Skip to comments.The Death of Star Wars
Posted on 12/02/2013 3:34:04 PM PST by EveningStar
It must be said: In October 2012, Star Wars fans felt a great disturbance in the Force. Disney no need to explain why this is gobsmackingly horrible announced that it was going to insult the collective intelligence, sensibility, and good taste of everyone in America and the English-speaking world by welcoming George Lucas to the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and making another Star Wars trilogy. So obviously I tried out for it.
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I didn’t see how they could ruin it more than episode 6.
But then I saw 1, 2, and 3, and the various clone wars foolishness.
Perhaps Disney can improve things.
Ping for later
Disney spent $4.5 billion on a risk that Star Wars will have the same appeal thirty years later.
I thought it was a bad bet from the start.
Disney can’t possibly screw up Star Wars more than Lucas did with “The Phantom Menace”.
When I first watched that movie the entire row in front of me got up and walked out 20 minutes into the film. It was one of the scariest flights I’ve ever been on!
jar jar was no more silly than the ewoks.
that’s funny, I thought it was the deal of the century.
I’m probably extra-picky, but I only really, really liked the first two releases - Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. Return of the Jedi was good, but I didn’t think it was great as the first two. The modern “prequels” or whatever they call them hold zero interest for me.
For George Lucas.
Not in the Clone Wars series. The bad guys were the "Separatists".
I recall reading many years ago that Lucas saw Star Wars as a trilogy trilogy, or 9 movies. So he sold the last three concepts for a pile of cash and cut & run. Good gig if you can get it.
Not that any of his ideas were original anyway. Imperial officers looking like the command staff of Rommel’s HQ. Stormtroopers jumping out of Hueys in a hot LZ. B-17s fighting off swarms of Focke-Wulfs. His movies were nothing more than special effects versions of a grab bag of combat film.
Very amusing review, although it gets a bit tired half way through. Worth reading the first half.
Heck...Lucas screwed up Star Wars with ROTJ
I thought he was worse, though only a little bit.
It took me a moment, I must admit....
I always thought I was the only person who thought “Return of the Jedi” was a clear step down from the first two.
The Ewoks were basically a stupid idea. Clearly something about them appealed to leftists. Also showing them eating humans was disgusting.
There must have been a delayed reaction to the 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special.
“When I first watched that movie the entire row in front of me got up and walked out 20 minutes into the film. It was one of the scariest flights Ive ever been on!”
You just made me laugh on an otherwise miserable day. Thank you :-)!
“The Ewoks were basically a stupid idea.”
Lucas’ original concept was that the final battle with the Empire would take place on the Wookie planet, but he decided that Chewbacca was too technically advanced to make his point of primitive guerrilla warfare overcoming an advanced opponent. Ewok is basically Wookie with the syllables reversed.
Do you think is a Coincidence that the BEST Star Wars Move (The Empire Strikes Back) is the one that has the LEAST amount of Involvement from George Lucas?
Because I don't.
Yes absolutely. His original vision was to be 3 trilogies.
First the overthrow of the Empire.
Second, the Clone Wars and the origination of Darth Vader.
Third, the further adventures of Luke Skywalker and his friends.
Where he chickened out was on the last three. Even he saw there was no good way to do it and make money so he lied and said he only ever envisioned 6 films and bailed.
What an amazing thing that he was able to sell the rights to the final episodes...that he says never existed.
Star Wars purist? For crying out loud, Betsy! Motion pictures are made for profit. The studios have no such “purity”, they, like all the investors and hired hands, want to make their dollar as does anyone in business.
In before pictures of a naked Princess Leia on a wrecking ball.
They should just go all out. New cartoons....
“Baby Star Wars”... Luke, Leah, Han as little tykes and their adventures together at day care.
“Tiny Droids” a child version of R2D2 and C3PO on their own silly quests.
“Tales from Yoda”... a cartoon series with Yoda narrating a variety of tales from across the Star Wars universe.
Keyboard destruction barely averted
Star Wars should never have been made a series. When I saw Star Wars I in 1977, I thought at the time that it was the best movie ever made. None of the sequels came even close to measuring up to it.
