remind you of THE key principles upon which the Founders established this nation:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

Read those words until you fully grasp their meaning.

Let me again ask the question: To where or to what do those who call themselves “progressives” propose to progress? How IS IT POSSIBLE to “progress” beyond those beautifully stated and, at that time as today, seldom articulated truths?

Back when a “journalist” respected truth and honesty, the Baltimore journalist Henry Louis Mencken declared “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.”

And, that, my friends is another truth of which we all must be mindful as these so-called “progressives”, by their tendentious torturing and twisting of the language, seek to move us AWAY from our founding principles. Their agenda seeks to take us BACK to some form of the same dictatorial RULE under which nearly all men who walked the earth before those American ideals were set to parchment lived as SLAVES!

If these people wish to wear a label, let it be an honest one. My suggestion would be “REGRESSIVES”.


TOPICS: Education; History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: culture; declaration; freedom; liberals
We WILL NOT go gently into their night!!
1 posted on 11/30/2013 10:04:50 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

New Tagline. Henry Louis Mencken declared “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.”


2 posted on 11/30/2013 10:10:56 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Thanks. Yup, Henry had it right!! Be safe out there!


3 posted on 11/30/2013 10:12:26 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

i have some suggestions but they are all in cursive


4 posted on 11/30/2013 10:14:45 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Dick Bachert

I think progressive means dismantling the founding documents by erosion rather than amending through laws


5 posted on 11/30/2013 10:15:18 AM PST by Marylander
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To: Dick Bachert

>>Let me again ask the question: To where or to what do those who call themselves “progressives” propose to progress?

They claim to progress the human race beyond the greed of capitalism, beyond the need for the biological imperative of families, and beyond the superstition of religion.


6 posted on 11/30/2013 10:15:29 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

IOW, they want to progress us back to the stone age.


7 posted on 11/30/2013 10:19:30 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Dick Bachert

“Progressive” — as in cancer is a progressive disease — is quite descriptive of the Left.


8 posted on 11/30/2013 10:22:56 AM PST by glennaro
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To: Dick Bachert

There’s no shortage of idiots and intellectually lazy individuals to exploit. And everyone wonders how hitler, lenin, stalin, and mao managed to pull off all of the atrocities that they did.


9 posted on 11/30/2013 10:26:29 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Dick Bachert

One problem with the word “progressive” is it has meant very different things to different people at different times. For example, to Teddy Roosevelt and V.I. Lenin.

Roosevelt used progressive in the common sense that Americans used it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It meant supporting progress in industry and the economy, science and technology. Building railroads, dams, cities etc. out of wilderness. Politically it wasn’t about replacing our system, but improving it’s flaws within the system.

To Marxists, the future was supposedly known and inevitable; mankind was supposed to be forced by inexorable historic forces from tribalism, to feudalism, to capitalism, to socialism and finally to communism. Any people who aided that “progression” were by definition “progressive”. The same people could be either “progressive” or the opposite (reactionary) depending on how far along the society was. The left may not use all the Marxist verbiage but that’s still the gist of what they mean.


10 posted on 11/30/2013 10:32:03 AM PST by Hugin ( More firepower!)
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To: Dick Bachert
". . .the most pernicious example of which is their application of the term “progressive” to themselves."

They are more aptly to be described as "progressive regressives."

Our Constitution embodied a UNIQUE IDEA. Nothing like it had ever been done before. The power of the idea was in the recognition that people's rights are granted directly by the Creator - not by the state - and that the people, then, and only then, grant rights to government. The concept is so simple, yet so very fundamental and far-reaching.

America's founders embraced a previously unheard-of political philosophy which held that people are "...endowed BY THEIR CREATOR with certain unalienable rights...."

This was the statement of guiding principle for the new nation, and, as such, had to be translated into a concrete charter for government. The Constitution of The United States of America became that charter.

What so-called "progressives" are attempting to accomplish, and have been working at over several decades, is to turn that idea upside down, putting themselves in charge of a "government-over-people" government structure, and erasing the idea of the "Creator" altogether.

11 posted on 11/30/2013 10:44:44 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Dick Bachert

Good Question.

Sort of like “Hope and Change” and “fundamentally transform”

TO WHAT?????

[we know: it’s socialism]


12 posted on 11/30/2013 10:46:10 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like you constitution, you can keep it. Period.)
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To: Dick Bachert

“Progressive” = Communist.


13 posted on 11/30/2013 10:48:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: glennaro
“Progressive” — as in cancer is a progressive disease — is quite descriptive of the Left.

You, sir.

Please accept a hearty cyber-handshake from me.

(I would love to link to the March 23, 2008 "Bloom County" comic strip, in which Opus the Penguin encounters a cancer cell. In that strip the cancer represented out-of-control "growth.")

14 posted on 11/30/2013 10:50:23 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Dick Bachert

I’ve been making a similar point about the term “progressive” for quite a while. The Left thinks it means “making progress towards equality and justice,” but what it means in practice is progressive authoritarianism and progressive loss of liberty. All of these news stories which some see as silly - about school administrators suspending students for having toy guns, or drawing a picture of a gun, or banning home-made lunches, or cities banning sodas or smoking in one’s own home, or even more serious things like having cameras at every stoplight in town, the government restricting political speech and spying on the populace and using the IRS to harass political opponents - those things are what progressivism IS.