When the series resumed in the 1990’s, I only saw the first film. It was so inferior to the original—and even the two sequels—that I refused to see any of the others.
Yes, and it seems to me the plot was biblical. Set in the past, Darth Vader as Satan, the Force as the power of prayer, The Dark Side as Satan's evil power.
I'm not saying Lucas is pro-Christian, just that he took the bible and turned it into a sci-fi secular story.
The “finger in my throat” narcissism of this series is risculous.
The original Star Wars (sickeningly retconned into A New Hope) was a hodge-podge of material pilfered from classic science fiction of the 50's and 60's and the whole "Samurais in Space" concept stolen from Akira Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress. It happened in the right time and place, and ILM was genuinely technically innovative.
The magnum opus of the set is clearly The Empire Strikes Back, a noir film with which Lucas had virtually nothing to do. [His nasty divorce, thank God, kept him from meaningfully participating.]
So we get a menacing build-up to set the stage for what was originally supposed to be the intro to a second trilogy, (of three, one of which was to be a prequel.) We're presented with an overwhelmingly powerful, evil, supernatural enemy with the military might of an entire galaxy at its back and it's done in in a few hours by ...
... fuzzballs ...
WTF?! How can you do anything but shake your head over the rank stupidity and ultimate disrespect this shows your audience?
And for something completely different.
Tonight on TCM.
The Hudsucker Proxy
Fantastic movie airing at 8pm est.
Co-Written, Produced and directed by the Coen Brothers.
The Coen Brothers also put out: Fargo, The Big Lebowski, O Brother where art Thou, No Country for old Men, Burn After Reading and True Grit.
Must watch !!!
I find it sad that Lucas made his dreck before John Carter of Mars came out on film.
That was some original dreck!
Empire Strikes Back will always have a special place in my heart. I first saw it in German.
Darth Vader speaking German was the way it should be.
Das Imperium Schlaght Zuruck.
The only good Star Wars movie was “Spaceballs.”
DIE, JAR JAR, DIE!
I thought Fargo was really funny until I found out they had simply lied when they said it was a true story. That was almost completely what made it entertaining, thinking it was true.
Heck...Lucas screwed up Star Wars with ROTJ
50 Reasons Why Return of the Jedi Sucks...
And even MORE reasons to hate the prequels...
Watched it again yesterday on SyFy. Was impressed with the lighting on the characters in some of the scenes. Looked up on IMDB to see who the director was. Irvin Kershner had an interesting CV http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0449984/?ref_=tt_ov_dr.
His handling of Carrie Fischer is particularly notable. He got a deeper performance out of her in ESB than in any of the other films, and he made her natural beauty (she was a modestly good looker back in the day) really shine.
I thought the bad guys were mocking Chinese people with those accents.
But the BIGGEST thing wrong was the change of the Force from a spiritual phenomena to a biological one. Having Anakin be the product of immaculate conception was enormously offensive.
Almost as bad as Star Trek TNG.
Return of the Jedi looks and feels like a Muppet movie.
Yeah, that was the biggest disgrace. Instead of a group of people honing their skill through study and meditation, now they’re a bunch of genetic elitist snobs.
Over half of the last three movies was just people sitting and talking or walking and talking. It was like watching a soap opera with random CGI action sprinkled in.
Definitely! Kershner was completely responsible for the artistic imprint on that film. He also changed up the script (which Lucas absolutely hated, ergo, he heavy-handedly took control of ROTJ, and with no voices of editing advice [like the first], it became what it did.)
A stroke of genius, that. It really makes the story work. I think the Coen brothers are doing some of the finest filmmaking... ever.
ep 6 began the downfall. ewoks suck democrats.
the last three sucked even more. the acting was incredibly bad. stonish, monotonic, impassive line delivery. look at the first two films. the actors were,ah,... ahem.....ACTING!!!!!! they were three-dimensional characters.
ewoks - lighten the movie to keep from scaring kiddies and making it to ‘dark’.