15 posted on 11/30/2013 11:16:20 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Cyber Liberty

>>IOW, they want to progress us back to the stone age.

Not really. That’s our biggest mistake when we think of Progressives. We assume that they want to destroy or hurt. They honestly believe that they know a “better way” so when they are proselytizing to new converts, they come off sounding very authentic.

They make the argument that what we currently have is not working, and there are many who believe that. Perception is reality for most people, and the Progs do a better job of shaping people’s perception than we do.


16 posted on 11/30/2013 11:27:36 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Dick Bachert
If these people wish to wear a label, let it be an honest one. My suggestion would be “REGRESSIVES”.

That's what I've been calling them ever since they claimed to be progressive. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

17 posted on 11/30/2013 11:41:25 AM PST by cotton
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To: Bryanw92
In the "stone age," there was no capitalism, families were communal (as opposed to nuclear), and there was no religion as a civilizing influence. IOW, a "Progressive's" dream.

I was just going from what you said above. There is more to the story, indeed.

Of course, everything you added is true as well. They may not want to "destroy and hurt" (they say) but we know that destruction and misery will be the result, there's plenty of historical proof. It's easy for a commie to convince people what we have "is not working." Just conflate wants and needs, and ask them if they have everything they could ever want. If the answer is no, then there you have it: what we have "is not working" because there are people left in need.

We have to make the distinction between "want" and "need." If the LIVs don't get it, we have to teach them. There is no other way because there is no end of free stuff the progs can promise when they aren't required to deliver. They'll always be able to top us with empty promises, so we have to prove the promises are empty. That's hard to do, it requires analytical thought. If we just wait for their promises to fail, it will be too late because the functional society will have been destroyed.

We're seeing that now with the health care system. Great damage has already been done to the insurance industry. It is already going to be a major task repairing it, just to get it back to where it was.

My old tagline applies: "It's easier to believe the liar if he's telling you things you want to believe."

18 posted on 11/30/2013 11:56:09 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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>> If the LIVs don’t get it, we have to teach them.

That is exactly my point. I’m not defending the Progs. But, they do a better job of teaching the LIVs what they want them to know than we do.

We used to be a nation where a man with a high school diploma could earn a nice living for his family by working in a factory for his entire life. What does the Conservative movement have to offer a man with a 100 IQ and a high school diploma? We tell him that he doesn’t deserve a good living and that he doesn’t even have the right to organize. We tell him that his job has to move overseas because we need to raise the stock value a couple dollars. We call him an LIV, but the Prog calls him a valuable human being. Of course, the Prog is lying, but who is telling him what he needs to hear?


19 posted on 11/30/2013 12:07:21 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Dick Bachert
Wealth is equivalent to power. Golden Rule: he who has the gold can buy the power and he who has the power can steal the wealth.

In a free society people accumulate wealth by making or doing something worthwhile to others. There are those who would like wealth but are not willing to make or do useful things. So they set about inventing a morality to shame others into giving up some of their wealth. The progressives have made a science out of their Lust for Power." They understand organization. They understand how to move the lazy and perverse to act as a mob to demand their "just" slice of the pie. Left unchecked they will destroy our society.

The remedy is to organized, promote the virtues of capitalism and personal freedom, and expose the progressives for their greed where they steal through the use of power. This will take leadership where a charismatic person can withstand the shit that progressives throw. It will require individuals to share some time supporting these leaders. It's not going to be easy, but it is necessary.

20 posted on 11/30/2013 12:11:12 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Bryanw92
Of course, the Prog is lying, but who is telling him what he needs to hear?

Nobody in the GOPe. It's up to us, and we have to kick the GOPe out of office if we are to have a chance. They counter us with more lies every time we try to set things right, calling us "Hobbits" and "Wacko-Birds." They undermine our candidates in the Generals after we successfully defeat their clowns in the Primaries. IOW, they prefer Rats to Tea Partiers!

The current crop of Pubbies in DeeCee spend tons more money and effort trashing our side than they do fighting the progs. This shit has got to stop.

(Sorry if I got any spittle on the inside of your computer screen. I'm POed. Click Here!)

21 posted on 11/30/2013 12:25:21 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Dick Bachert

Progressive is a lot like the doublespeak of 1984. For example; The Ministry of Truth. Progressive means ‘regressive.’ The results of Progressive policies make that very clear.


22 posted on 11/30/2013 12:29:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: loveliberty2
One small nit pick...

...and only then, grant rights? authority to government.

Limited authority. Rights are unalienable, meaning that they cannot be taken or given away. We can't give rights to government any more than government can give us rights. Government is an artifice created by man and by artifice we grant it authority in order to serve our ends and when it ceases to serve us we can withdraw its authority.

23 posted on 11/30/2013 1:10:46 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Yep. I call them socialists now. To hell with politeness.


24 posted on 11/30/2013 3:45:01 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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To: Dick Bachert

Nice post. “Progressing” to what ? That’s the question they can’t answer.


25 posted on 12/01/2013 7:18:10 AM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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